Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Macro Code Colorizer

[Dan Lewis]

I agree with not having the macro created character styles added to the 
template. To me, the template should only contain the styles whether 
paragraph or character styles that are need in every chapter created 
using the template. When special styles are needed as in the case of 
chapters describing macros, they should be added to just that chapter.


Dan

On 6/5/20 15:51, Drew Jensen wrote:

back to how this started, IIRC;

Those character styles used by Macro Formatter extension are added to
the odt file when the extension is run on the author's or editor's
machine. Given that I would not include them in the Guide/Team
template.

I would add a section in the template text content about coloring
example code and point to
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/extensions/show/code-colorizer-formatter
as the proper tool for the job. Let them know that after installing
the extension to open the configuration dialog and change the
paragraph entry from '_OooTextBody' to 'Text Body' (it will not
function until it is changed to an existing paragraph style).

There is no reason to have those character styles in a document that
has no example code, for one thing, and for another maybe the
extension is updated at some point, no reason to add an expectation as
to what those style names must be.

Drew

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 10:11 AM Drew Jensen  wrote:

Howdy,

Following up from the meeting yesterday.

So, I was wrong about the extension using direct formatting with
regards to the extension 'Macro Formatter 4.1.1'. Using a fresh
document it did add a set of character styles and the uses those in
the formatting and colorizing process. (The only note to make here is
that it needs to have the default configuration or _OOoTextBody
changed for the paragraph style - I choose the standard Text Body and
it worked fine)

As for a second extension, 'Code Highlighter 1.6', this python
extension does not run properly in the latest versions of LO so I
could not answer the question of how it handles the document changes.

Best wishes,

Drew


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[libreoffice-documentation] Question: Recording Changes vs Track Changes

[Kevin Berry]

I have a couple of questions about recording vs tracking changes.
What is the difference between going to File > Properties > Security >
Record Changes versus Edit > Track Changes > Record ?

Also, when I am on macOS, there is a check mark in the Edit menu that
clearly indicates when Edit > Track Changes > Record is active, whereas I
dont see that at all in Windows- havent tried it in Linux.

Also, another thing I noticed is that there is View > Track Changes, which
I have noticed is what makes the colored strike-through, which shows me the
changes that have been made.

So my question is: What is the difference between "Track Changes" and
"Record Changes", and what is "Record Changes" actually doing?

Gordon Bates
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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Re[2]: Calc Error Codes Rev 1

[Kevin Berry]

Thank you for catching that mistake. Yes, it is a 532, not 503.

I didnt see the =ERRORTYPE(cell-address) in the chapter- maybe I just
overlooked it. Is that something that might be able to be added in there?

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On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:46 PM Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> Hi Gordon,
>
> To find the error code, use the ERRORTYPE function.
>
> For example, if the cell containing the erroneous formula is B2, then put
> the formula =ERRORTYPE(B2) in some other blank cell. Hope that helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Kevin Berry" 
> To: "Steve Fanning" 
> Cc: "documentation list" 
> Sent: 05/06/2020 19:52:27
> Subject: Re: Calc Error Codes Rev 1
>
> Yeah, the #DIV/0 might actually be a 532, huh? How do I make Calc show me
> the error Code, not just the error Message?
>
> What made me add that in there was that the explanation of that error is "
>  *Division by 0*, or another calculation that results in an overflow of
> the defined value range (*a value too big or too small*)."
> Dividing by zero is the "too big" part of that.
>
> I attached the spreadsheet I was using to replicate some of these errors.
> The part that is relevant to this email is A2:E4
>
> Gordon Bates
> berrykevin...@gmaill.com
> github.com/jdoes
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:07 AM Steve Fanning 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gordon,
>>
>> Thanks for that. I have accepted most of the changes and placed the
>> updated file in the Draft folder, ready for second review.
>>
>> I did not accept one of the changes (in Table 2) because I'm not sure
>> that it is correct. As far as I was aware, error 503 gives a #NUM! error in
>> the cell, not a #DIV/0! error (unless you've come across a
>> counterexample?).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Kevin Berry" 
>> To: "Stephen Fanning" ; "documentation list"
>> 
>> Sent: 04/06/2020 20:34:51
>> Subject: Calc Error Codes Rev 1
>>
>> I have completed review1 of the error codes section, and placed it in the
>> feedback folder.
>>
>> Gordon Bates
>> berrykevin...@gmaill.com
>> github.com/jdoes
>>
>>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Template 7.x update

[Olivier Hallot]

