Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide, Chapter 9

2013-11-17 Thread Hazel Russman
On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:09:38 +1000
Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 3) I am still looking for one or more people to help with updating the
 Base Handbook, which was translated from German to English. In this
 case, the work involves translating new material that was added to the
 German handbook for v4.1. If you are interested in helping with this
 work, I can provide more info  point you to the relevant files.

Which is more urgent, the Base Handbook or the Calc Wiki? I can do
either but not both.

Hazel

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide, Chapter 9

2013-11-17 Thread Preston Bernstein
Jean,

I would also like to know what needs to be done. I'm ready to help in any
way.

Best,
Preston


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Hazel Russman
hazeldeb...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:09:38 +1000
 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

  3) I am still looking for one or more people to help with updating the
  Base Handbook, which was translated from German to English. In this
  case, the work involves translating new material that was added to the
  German handbook for v4.1. If you are interested in helping with this
  work, I can provide more info  point you to the relevant files.

 Which is more urgent, the Base Handbook or the Calc Wiki? I can do
 either but not both.

 Hazel

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide, Chapter 9

2013-11-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
If i had a vote i would vote for the wiki.  There is a previous
iteration of the Handbook but the wiki doesn't have a previous version
at all yet.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 17 November 2013 12:26, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:09:38 +1000
 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 3) I am still looking for one or more people to help with updating the
 Base Handbook, which was translated from German to English. In this
 case, the work involves translating new material that was added to the
 German handbook for v4.1. If you are interested in helping with this
 work, I can provide more info  point you to the relevant files.

 Which is more urgent, the Base Handbook or the Calc Wiki? I can do
 either but not both.

 Hazel

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide, Chapter 9

2013-11-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It might be worth sending a mail to the Users Mailing List to recruit
new people for the specific task.  A general shout-out grabs some
people but others react better when they hear about a specific task
that is likely to have an end-date (and then stick around afterwards
for just one more)
Regards from
Tom :)

On 17 November 2013 16:41, Preston Bernstein prestonbernst...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jean,

 I would also like to know what needs to be done. I'm ready to help in any
 way.

 Best,
 Preston


 On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Hazel Russman
 hazeldeb...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:09:38 +1000
 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

  3) I am still looking for one or more people to help with updating the
  Base Handbook, which was translated from German to English. In this
  case, the work involves translating new material that was added to the
  German handbook for v4.1. If you are interested in helping with this
  work, I can provide more info  point you to the relevant files.

 Which is more urgent, the Base Handbook or the Calc Wiki? I can do
 either but not both.

 Hazel

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[libreoffice-documentation] Upcoming Bugzilla Migration

2013-11-17 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hullo Documentarians!

As some of you already know, QA is migrating the project's bugtracking
activities to a separate instance of Bugzilla:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/LibreOffice_Bugzilla_Proposal

All user accounts, data, etc... will be transfered-over, and we expect
that our users won't notice a thing, aside from the name and url
change.

In preparation, I'm working on updating all of our internal docs and
resources to point to the new domain 'bugs.libreoffice.org', and
replace references to 'FDO' and 'Freedesktop.org Bugzilla' with more
generic 'Bugzilla' or 'LibreOffice Bugzilla' references. The domain
bugs.libreoffice.org has been pointed at bugs.freedesktop.org,
allowing us to change references today and then have a transparent
switch-over on the day of migration.

I'm not sure how many FDO references we have in our documentation, but
I'd appreciate it if the Docs Team could update these references or
point me in the right direction to make these updates myself.

Thanks,
--R

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Upcoming Bugzilla Migration

2013-11-17 Thread Jean Weber
Offhand I can't think of any mentions in the user guides, but I'll
check. I'm sure there are some mentions on the Docs wiki somewhere, or
in resources like the Contributors Guide. I'll check the latter, and
hopefully others can track down any mentions on the wiki -- or might
recall or be able to find any mentions in other user docs.

--Jean


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Robinson Tryon
bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hullo Documentarians!

 As some of you already know, QA is migrating the project's bugtracking
 activities to a separate instance of Bugzilla:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/LibreOffice_Bugzilla_Proposal

 All user accounts, data, etc... will be transfered-over, and we expect
 that our users won't notice a thing, aside from the name and url
 change.

 In preparation, I'm working on updating all of our internal docs and
 resources to point to the new domain 'bugs.libreoffice.org', and
 replace references to 'FDO' and 'Freedesktop.org Bugzilla' with more
 generic 'Bugzilla' or 'LibreOffice Bugzilla' references. The domain
 bugs.libreoffice.org has been pointed at bugs.freedesktop.org,
 allowing us to change references today and then have a transparent
 switch-over on the day of migration.

 I'm not sure how many FDO references we have in our documentation, but
 I'd appreciate it if the Docs Team could update these references or
 point me in the right direction to make these updates myself.

