On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Alexander Schatten wrote:
again my suggestion: If anyone of the experts would help me solving my
problems as described in the previous mail, I would try to put together
in installation and setup tutorial. what else could I do?
Did you know there are several
Dave Pawson writes:
I also believe that the startup is
90% of the work... Picking up the correct version of every single thing
(docbook, stylesheets and toolchain processing tools) is where we loose a
lot of people
That's why I liked the idea of 'skipping' a few versions. Say one
update
Kevin Conder wrote:
Did you know there are several installation tutorials out there?
For Windows, there's this page:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/ntsgml.html
well, this is *SGML* for NT.
I am not interested (as most) in SGML, as I am using
A tool chain which works is XML to TEX trough Jade and DSSL
and TEX to PDF trough PDFTEX with PDFJADETEX.
For HTML, Jade with DSSL also works well.
There are other options, but those are what I can talk about because
I use them.
Yes, Yes, I KNOW it doesn't work as well as we would like, but it
At 23:43 14/01/2002 -0800, Carlos Araya wrote:
Have you read Markus H's stuff. Its always worked for me?
No, what's the URL?
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/ntsgml.html
Well worth some time.
Regards DaveP
At 17:07 15/01/2002 +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote:
Kevin Conder wrote:
Did you know there are several installation tutorials out there?
For Windows, there's this page:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/ntsgml.html
well, this is *SGML* for
At 10:15 15/01/2002 -0500, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Dave Pawson writes:
That's why I liked the idea of 'skipping' a few versions. Say one
update per year, at Norm's choosing?
Surely you're kidding?
How are you going to explain to the crowd, you still have to wait 10
months for these bug
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 16:07, Alexander Schatten wrote:
well, this is *SGML* for NT.
I am not interested (as most) in SGML, as I am using XML heavily in
*many* projects; so to say it again: I am (and many other are) intested
in an XML/XSL to HTML/PDF solution.
Well, for practical
Juan,
OK, now I am REALLY confused!
First I thought that DSSSL was a dying, gasping on the
beach dead fish, kind of standard since it isn't well supported,
etc. And XML/XSLM was the new and better way to go.
Now you throw in TEX stuff!!! Wowsers, is there any
other path you could recommend to
At 19:36 15/01/2002 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Juan,
OK, now I am REALLY confused!
Read Markus post on this list.
If you want straightforward html and print output
from docbook xml,
select fop and docbook stuff.
Follow his instructions carefully and it will work. Honest.
HTH DaveP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Juan,
OK, now I am REALLY confused!
First I thought that DSSSL was a dying, gasping on the
beach dead fish, kind of standard since it isn't well supported,
etc. And XML/XSLM was the new and better way to go.
Now you throw in TEX stuff!!! Wowsers, is there any
Tim,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Juan,
OK, now I am REALLY confused!
First I thought that DSSSL was a dying, gasping on the
beach dead fish, kind of standard since it isn't well supported,
etc. And XML/XSLM was the new and better way to go.
Now you throw in TEX stuff!!!
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 08:57:44PM +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote:
This complete framework is SO complex to setup, I have never seen
something like this before, especially when there is no documentation
that explains the necessary steps in one document. currently I feel like
playing a
Bob Stayton wrote:
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 08:57:44PM +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote:
This complete framework is SO complex to setup, I have never seen
something like this before, especially when there is no documentation
that explains the necessary steps in one document. currently I feel
On 01/14/02 8:02, Alexander Schatten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well, I do understand this. however: unfortunately it seems to me the
same like in other (open source) projects: microsoft was once blamed for
their setup program: only dummies would use this, bla bla. now even
linux software
Julien Letessier wrote:
le 14/01/02 17:02, Alexander Schatten écrivit:
the same here and in other similar projects: what I feel angry about is,
that many of these projects suffer on two things:
-- setup and installation
-- documentation
(snip)
It's in the works... I've created a
Did you have a look at:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/ntsgml.html
This little document guides you through the setup of an SGML and XML
editing and processing system. DocBook (both SGML and XML) is used as
the main DTD example. The instructions include Emacs, PSGML,
At 21:11 14/01/2002 +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote:
the meaning is this: off course: provide current updates off all
subprojects for the specialists. but PLEASE provide ONE solution, that
does is all for the normal user. this one must not be updated that often
and also needs not to support
Again: I did some extensive testing of different xsl stylesheet
versions, my conclusions considering PDF production are (html works
fine, btw):
always using apache fop 0.20.2:
docbook-xsl-1.47-experimental and docbook-xsl-1.48
does not work at all: [java] [ERROR]: property 'master-reference'
Julien Letessier wrote:
He Ho.
Already debated on the docbook-apps list.
I don't blame you -- I asked too.
some things were discussed, unfortunately nothing (I could find) that
solved the relevant problems.
The problem is that Fop is not XSL-1.0 conformant. Norman wrote a little
patch
Please clarify the tools...
1/13/02 9:56:00 AM, Alexander Schatten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
my.xml -- my.fo using fo/docbook.xsl
I can do this using xsltproc.
my.fo -- my.fop using fo/fo-patch-for-fop.xsl (included w/1.48)
What tool do I use for this?
my.fop -- my.pdf using fop.
Hello Tim,
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please clarify the tools...
1/13/02 9:56:00 AM, Alexander Schatten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
my.fo -- my.fop using fo/fo-patch-for-fop.xsl (included w/1.48)
What tool do I use for this?
E.g. xsltproc or any other xslt engine: .xsl
This might help:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/200111/msg00182.html
DaveP, should that one be a faq?
David
-Original Message-
From: Alexander Schatten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Again: Apache FOP, Docbook: Features /
Versions,complete
le 13/01/02 21:00, Steffen Maier écrivit:
Uhm, sorry, haven't tried FOP myself yet. Maybe one of the experts out
there can comment on this? I just wonder why there are class files, isn't
FOP packaged as a jar file that even specifies its main-class in its
manifest, so one doesn't have to
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