HI Peter
Changes applied to template
Regards
Olivier

Em 05/06/2020 04:04, Peter Schofield escreveu:
> Hello
> 
> The bullet and numbered lists need a slight change only.
> 
> Space below paragraphs should be 0.15cm for all bullet and numbered points. 
> This spacing below paragraphs will make any bullet or number points appear 
> closer together making it easier to recognise a list.
> 
> Character used for bullet point in List 2 should be changed to an EN dash. 
> This will make more noticeable.
> 
> Numbering is fine using numeric for Number 1 and Alph for Number 2.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Schofield
> psaut...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5 Jun 2020, at 02:22, Olivier Hallot  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Team
>> I have updated the template following the meeting this last Thursday
>> June 4th.
>>
>> I admit the bullet and numbering lists is not yet perfect, It has
>> challenged me for some hours and included chasing a bug that messed with
>> list bullet position vs paragraph indentation.
>>
>> file is template7a_OH.ott in the /Contributor Resource/ folder.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> -- 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Template 7.x update

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello Peter
I think you hit the same bug as me.

Em 05/06/2020 07:45, Peter Schofield escreveu:
> Hello Olivier
> 
> When I paste text into a bullet or numbered para, the para moves one indent 
> to the right, which is annoying.
> My solution is to click on the bullet or number icon on the Formatting 
> toolbar. The para moves back to normal position for that level of bullet or 
> number point.
> This could be a bug, but I have not yet tested this in a blank Writer 
> document that does not use the LO template.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Schofield
> psaut...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5 Jun 2020, at 02:22, Olivier Hallot  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Team
>> I have updated the template following the meeting this last Thursday
>> June 4th.
>>
>> I admit the bullet and numbering lists is not yet perfect, It has
>> challenged me for some hours and included chasing a bug that messed with
>> list bullet position vs paragraph indentation.
>>
>> file is template7a_OH.ott in the /Contributor Resource/ folder.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> -- 
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>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
>> Comunidade LibreOffice
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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Macro Code Colorizer

[Drew Jensen]

back to how this started, IIRC;

Those character styles used by Macro Formatter extension are added to
the odt file when the extension is run on the author's or editor's
machine. Given that I would not include them in the Guide/Team
template.

I would add a section in the template text content about coloring
example code and point to
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/extensions/show/code-colorizer-formatter
as the proper tool for the job. Let them know that after installing
the extension to open the configuration dialog and change the
paragraph entry from '_OooTextBody' to 'Text Body' (it will not
function until it is changed to an existing paragraph style).

There is no reason to have those character styles in a document that
has no example code, for one thing, and for another maybe the
extension is updated at some point, no reason to add an expectation as
to what those style names must be.

Drew

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 10:11 AM Drew Jensen  wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> Following up from the meeting yesterday.
>
> So, I was wrong about the extension using direct formatting with
> regards to the extension 'Macro Formatter 4.1.1'. Using a fresh
> document it did add a set of character styles and the uses those in
> the formatting and colorizing process. (The only note to make here is
> that it needs to have the default configuration or _OOoTextBody
> changed for the paragraph style - I choose the standard Text Body and
> it worked fine)
>
> As for a second extension, 'Code Highlighter 1.6', this python
> extension does not run properly in the latest versions of LO so I
> could not answer the question of how it handles the document changes.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Drew

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re[2]: Calc Error Codes Rev 1

[Steve Fanning]

Hi Gordon,

To find the error code, use the ERRORTYPE function.

For example, if the cell containing the erroneous formula is B2, then 
put the formula =ERRORTYPE(B2) in some other blank cell. Hope that 
helps.


Regards,

Steve


-- Original Message --
From: "Kevin Berry" 
To: "Steve Fanning" 
Cc: "documentation list" 
Sent: 05/06/2020 19:52:27
Subject: Re: Calc Error Codes Rev 1

Yeah, the #DIV/0 might actually be a 532, huh? How do I make Calc show 
me the error Code, not just the error Message?


What made me add that in there was that the explanation of that error 
is " Division by 0, or another calculation that results in an overflow 
of the defined value range (a value too big or too small)."

Dividing by zero is the "too big" part of that.

I attached the spreadsheet I was using to replicate some of these 
errors. The part that is relevant to this email is A2:E4


Gordon Bates
berrykevin...@gmaill.com
github.com/jdoes


On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:07 AM Steve Fanning 
 wrote:

Hi Gordon,

Thanks for that. I have accepted most of the changes and placed the 
updated file in the Draft folder, ready for second review.


I did not accept one of the changes (in Table 2) because I'm not sure 
that it is correct. As far as I was aware, error 503 gives a #NUM! 
error in the cell, not a #DIV/0! error (unless you've come across a  
counterexample?).


Regards,

Steve



-- Original Message --
From: "Kevin Berry" 
To: "Stephen Fanning" ; "documentation 
list" 

Sent: 04/06/2020 20:34:51
Subject: Calc Error Codes Rev 1

I have completed review1 of the error codes section, and placed it in 
the feedback folder.


