Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for a change to the NextCloud workflow
On 09/10/2020 02:08, Olivier Hallot wrote: > Hi Dave, All > > Em 11/09/2020 11:18, DaveB escreveu: >> For the benefit of those who were not part of yesterday's team meeting, >> or haven't yet read the minutes. I put forward a proposal as per the >> subject line of this post. >> >> A copy of my proposal is available from: >> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/9FqwWK3m6Cy2zHQ >> The proposal has 5 points together with my rational for the changes. >> >> If there are no reasonable objections, I propose to start updating our >> NextCloud instance on Friday, 18th. September. >> >> Best Regards >> Dave >> > I'm bringing a new element to the discussion, related to Version control. > > Our infra team added a Version Control plugin to NextCloud. > > Each file in Nextcloud is version controlled, including our Guides and > guides components. > > Details on the way to use it are in this link: > > https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/stable/user_manual/files/version_control.html?highlight=version%20control > > I think it can be considered in the proposed workflow changes > > Kind regards Hi Olivier, All Yes we definitely could make use of the versioning system, but there might be some unforeseen side issues. Based on my couple of very rudimentary tests, it appears that the names of the edited/revised and existing files must be 100% identical. For example: The *content* of the (fictitious) "GS7001-DB.odt" and "GS7001_DB.odt" files could be identical, but the NextCloud versioning system would identify them by the small filename difference as totally separate and unrelated, so no version control would be applied. Now if I download "GS7001-DB.odt" edit it and upload without changing the file name the NextCloud versioning system works as expected. Although NextCloud will challenge me about an existing file with and identical name, every time I upload. See the identical versioned and non-versioned test spreadsheets here: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/LibreOffice%20Documentation/English/Getting%20Started%20Guide/7.0=329928 I am happy to work with the version control system, but it might add a little extra work for those who, like me, have a local naming procedure for files on their own system. There is a possibility confusion arising when it is forgotten that previous and current filenames must be 100% identical. I would like to hear the views of other contributors before I move any further forward on the workflow changes. Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 8th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
Olivier Hallot kirjoitti 9.10.2020 klo 0.57: Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 8th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. + API documentation (Soren Jonsson) + sent mail to doc list, no answer, will resend + API doc is hard for end-users, occasional macro programmer (OH) + Was writen for developers, familiar to object-oriented languages (RL) + Tried to code calc cell border in python, took time (RL) + Many Help pages on python by LibreOfficiant, please check (OH) + Interested in topic too (Travis) + there is a working group on scripting devel and doc (OH) The old OOo dev guide will be imported to TDF wiki. The project has been stalled due to lack of volunteer time. Ilmari -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for a change to the NextCloud workflow
Hi Dave, All Em 11/09/2020 11:18, DaveB escreveu: > For the benefit of those who were not part of yesterday's team meeting, > or haven't yet read the minutes. I put forward a proposal as per the > subject line of this post. > > A copy of my proposal is available from: > https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/9FqwWK3m6Cy2zHQ > The proposal has 5 points together with my rational for the changes. > > If there are no reasonable objections, I propose to start updating our > NextCloud instance on Friday, 18th. September. > > Best Regards > Dave > I'm bringing a new element to the discussion, related to Version control. Our infra team added a Version Control plugin to NextCloud. Each file in Nextcloud is version controlled, including our Guides and guides components. Details on the way to use it are in this link: https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/stable/user_manual/files/version_control.html?highlight=version%20control I think it can be considered in the proposed workflow changes Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 8th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 8th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Travis Stewart, Dave Barton, Rafael Lima, Olivier, Soren Jonsson, Emiliano Vavassori Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: + Front and back covers for 7.0 release (OH) Pending items: + Change in workflow News: PLease come to LibreOffice Conference 2020 next week ! https://conference.libreoffice.org