Re: DOCBOOK: URI/URL markup in DocBook

2002-08-20 Thread Michael Smith

Elliotte Rusty Harold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Currently the enumerated systemitem classes include the following
 network related info:

[...]

 I have encountered a frequent need for one more:
 
 url
 
 Note that this is not necessarily a clickable link like the ulink
 element. Rather it is a literal URL printed in text, such as
 Sun's home page is at
 systemitem class=urlhttp://www.sun.com//systemitem.
 
 I have also encountered a need to distinguish different kinds of
 non-resolvable URLs, specifically:
 
 XML namespace URIs
 SAX feature names
 SAX property names
 JAXP feature names
 SOAP Actions
 RDDL purposes
 RDDL natures

 Doubtless there are others, and more are likely to be invented in the
 future. For the moment, I've been using the
 class attribute to separate these. However, I think the time has come
 to add at least a url role to systemitem, or possibly skip that step
 completely and go straight to a url element.
 
 Questions:
 
 1. Do we really need a uri element? or separate url, uri, urn elements?
 
 2. Should this element have some sort of purpose or role attribute that
 identifies the type of the URI? For example,
 
 uri class=url role=namespacehttp://www.w3.org/TR/2001/XInclude/uri
 uri 
 class=urnurn:publicid:%2B:IDN+example.org:DTD+XML+Bookmarks+1.0:EN:XML/uri

During the next monthly DocBook TC telcon, the TC will discuss adding
URL/URN markup to the DocBook DTD.

So, can others on the list please comment on their needs/expectations
regarding URN/URL markup?

Specifically:

  * Would adding 'url' and 'urn' to the list of enumerated values for
the Systemitem element be a satisfactory solution?

or

  * Do you have a need for markup that would allow you to distinguish
between different types of URLs and URNs?

  * If you do have such a need, what kind of URLs would you need to
distinguish from one another?

Elliotte: Please post any further comments/clarifications you might have
regarding this.

Thanks,

  --Mike





Re: DOCBOOK: URI/URL markup in DocBook

2002-08-20 Thread Dave Pawson

At 04:13 20/08/2002, Michael Smith wrote:

During the next monthly DocBook TC telcon, the TC will discuss adding
URL/URN markup to the DocBook DTD.

So, can others on the list please comment on their needs/expectations
regarding URN/URL markup?

Specifically:

  * Would adding 'url' and 'urn' to the list of enumerated values for
the Systemitem element be a satisfactory solution?

No. Too similar.


or

  * Do you have a need for markup that would allow you to distinguish
between different types of URLs and URNs?

No. Again, indistinguishable from a presenation aspect.
Suggest its a CSS task for presentation?

Regards DaveP