Gordon Bates
berrykevin...@gmaill.com
github.com/jdoes

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice print

[Prem Nath]

Superb. Thanks.

On 05-Jun-2020, at 10:39 PM, Caroline Carlisle Tidwell  
wrote:


I also noticed a feature in reviewing for curriculum teaching all of the Adobe 
products and working on a project that there is a built in ISO19005 tag in Draw 
for any regulatory requirements that you might have in your particular country. 
This feature is a secret hidden gem of sorts as I have never seen something so 
rare and beautiful in the Word Suite.



On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:29 PM Alan B 
mailto:abo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
LibreOffice Draw has a menu option File>Export as PDF..., so yes it can.

Also, if you're using Windows 10 it has it's own built-in PDF printer.
Select "Microsoft Print to PDF" as the printer and it will produce a PDF of
the document.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 2:39 PM Prem Nath 
mailto:nathp...@outlook.com>> wrote:

> Hi, am coming from this link, apologies if this is the wrong email to
> contact.
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/c/cd/How-to-create-posters-Draw.pdf
> Just wanted to know if the LibreOffice Draw file discussed in the link can
> create print quality PDFs, or is there no option but to use Adobe.
> The document discusses this partially and also mentions Adobe.
> Unsure.
> Thanks!
>
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RE: [libreoffice-documentation] Looking to start contributing to LibreOffice documentation

[annie.tp.nguyen]

Hi Dan,

 

Thank you!

 

To answer your questions:

*   Level of experience with LibreOffice: None, but excited to learn
*   Knowledge of styles: To confirm, you are referring to formatting styles 
e.g. heading styles, numbering styles? I am comfortable with using them in MS 
Word documents to make them more navigable and easier to read, and in MS 
PowerPoint to apply a consistent design across slides (colour and font theme, 
Slide Master).
*   Operating system: Windows

 

Thank you for pointing me to the Writer Guide and highlighting that styles are 
important. I will read up on it. 

 

Annie

 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Lewis  
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 3:43 PM
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Looking to start contributing to 
LibreOffice documentation

 

Welcome!

 

Others will give you the guidance that you need. What I would like to know is 
what is your experience level in using LibreOffice. What is your knowledge of 
styles in a text document? What operating system does your computer use? These 
are some basic background questions that is helpful for us to know.

 

Personal example: I began nearly 20 years ago with little knowledge about the 
program. I had a lot to learn, but I did. Learning to use styles is very 
important for our work so I read the chapters on styles in the Writer Guide, 
learning and applying them as I went. It is gratifying work. You can also.

 

Dan

 

On 6/4/20 15:37,   annie.tp.ngu...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello!

> 

>   

> 

> My name is Annie. I am currently exploring a career transition into

> technical writing, and would like contribute to LibreOffice's documentation

> efforts. My goals are to develop and practice my technical writing skills

> and start to build my portfolio.

> 

>   

> 

> A little about myself: My educational background is in chemical engineering,

> during which I spent my summers on a variety of research projects. I moved

> into business technology consulting as a new grad when I realized I am not

> suited for creating technology. While in consulting, I had the opportunity

> to lead and execute the documentation effort on a software implementation,

> and have slowly come to orient towards a career in technical writing. I

> enjoy being able to combine technical knowledge with user-friendly design,

> pressing flowers, and trying new cooking recipes.

> 

>   

> 

> I appreciate any guidance on the best way for a beginner to contribute, and

> can commit to 4 hours per week at this time. If it makes sense, I intend to

> start with reviewing the Help contents and User Guides, researching for

> improvements, and adding in artwork. As I become more familiar with the

> topics available, I intend to start writing and editing.

> 

>   

> 

> Looking forward to learning from and working with you all!

> 

>   

> 

> Kind regards,

> 

> Annie Nguyen

> 

>   <  
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/atpnguyen/>

>   
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/atpnguyen/

> 

>   

> 

> 

 

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Error Codes Rev 1

[Kevin Berry]

Yeah, the #DIV/0 might actually be a 532, huh? How do I make Calc show me
the error Code, not just the error Message?

What made me add that in there was that the explanation of that error
is " *Division
by 0*, or another calculation that results in an overflow of the defined
value range (*a value too big or too small*)."
Dividing by zero is the "too big" part of that.