Topics and Discussion: + Suggestions for Database Functions (S Fanning) + Answered in the same document, need finishing touch (OH) + Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help + Seasons of Doc update (OH) + Wiki on Calc Functions + E-learning (hosted by LibreItalia) + Covers for Guides + Overall result appreciated (all) + Nextcloud Folder in duplicate (Dave) + Archive folder /Cover7/ + Keep folder /cover7.0/ + Credits to Rizal Mutaqin and Drew Jensen in chapters + Covers are memory intense, slow to handle/render (RL) + hi-res using SVG (OH) + Can we use PNG? (RL) + up to Guide team discretion (OH) + please use a copy of source to play with (OH) + Math Guide (Rafael Lima) + Like the book, very complete + I write Academic tech papers with math equations, + Math is important + Adding new contents and examples for 7.0 + Other topics + NC performance ? + Sometimes slow, but not so often (DB) + Editing with LOOL is very slow (DB) + Issue with copy/move several files at once with web UI + learned to do it one by one. + No issue in download (RL) + LOOL is slow in FFox but better in Chrome (RL) + New Workflow + Not changed directory structure yet (DB) + About to finish Chap 3 of Contrib Guide + Later I'll mirror in wiki (DB) + Writing Style for help (Travis) + Are there recommendations for writing? (Travis) + Contributor Guide, Chap 4 + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/StyleGuide#Writing_style + LibreLogo (Travis) + interested in the language (Travis) + Should we write a tutorial on LibreLogo (?) + Write a wiki page on Logo, link from Help pages for further reading + Too much contents in Help will oveload translators(OH) + stick to the essential in Help, extend in Wiki + Help pages from search engines (RL) + search for LibreOffice leads to old wiki help (RL) + Wiki Help was released in 2010, (OH) + Until LO 6.1, when Help changed technology/URLs + 8 years of organic indexing won't vanish quickly (OH) + SEO is an avenue for permanent routine work/improvement (OH) + can speed up indexing but requires energy(OH) + API documentation (Soren Jonsson) + sent mail to doc list, no answer, will resend + API doc is hard for end-users, occasional macro programmer (OH) + Was writen for developers, familiar to object-oriented languages (RL) + Tried to code calc cell border in python, took time (RL) + Many Help pages on python by LibreOfficiant, please check (OH) + Interested in topic too (Travis) + there is a working group on scripting devel and doc (OH) Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* October 22th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] A proposed book or reference card for LIbreOffice Base application programming...
Peek here https://www.pitonyak.org/database/ Then take a look at this document https://www.pitonyak.org/database/AndrewBase.odt Might be helpful On Thursday, October 08, 2020 14:58 EDT, Sören Jonsson wrote: Hello, I am currently learning how to create LibreOffice Base applications. I would have liked to find more documentation on attributes and methods available in the forms, and other information relevant to a macro programmer in LIbreOffice Base. I have created, and include in this mail, a writer document outlining what I would like to have found.( I use the Swedish version of LIbreOffice, so if you find any names or terms strange it's due to a bad translation into English. My bad in that case.) The inspiration for my proposal is that I would like to write a macro that add lines to an table control, taking information from one table control with a list of government departments and on click displays a list of agencies under that department in another table control. If I would create such a document, or participate in it's creation, do you agree that it would be a useful addition to the documentation or would I just be wasting my time? I would naturlally be less inclined to put in the hours if I would be the sole user... I have a masters degree in computer science from the university of Umeaa, here in Sweden, and a master of education in computer science and physics from the same university. I have written a master thesis in English, and a (not published) book on database administration and programming for high school students. The book was written in Swedish (on the request of my then pupils) and I used Microsoft SQL Server Express Edition and Access due to demands from my then employer. With my best regards, -- Sören Jonsson Kärnvägen 237 906 27 UMEÅ SWEDEN Tel: 090-180 339, 070-603 3896 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Link to my proposal on Dropbox.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r475a2n4t846ubp/OpenOffice%20Base%20Programming%20Reference.odt?dl=0 Since the maillist don't accept attachements... -- Sören Jonsson Kärnvägen 237 906 27 UMEÅ SWEDEN Tel: 090-180 339, 070-603 3896 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] A proposed book or reference card for LIbreOffice Base application programming...
