[libreoffice-documentation] Version 4.2 Getting Started Guide, Chapter 1
I have made further edits to MartinS's revisions to Version 4.2 Getting Started Guide, Chapter 1. PeterS is replacing some screenshots to match others in the chapter. We'll let you know when it's done. --Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Version 4.2 Getting Started Guide, Chapter 2
I have edited and added to Martin's updates. Some questions remain for others to address; comments in file. Uploaded here: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/gs4-2-ch2-setting-up-lo/view --Jean On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Martin Saffron wrote: > Hello > > I've uploaded an edited draft of GS4202. The draft can be found here: > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/gs4202-settinguplibreoffice/view > > In this version, I've made the most of the changes that are listed on the > User Guide Tasks page > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks). > > LO4.2 appears to introduce options for finer control over English language > checking. A series of check-boxes can be found under Options/Language > Settings/English Sentence Checking which appear to enable toggling of > particular grammar, punctuation and conversion corrections. On my > installation (LO4.2 beta2 on Windows 8.1) they appear to do nothing at all. > I briefly tested all the options and, with the exception of the 'Extra > Spaces' check-box, they had no effect at all on corrections (both with > free-typing auto-corrections and when the 'Spelling and Grammar' was invoked > from the 'Tools' menu). I wonder if they are currently experimental. As > such, I have been unable to fully complete the draft for GS4202 and have > left space (commented in the draft) for an explanation of these options. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon
Hi Jean, all, short answer. Am 26.01.2014 00:28, schrieb Jean Weber: [...] I, or Klaus-Jürgen or someone, need to add "LibreOffice Documentation Team" to the front cover design for v4.2, at least for the cover provided to Lulu. As no one else except you and me have the original svg, I will do it. And I will present the actual proposal for the new 4.2 covers in the next few days. But this will be another thread. -- Grüße k-j Member of TheDocumentFoundation http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/ http://de.libreoffice.org http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > For distribution through Amazon etc, the front cover of the book must > include the name of the author of the book, and that name must match > the name given in the copyright statement and in the metadata we > provide to Lulu. Ok > I have been listing "LibreOffice Documentation Team" as the author in > the metadata, and I propose to change the copyright statement in each > book to read: > > "This document is Copyright © 2014 by the LibreOffice Documentation > Team. Contributors are listed below. You may distribute or modify it > under the terms of either the GNU General Public License > (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version 3 or later, or the > Creative Commons Attribution License > (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/), version 3.0 or later." Couple of points: 1) I don't believe the "LibreOffice Documentation Team" is a legal entity, so I'm not sure that it can hold copyright (at least not in the US). 2) In general, I believe TDF/LibreOffice does not request copyright assignment, so copyright in contributions to code, wiki pages, documentation, etc.. is all held by the individual contributors, or the company/organization for which they work, if it is a work-for-hire. Here's the text we use in the 'About' box in LibreOffice: "This release was supplied by The Document Foundation. Copyright (c) 2000 - 2014 LibreOffice contributors." Thanks, --R -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon
Hi :) +1 from a lurker. I don't get a vote as i don't contribute to or do any work in the team itself, also i'm not a member of TDF. Also i'm not sure if this is a formal vote or if a "proposal" needs a "seconder" but if it is and if it does then i would if i could. Regards from Tom :) On 25 January 2014 23:28, Jean Weber wrote: > As I mentioned in an earlier note, I have been looking into getting > our user guides sold through Amazon > and other venues, now that Lulu is not charging a fee for this. > > In order for our books to qualify, some minor changes are required to > the files sent to Lulu. These changes do not need to be made to PDFs > we distribute ourselves, but I would recommend we make the changes > there too. > > For distribution through Amazon etc, the front cover of the book must > include the name of the author of the book, and that name must match > the name given in the copyright statement and in the metadata we > provide to Lulu. > > I have been listing "LibreOffice Documentation Team" as the author in > the metadata, and I propose to change the copyright statement in each > book to read: > > "This document is Copyright © 2014 by the LibreOffice Documentation > Team. Contributors are listed below. You may distribute or modify it > under the terms of either the GNU General Public License > (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version 3 or later, or the > Creative Commons Attribution License > (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/), version 3.0 or later." > > I, or Klaus-Jürgen or someone, need to add "LibreOffice Documentation > Team" to the front cover design for v4.2, at least for the cover > provided to Lulu. > > --Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Recent sales of LO user guides
Hi :) Sorry for the extra traffic. I know my emails and ideas have to be rejected without thinking about them so perhaps i should say the opposite of what i mean. Could someone forwards that information to the international translators team, the L10n one? I feel that if they were able to raise sundry funds in a similar way then it might make them more sustainable or more able to reach a wider audience. I also feel that it's worth using the fund to get into places such as iBookstore or Amazon or anything like that, even if there is a reasonable set-up fee or a fee that is a percentage-of-sales. Even if such places make a loss (as long as that loss is not huge and is well under over-all profits) at least it gets us out there into markets that would otherwise be difficult to advertise in. After seeing your documentation there they might investigate further and then purchase/acquire the guides from elsewhere. Any idea why the German Guides are so low? Is the Lulu Store itself only in English? Are the guides incomplete (ie only the Base Handbook available or somethign like that)? Have the German guides only recently been offered through Lulu? Regards from Tom :) On 25 January 2014 23:12, Jean Weber wrote: > Friends of Open Document Inc is the publisher of the printed editions > of our user guides (through Lulu.com) and the custodian of income from > sales of PDFs through the Ubuntu store. I have posted their 6-month > interim accounts (July-Dec 2013) to their website. The page for > LibreOffice Docs is > http://www.friendsofopendocument.com/newsite/?page_id=549 > > A reminder: the purpose of publishing and selling printed copies is > not to raise money, but to provide a service to people who want them. > The purpose of selling PDFs through Ubuntu is to raise awareness of > our user guides. Some guides are also available through the iBookstore > (via Lulu, which produces them from the files we provide for printed > copies). > > I have been looking into getting our user guides sold through Amazon > and other venues. In the past Lulu charged a fee for this, but that > has changed. I hope to be able to get the v4.2 and later books into > those outlets as we produce them. > > --Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon
Hello Jean If the changes get the LO guides out to a wider audience then I have no objections to the wording change for copyright. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@libreoffice.org On 26 Jan 2014, at 12:34, Jean Weber [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: > It's not a formal vote. If someone has an objection to the proposed > copyright wording change, for a good reason, we certainly need to > discuss it and come to an agreement. > > --Jean > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Tom Davies <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Hi :) > > +1 > > from a lurker. > > > > I don't get a vote as i don't contribute to or do any work in the team > > itself, also i'm not a member of TDF. Also i'm not sure if this is a > > formal vote or if a "proposal" needs a "seconder" but if it is and if > > it does then i would if i could. > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > On 25 January 2014 23:28, Jean Weber <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> As I mentioned in an earlier note, I have been looking into getting > >> our user guides sold through Amazon > >> and other venues, now that Lulu is not charging a fee for this. > >> > >> In order for our books to qualify, some minor changes are required to > >> the files sent to Lulu. These changes do not need to be made to PDFs > >> we distribute ourselves, but I would recommend we make the changes > >> there too. > >> > >> For distribution through Amazon etc, the front cover of the book must > >> include the name of the author of the book, and that name must match > >> the name given in the copyright statement and in the metadata we > >> provide to Lulu. > >> > >> I have been listing "LibreOffice Documentation Team" as the author in > >> the metadata, and I propose to change the copyright statement in each > >> book to read: > >> > >> "This document is Copyright © 2014 by the LibreOffice Documentation > >> Team. Contributors are listed below. You may distribute or modify it > >> under the terms of either the GNU General Public License > >> (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version 3 or later, or the > >> Creative Commons Attribution License > >> (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/), version 3.0 or later." > >> > >> I, or Klaus-Jürgen or someone, need to add "LibreOffice Documentation > >> Team" to the front cover design for v4.2, at least for the cover > >> provided to Lulu. > >> > >> --Jean > >> > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden email] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Changes-to-front-cover-and-copyright-notice-required-for-user-guides-to-go-on-Amazon-tp4093956p4093992.html > To start a new topic under Documentation, email > ml-node+s969070n1645240...@n3.nabble.com > To unsubscribe from Documentation, click here. > NAML - Peter Schofield psaut...@libreoffice.org -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Changes-to-front-cover-and-copyright-notice-required-for-user-guides-to-go-on-Amazon-tp4093956p4093993.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon
It's not a formal vote. If someone has an objection to the proposed copyright wording change, for a good reason, we certainly need to discuss it and come to an agreement. --Jean On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > +1 > from a lurker. > > I don't get a vote as i don't contribute to or do any work in the team > itself, also i'm not a member of TDF. Also i'm not sure if this is a > formal vote or if a "proposal" needs a "seconder" but if it is and if > it does then i would if i could. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > On 25 January 2014 23:28, Jean Weber wrote: >> As I mentioned in an earlier note, I have been looking into getting >> our user guides sold through Amazon >> and other venues, now that Lulu is not charging a fee for this. >> >> In order for our books to qualify, some minor changes are required to >> the files sent to Lulu. These changes do not need to be made to PDFs >> we distribute ourselves, but I would recommend we make the changes >> there too. >> >> For distribution through Amazon etc, the front cover of the book must >> include the name of the author of the book, and that name must match >> the name given in the copyright statement and in the metadata we >> provide to Lulu. >> >> I have been listing "LibreOffice Documentation Team" as the author in >> the metadata, and I propose to change the copyright statement in each >> book to read: >> >> "This document is Copyright © 2014 by the LibreOffice Documentation >> Team. Contributors are listed below. You may distribute or modify it >> under the terms of either the GNU General Public License >> (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version 3 or later, or the >> Creative Commons Attribution License >> (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/), version 3.0 or later." >> >> I, or Klaus-Jürgen or someone, need to add "LibreOffice Documentation >> Team" to the front cover design for v4.2, at least for the cover >> provided to Lulu. >> >> --Jean >> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Recent sales of LO user guides
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > > I also feel that it's worth using the fund to get into places such as > iBookstore or Amazon or anything like that, even if there is a > reasonable set-up fee or a fee that is a percentage-of-sales. Even if > such places make a loss (as long as that loss is not huge and is well > under over-all profits) at least it gets us out there into markets > that would otherwise be difficult to advertise in. After seeing your > documentation there they might investigate further and then > purchase/acquire the guides from elsewhere. Money is not an issue about getting into those markets. Someone with the time to do the work quickly, and some changes to the files (see my other note on the topic), are the main issues. Also there is a delay in getting books into those markets (outside our control), and with our rapid publishing schedule many items have been superceded before they get there. > Any idea why the German Guides are so low? Is the Lulu Store itself > only in English? Are the guides incomplete (ie only the Base Handbook > available or somethign like that)? Have the German guides only > recently been offered through Lulu? The only guide currently provided through Friends of OpenDocument on Lulu is the Base Handbuch, because that is the only one the German team have asked me to put there. --Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] When taking screenshots for LO user guides
A reminder: when taking screenshots for use in LibreOffice user guides, please use the US-English version of the software, NOT the UK-English version, for consistency with the text, which is to be written in US English. --Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