I attached the spreadsheet I was using to replicate some of these errors.
The part that is relevant to this email is A2:E4

Gordon Bates
berrykevin...@gmaill.com
github.com/jdoes


On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:07 AM Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> Hi Gordon,
>
> Thanks for that. I have accepted most of the changes and placed the
> updated file in the Draft folder, ready for second review.
>
> I did not accept one of the changes (in Table 2) because I'm not sure that
> it is correct. As far as I was aware, error 503 gives a #NUM! error in the
> cell, not a #DIV/0! error (unless you've come across a  counterexample?).
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Kevin Berry" 
> To: "Stephen Fanning" ; "documentation list" <
> documentation@global.libreoffice.org>
> Sent: 04/06/2020 20:34:51
> Subject: Calc Error Codes Rev 1
>
> I have completed review1 of the error codes section, and placed it in the
> feedback folder.
>
> Gordon Bates
> berrykevin...@gmaill.com
> github.com/jdoes
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice print

[Caroline Carlisle Tidwell]

I also noticed a feature in reviewing for curriculum teaching all of the
Adobe products and working on a project that there is a built in ISO19005
tag in Draw for any regulatory requirements that you might have in your
particular country. This feature is a secret hidden gem of sorts as I have
never seen something so rare and beautiful in the Word Suite.



On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:29 PM Alan B  wrote:

> LibreOffice Draw has a menu option File>Export as PDF..., so yes it can.
>
> Also, if you're using Windows 10 it has it's own built-in PDF printer.
> Select "Microsoft Print to PDF" as the printer and it will produce a PDF of
> the document.
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 2:39 PM Prem Nath  wrote:
>
> > Hi, am coming from this link, apologies if this is the wrong email to
> > contact.
> >
> >
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/c/cd/How-to-create-posters-Draw.pdf
> > Just wanted to know if the LibreOffice Draw file discussed in the link
> can
> > create print quality PDFs, or is there no option but to use Adobe.
> > The document discusses this partially and also mentions Adobe.
> > Unsure.
> > Thanks!
> >
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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 6.4 published

[Peter Schofield]

The Draw Guide Version 6.4 has been published. The ODT and PDF file versions 
are now in the Published folder on NextCloud.

Enjoy
Peter Schofield
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[libreoffice-documentation] Macro Code Colorizer

[Drew Jensen]

Howdy,

Following up from the meeting yesterday.

So, I was wrong about the extension using direct formatting with
regards to the extension 'Macro Formatter 4.1.1'. Using a fresh
document it did add a set of character styles and the uses those in
the formatting and colorizing process. (The only note to make here is
that it needs to have the default configuration or _OOoTextBody
changed for the paragraph style - I choose the standard Text Body and
it worked fine)

As for a second extension, 'Code Highlighter 1.6', this python
extension does not run properly in the latest versions of LO so I
could not answer the question of how it handles the document changes.

Best wishes,

Drew

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Template 7.x update

[Peter Schofield]

Hello Olivier

When I paste text into a bullet or numbered para, the para moves one indent to 
the right, which is annoying.
My solution is to click on the bullet or number icon on the Formatting toolbar. 
The para moves back to normal position for that level of bullet or number point.
This could be a bug, but I have not yet tested this in a blank Writer document 
that does not use the LO template.

Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com



> On 5 Jun 2020, at 02:22, Olivier Hallot  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Team
> I have updated the template following the meeting this last Thursday
> June 4th.
> 
> I admit the bullet and numbering lists is not yet perfect, It has
> challenged me for some hours and included chasing a bug that messed with
> list bullet position vs paragraph indentation.
> 
> file is template7a_OH.ott in the /Contributor Resource/ folder.
> 
> Regards
> 
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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Error Codes Rev 1

[Steve Fanning]

Hi Gordon,

Thanks for that. I have accepted most of the changes and placed the 
updated file in the Draft folder, ready for second review.


I did not accept one of the changes (in Table 2) because I'm not sure 
that it is correct. As far as I was aware, error 503 gives a #NUM! error 
in the cell, not a #DIV/0! error (unless you've come across a  
counterexample?).


Regards,

Steve



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Sent: 04/06/2020 20:34:51
Subject: Calc Error Codes Rev 1

I have completed review1 of the error codes section, and placed it in 
the feedback folder.


Gordon Bates
berrykevin...@gmaill.com
github.com/jdoes

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Template 7.x update

[Peter Schofield]

Hello

The bullet and numbered lists need a slight change only.

Space below paragraphs should be 0.15cm for all bullet and numbered points. 
This spacing below paragraphs will make any bullet or number points appear 
closer together making it easier to recognise a list.

Character used for bullet point in List 2 should be changed to an EN dash. This 
will make more noticeable.

Numbering is fine using numeric for Number 1 and Alph for Number 2.

Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com



> On 5 Jun 2020, at 02:22, Olivier Hallot  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Team
> I have updated the template following the meeting this last Thursday
> June 4th.
> 
> I admit the bullet and numbering lists is not yet perfect, It has
> challenged me for some hours and included chasing a bug that messed with
> list bullet position vs paragraph indentation.
> 
> file is template7a_OH.ott in the /Contributor Resource/ folder.
> 
> Regards
> 
> -- 
> Olivier Hallot
> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
> Comunidade LibreOffice
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00
> http://tdf.io/joinus
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