 Thanks,
 --R

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide, Chapter 9

2013-11-17 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Hazel Russman
hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:09:38 +1000
 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 3) I am still looking for one or more people to help with updating the
 Base Handbook, which was translated from German to English. In this
 case, the work involves translating new material that was added to the
 German handbook for v4.1. If you are interested in helping with this
 work, I can provide more info  point you to the relevant files.

 Which is more urgent, the Base Handbook or the Calc Wiki? I can do
 either but not both.

 Hazel

Hard to choose; IMO both are high priority, so it's really up to you.
Finishing the Calc FAQs is certainly a good thing to do.

More general comment to other team members: there are other French
FAQs and tutorials to be translated in English, if you feel
comfortable doing that. Please coordinate on this list, so you don't
duplicate effort by other team members, including in the French group.
Original French FAQs are here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/FR/FAQ
English FAQs are here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide, Chapter 9

2013-11-17 Thread Jean Weber
Preston,
Can you do translations from either French or German? Otherwise, what
interests you from the list in my earlier note in this thread? Some
items on that list can be conveniently broken into smaller tasks that
take less of a time commitment than others.

--Jean

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Preston Bernstein
prestonbernst...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jean,

 I would also like to know what needs to be done. I'm ready to help in any
 way.

 Best,
 Preston

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide, Chapter 9

2013-11-17 Thread Martin Saffron

Hello Jean,

Thanks for the information.  I'm interested in helping write the Base 
guide so would appreciate more information on that.


In the meantime, I will take a look at chapter 5 (Using Graphics) of the 
Calc guide.  If I have any spare time, I will identify and note any 
chapters that will need updating upon release of LO 4.2.


Thanks,

Martin


On 16/11/13 22:09, Jean Weber wrote:

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:37 PM, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:

I have been upgrading the Draw (4.1) and will complete the remaining chapters 
fairly quickly. Then it will be onto the Calc Guide to bring up to 4.1. The 
Calc chapters are being upgraded to 4.0 by other volunteers. I shall then 
upgrade the chapters to 4.1 so that the Calc Guide has the same look and feel 
throughout the guide. After that I will be moving onto the Impress Guide which 
is now at 4.0 to upgrade to 4.1 maybe 4.2. Just have to wait and see.

I think the best bet is to move onto the other LO modules because I think there 
is a shortage of volunteers to upgrade the remaining modules. I am sure Jean 
will advise which is the best to have a go at.


On 16 Nov 2013, at 13:30, Martin Saffron [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] 
ml-node+s969070n4083478...@n3.nabble.com wrote:

I've just taken another look at the publications page
(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications) and
would like advice as to which area I can begin work on.  Is the
objective to bring all guides up to date (4.1.x branch) or are 4.0.x
guides sufficient?

Jean here. General comment to Martin: We've been tending to skip a
point release for Getting Started and the Writer Guide, because we
haven't been able to keep them updated fast enough while at the same
time improving the content, not just updating it. Calc Guide is
something of an orphan and, as you can see, hasn't been updated since
v3.4.

The objective at this point is to finish the Calc Guide to 4.1 and
start updating GS and WG to v4.2. The first beta of LO 4.2 is due out
next week (see Release Plan,
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.2 and the Release
Notes, https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2

So, my suggestions to you are:
1) Go through Chapters 5, 6, 12, 13 of Calc Guide (currently listed as
LO v4.0) to see if anything needs changing for v4.1 -- or if anything
wasn't updated correctly from v3.4 to v 4.0. Also Appendix C hasn't
been updated from v3.4; you could do that. Other chapters have already
been updated to v4.1, but Peter hasn't been through all of them for
look and feel updates. People are working on Ch14 and Appendixes A and
B. I'm really hoping to get that book done by the end of November.

2) Start identifying which chapter of Getting Started and/or other
books will need updating for v4.2. Add info to this page:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks

Also would be useful to go through the existing GS book to see what
else needs updating or improvement. PLEASE NOTE: Most chapters in this
book cover material also included in other books, though topics and
level of detail vary. Therefore, noting necessary updates changes in
chapter lists for other books is very helpful.

3) I am still looking for one or more people to help with updating the
Base Handbook, which was translated from German to English. In this
case, the work involves translating new material that was added to the
German handbook for v4.1. If you are interested in helping with this
work, I can provide more info  point you to the relevant files.

4) Work on Base Guide (different book, written from scratch in
English). If you're interested in that, I'll provide more info. I'm in
the middle of rationalizing chapters of that book following recent
work by Dan Lewis (and earlier work that I've neglected to follow up
on).

--Jean




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Upcoming Bugzilla Migration

2013-11-17 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Offhand I can't think of any mentions in the user guides, but I'll
 check.

Great!

 I'm sure there are some mentions on the Docs wiki somewhere, or

Based on a quick search, I found (and fixed) just a single reference
to bugs.freedesktop.org under the Documentation/ pages on the wiki.

 in resources like the Contributors Guide. I'll check the latter, and
 hopefully others can track down any mentions on the wiki -- or might
 recall or be able to find any mentions in other user docs.

Sounds like a plan.

Cheers,
--R

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