Hello, I am currently learning how to create LibreOffice Base applications. I would have liked to find more documentation on attributes and methods available in the forms, and other information relevant to a macro programmer in LIbreOffice Base. I have created, and include in this mail, a writer document outlining what I would like to have found.( I use the Swedish version of LIbreOffice, so if you find any names or terms strange it's due to a bad translation into English. My bad in that case.) The inspiration for my proposal is that I would like to write a macro that add lines to an table control, taking information from one table control with a list of government departments and on click displays a list of agencies under that department in another table control. If I would create such a document, or participate in it's creation, do you agree that it would be a useful addition to the documentation or would I just be wasting my time? I would naturlally be less inclined to put in the hours if I would be the sole user... I have a masters degree in computer science from the university of Umeaa, here in Sweden, and a master of education in computer science and physics from the same university. I have written a master thesis in English, and a (not published) book on database administration and programming for high school students. The book was written in Swedish (on the request of my then pupils) and I used Microsoft SQL Server Express Edition and Access due to demands from my then employer. With my best regards, -- Sören Jonsson Kärnvägen 237 906 27 UMEÅ SWEDEN Tel: 090-180 339, 070-603 3896 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is today at 18:00 UTC
Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) ! Our documentation team meeting will take place today at 18:00 UTC We will use the following jitsi meeting room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam The meeting room is supposed to work will all browsers without the need of a specific plugin. The documentation pad for the meeting minute is http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation Main topics: Progress in Guides Help contents See you later! -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] GSOD 2020 - Wiki on Calc Functions - Meeting Minutes 6 Oct 2020
Meeting Minutes 6 Oct 2020 + Presents: Ronnie, Steve, Olivier + Completed action items + database file spreadsheet with example of all DB function + wiki template for repeated text in DB functions + Alphabetic Page navigation: Hash in front of the letters, + where it came from?- Address + Remove Note on LibreOffice Release number + Pending actions + Administrative + Development + Replace BINOM.DIST by links to wikipedia, same for other statistical functions + Hold Database function until Steve rewrite contents to be used by Help and wiki + Proceed with Statistics + Presentation for LibreOffice conference + File with database functions: + Improve layout with colors + Express the formula with the =FORMULA() function + it will give the localized name automatically + Improve the search criteria with more complex criteria showing AND and OR combinations. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guide Covers for 7.0
Hello Olivier, Just looked at the covers and in my opinion, they are amazing! Thanks for the effort! Best regards, Felipe Viggiano Em seg., 5 de out. de 2020 às 17:05, Olivier Hallot < olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> escreveu: > Hi Team > > Pushing forward the work initiated by Rizal Muttaquin and later by Drew > Jensen, I gave a try on the back and front covers of the 7.0 series of > Guides. > > All files are in the /Contributor Resources/Cover7.0/ folder. > > I am not a designer nor an expert in the printing industry, so forgive > the errors and mistakes. Furthermore, I had to learn Inkscape UI almost > from scratch. > > All Source-* files are editable and has fonts "as fonts", that is, if > later we must change anything, we can type the new text. > > All *-converted-to-curves*- files are files where the fonts were > converted into curves, so that the final SVG does not depend on > installed fonts, but then the texts are not easily editable. > > The -converted-to-curves- files were used as front and back covers for > the ODT files with associated names. These are just samples. > > The PDF files are the above ODFs exported to PDF. > > I also uploaded the trueno fonts used in the guide front covers. > > While I think the covers are usable right now, I may have missed something. > > Kind regards > > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: > https://www.libreoffice.org > Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: First review - CG7015-KeyboardShortcuts
Hello Steve, Thanks for the offering! In fact, I will definitely need your advice on some issues! Especially in the post-reviewing phase. Please, if you see anything that's not in the right direction about the coordination, feel free to let me know! Best regards, Felipe Viggiano Em qua., 7 de out. de 2020 às 09:12, Steve (GMail) < stevemfanning...@gmail.com> escreveu: > Hi Felipe, > > I am still around. If I can offer any advice with regards to suggestions > (or anything else with the CG) then please feel free to ask. > > Regards, > > Steve > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Felipe Viggiano" > To: "LibreOffice Documentation" > Sent: 07/10/2020 01:44:21 > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: First review - > CG7015-KeyboardShortcuts > > >Hello everyone, > > > >The first review of the CG7015-KeyboardShortcuts is uploaded in the > >Feedback folder with just a few minor suggestions and template updating. > > > >I have also checked out the last chapter (CG7016-CalcErrorCodes) for a > >first review. Expect to return it by Friday - 09Oct2020. > > > >The Status Guide is updated. > > > >Best regards, > >Felipe Viggiano > > > > > > > >Em dom., 4 de out. de 2020 às 15:03, Felipe Viggiano < > >felipeviggi...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > >> Hello everyone, > >> > >> Just checked out the CG7015 for a first review. > >> > >> Expect to return it by 07Oct2020. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Felipe Viggiano > >> > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe e-mail to: > documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > >Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > >Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > >Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
