Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Forums Proposal
Le 07/10/2012 14:26, Mark Stanton a écrit : In the discussions with your members section, my two penneth worth is that, for me, I use forums for when I have a problem that I need to solve *now*. Mailing lists are general reading and background. The upshot is I would read a forum much less often than a mailing list. 2c well spent? Think so. Like Mark, I think there are two uses of internet questionning: 1. One-shot questions John Doe often has a question s-he wants to solve right now. In this POV, mailing lists are often bothering the casual questionner: necessity to subscribe, overflooded mailbox because of a lack of knowledge of what a mailing list is, difficulty to unsubscribe, etc. 2. Long-term discussions A mailing list brings the messages directly to the personnal mailer, where they can be read and kept for as long as necessary for future reference. Moreover, the mailer software allows for sorting and organizing the threads. To jump on Mark's shoulders (if he doesn't mind ;), and WRT this *documentation* list, I see two uses: -- the casual questions is there a doc about Base? which resorts to a forum. The question at hand being: do we need a forum for that alone? IOW, would a general purpose forum not fit the bill? Side note: shouldn't this be clearly answered on the web pages? -- the long run discussions about a doc in progress, which, IMO, better belongs to a mailing list such as this one. So, as you guessed, my opinion *about documentation* is to keep the list as it is now and not have a forum at all. My 2 euro-cents. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Forums Proposal
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net wrote: Le 07/10/2012 14:26, Mark Stanton a écrit : In the discussions with your members section, my two penneth worth is that, for me, I use forums for when I have a problem that I need to solve *now*. Mailing lists are general reading and background. The upshot is I would read a forum much less often than a mailing list. 2c well spent? Think so. Like Mark, I think there are two uses of internet questionning: 1. One-shot questions John Doe often has a question s-he wants to solve right now. In this POV, mailing lists are often bothering the casual questionner: necessity to subscribe, overflooded mailbox because of a lack of knowledge of what a mailing list is, difficulty to unsubscribe, etc. 2. Long-term discussions A mailing list brings the messages directly to the personnal mailer, where they can be read and kept for as long as necessary for future reference. Moreover, the mailer software allows for sorting and organizing the threads. To jump on Mark's shoulders (if he doesn't mind ;), and WRT this *documentation* list, I see two uses: -- the casual questions is there a doc about Base? which resorts to a forum. The question at hand being: do we need a forum for that alone? IOW, would a general purpose forum not fit the bill? Side note: shouldn't this be clearly answered on the web pages? -- the long run discussions about a doc in progress, which, IMO, better belongs to a mailing list such as this one. So, as you guessed, my opinion *about documentation* is to keep the list as it is now and not have a forum at all. My 2 euro-cents. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux For people working on producing documentation, I think a forum often works better for discussions about a doc being planned or in progress, because people (particularly newcomers to the group) can come into the discussion and more easily find earlier comments on a forum thread than by checking the archives of the mailing list (where discussions are more likely to get broken into multiple threads). But for immediate announcements like this doc is ready for reviewing or this doc is now published or Ping Jean: x it's handy to have the mailing list. I also want to use the blog for this purpose (among others) and get a LiboDocs Twitter account (and perhaps a Facebook page or G+ page) to reach other people. No one would need to subscribe to more than one medium in order to receive announcements, but the number of people with write access to the blog and Twitter account would be more limited and thus they would not be a primary means of communication... more a chance to reach people who might not otherwise see the info. Yes, I realise people use different tools to track and sort discussions, and in fact I often find a forum extremely difficult to use because my only access may be a slow phone connection (with small display screen), sometimes for days or weeks at a time. So, personally, I prefer a mailing list but only for that reason. My vote at this point would be to have both for Docs and try them out... see how it works in practice for the majority of the group. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Chap 2 Drawing Basic Shapes
Hi :) I think the wiki is in a state of flux at the moment so it might misbehave a little at odd moments. If it's being petty and blocking you one time you might find it works better later, or the next day or so. Don't worry about it. People can reach it on ODFAuthors so it's fine for now. Sorry about the scare but an anti-virus scan is unlikely to be a bad idea. I did one a few months ago too. Hmmm, dunno why i am apologising as it's not me that's messing with the wiki, just sorry you had troubles. Regards from Tom :) From: PeeWee psaut...@gmail.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2012, 13:11 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Chap 2 Drawing Basic Shapes Hello I uploaded a corrected version of Chap 2 Drawing Basic Shapes to the Published LO3.5 folder on the ODF Authors website. I have corrected cross references and added a cross reference for adding and formatting text. Also changed the last section in this chapter about adding text to objects. I have tried to upload the file to the Document Foundation Wiki, but keep getting the following error: The file contains a virus! Details: scan failed (code 2) I checked the file and my computer and do not have a virus. Regards PeterS -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Draw-Chap-2-Drawing-Basic-Shapes-tp4011799.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
