Re: [libreoffice-documentation] French FAQs?

2014-03-19 Thread Jean Weber
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Alan Cook ajc...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hello. I've just signed up as a documentation volunteer. I notice that on the 
 FAQ page there's a note about needing help with translating the questions 
 from French, but when I compare the French and English pages it looks like 
 everything's already been translated. Is there anything else that needs to be 
 translated? If so, I'd be glad to do it.

 Alan

Alan, welcome to the team.

The FAQ section for Draw has no entries in English, although the
French section for Draw does. The section for Impress has many
questions listed for which the answers have not been translated.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS4010

2014-03-16 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Martin Saffron martinsaff...@gmail.com wrote:

 I may have a bit of spare time next week so will look at updating chapter 10
 of the Getting Started user guide.

I have Chapter 10 checked out. --Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Book distribution, production, and related matters

2014-03-16 Thread Jean Weber
I changed the subject line.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:01 AM,  timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sunday, March 16, 2014 09:47:33 AM you wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:58 AM,  timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:24:11 AM you wrote:
  On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:15:06 AM you wrote:
   On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote:
 Jean,

 Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google
 Books
 to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.)
 It
 would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo
 would
 also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This
 would
 certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they
 are
 provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well.

 I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have
 not
 actually tried them out though.

 Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would
 like
 to
 learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and
 wants
 to
 lead this then I am willing to port some chapters!

 Tim
   
Tim,
As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it
is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to
be
stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will
take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is
not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not.
I
have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books.
   
Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has
cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the
energy
to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using
them, but others can pursue this if they wish to.
   
We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats)
from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and
publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs
for users to download at no cost.
   
Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said
that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job
of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan
is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's
for
him to say.
ev
IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the
conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented
some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the
archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the
changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever
possible and using the built-in style names instead.
   
This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new
template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for
various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years
seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of
the resulting PDFs  printed books and not on changes that affect the
conversion process to other formats.
   
--Jean
  
   Jean,
  
   I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership
   Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting
   Started
   Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google
   Play
   for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing
   it
   for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately
   upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from
   Google
   Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version
   from
   Lulu as well.
  
   I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is
   pretty
   fast and relatively easy.
  
   I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one
   turns
   out.
  
  
   Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple
   administrators to ease management/updates etc.
  
   Tim
 
  Jean,
 
  I attempted to upload the .ODT version hoping to make it an additional
  available format for download but Google currently rejects that file
  type.
  It is limited to PDF, epub as well as cover art in jpeg/gif.
 
  Tim
 
  Jean,
 
  According to Google The getting started guide is now live and online in
  The
  PE, US and VE sales regions. I am currently not able to located it though
  through their search tools.
 
  I did find that there is another group that has uploaded some but not all
  of the manuals under the Google Play Books Textbooks. They are missing
  covers and have other minor issues though but they did get ISBN Numbers
  assigned for them 

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS4010

2014-03-16 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Martin Saffron martinsaff...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I may have a bit of spare time next week so will look at updating chapter 10
 of the Getting Started user guide.

 I have Chapter 10 checked out. --Jean

I've now updated GS Chapter 10 using material JohnS updated for the
Writer Guide.

Would be good if someone checked it to see if I missed something.
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/gs4-2-ch10-printing-exporting-emailing/view

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] WG Chapter 5; PrintingExportingEmailing

2014-03-16 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 4:11 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 This chapter now uploaded to ODF, Writer Drafts 4.2 folder.

 JohnS

I have reviewed this chapter and placed it in the Writer 4.2 Feedback folder.

I have not reviewed Chapters 3 and 4 because I thought you might want
to make further changes related to including info about the sidebar.

--Jean

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Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??

2014-03-15 Thread Jean Weber
Sorry, I had intended to reply on-list, as Tim's questions were
addressed to the list.

I have one comment in addition to what I've said below: Bruce Byfield,
who is writing a book on styles and templates (titled Designing with
LibreOffice), should have some very relevant and valuable comments to
make on the subject of conversion to ebook formats, among other
topics.

--Jean

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this
material in a soft cover book for us??
To: timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com


 Jean,

 Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to
 stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would
 not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the
 soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in
 reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would
 provide some great advertising as well.

 I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually
 tried them out though.

 Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn
 how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this
 then I am willing to port some chapters!

 Tim

Tim,
As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it
is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be
stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will
take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is
not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I
have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books.

Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has
cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy
to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using
them, but others can pursue this if they wish to.

We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats)
from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and
publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs
for users to download at no cost.

Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said
that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job
of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan
is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for
him to say.

IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the
conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented
some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the
archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the
changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever
possible and using the built-in style names instead.

This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new
template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for
various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years
seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of
the resulting PDFs  printed books and not on changes that affect the
conversion process to other formats.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??

2014-03-15 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:58 AM,  timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:24:11 AM you wrote:
 On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:15:06 AM you wrote:
  On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote:
Jean,
   
Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google
Books
to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It
would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo
would
also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would
certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are
provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well.
   
I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not
actually tried them out though.
   
Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like
to
learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants
to
lead this then I am willing to port some chapters!
   
Tim
  
   Tim,
   As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it
   is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be
   stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will
   take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is
   not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I
   have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books.
  
   Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has
   cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy
   to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using
   them, but others can pursue this if they wish to.
  
   We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats)
   from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and
   publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs
   for users to download at no cost.
  
   Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said
   that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job
   of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan
   is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for
   him to say.
   ev
   IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the
   conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented
   some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the
   archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the
   changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever
   possible and using the built-in style names instead.
  
   This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new
   template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for
   various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years
   seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of
   the resulting PDFs  printed books and not on changes that affect the
   conversion process to other formats.
  
   --Jean
 
  Jean,
 
  I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership
  Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started
  Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play
  for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it
  for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately
  upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google
  Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from
  Lulu as well.
 
  I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty
  fast and relatively easy.
 
  I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns
  out.
 
 
  Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple
  administrators to ease management/updates etc.
 
  Tim

 Jean,

 I attempted to upload the .ODT version hoping to make it an additional
 available format for download but Google currently rejects that file type.
 It is limited to PDF, epub as well as cover art in jpeg/gif.

 Tim

 Jean,

 According to Google The getting started guide is now live and online in The
 PE, US and VE sales regions. I am currently not able to located it though
 through their search tools.

 I did find that there is another group that has uploaded some but not all of
 the manuals under the Google Play Books Textbooks. They are missing covers and
 have other minor issues though but they did get ISBN Numbers assigned for them
 though.

 http://books.google.com/books/about/Getting_Started_with_LibreOffice_4_0.html?id=H3ennAEACAAJ

 I will let everyone know when I am finished publishing all of them and they
 actually show up in the content search.

 Tim

That other group is us. Those are copies of the printed editions
published by Friends of OpenDocument, 

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] translation of index entries

2014-03-12 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Milos Sramek sramek.mi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 we have a small problem with index entries in translation of the GS guide to
 Slovak.

 To explain: technically, there are two types of index entries, independent
 and shared (may own names :)). In the first type, the entry is independent
 of the guide text, while  in the second the entry shares the guide text. The
 first is presented as a small gray blob between words, in the second case
 the shared text is displayed in gray.

 The second type causes problems in translation to languages with inflection,
 since inflected words get into the index.
 We thus need to get rid of the shared entries and to replace them by
 independent ones. This can be done only manually.

 We will have to do that at least in the final Slovak version - to save time,
 I suggest to do that directly in the original. I volunteer to do that - can
 I use the version from
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2
 ? Is somebody else working on these files now?

 best
 Milos

 PS:
 We have just joined our forces with the Czech  localization team - Slovak
 and Czech are very similar languages and machine translation Slovak -
 Czech works very well. So I hope that GS42 will be translated in two
 languages soon.

JohnS and I are working on more changes to Chapters 1, 4, and 5.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] translation of index entries

2014-03-12 Thread Jean Weber
Martin,
Removing the index entries may not be helpful, because then, instead
of correcting the ones that need to be changed, we have to start from
scratch to re-enter all of them.

However, most chapters need re-indexing anyway, due to not being kept
up to date.

--Jean


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Martin Saffron martinsaff...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Milos,

 I've just caught up with my email backlog and have seen this.

 I've been drafting GS4211 today (I'm currently in the process of creating
 new diagrams so will upload the revised version in the next couple of days)
 and have removed all instances of the first type of index entry you
 mentioned.  I've deleted any grey blobs between words.  Will that cause any
 translation problems?  If so, I'm able to amend them prior to uploading the
 draft.

 Thanks,

 Martin



 On 10/03/14 11:07, Milos Sramek wrote:

 Hi,

 we have a small problem with index entries in translation of the GS guide
 to Slovak.

 To explain: technically, there are two types of index entries, independent
 and shared (may own names :)). In the first type, the entry is independent
 of the guide text, while  in the second the entry shares the guide text. The
 first is presented as a small gray blob between words, in the second case
 the shared text is displayed in gray.

 The second type causes problems in translation to languages with
 inflection, since inflected words get into the index.
 We thus need to get rid of the shared entries and to replace them by
 independent ones. This can be done only manually.

 We will have to do that at least in the final Slovak version - to save
 time, I suggest to do that directly in the original. I volunteer to do that
 - can I use the version from
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2
 ? Is somebody else working on these files now?

 best
 Milos

 PS:
 We have just joined our forces with the Czech  localization team - Slovak
 and Czech are very similar languages and machine translation Slovak -
 Czech works very well. So I hope that GS42 will be translated in two
 languages soon.



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Tip of the day tweets from @LibreOffice account

2014-03-06 Thread Jean Weber
I had tried to start something similar on the Documentation blog, with
tipshints and pointers to how-to pages, but the problem is always
that someone has to write the how-tos. Once they are written, then we
can link to them in many ways: blog posts, Twitter, Facebook, G+...

I hope your initiative succeeds, Zeki.

--Jean


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Zeki Bildirici
zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I mostly give links to how-to pages, which was -mostly-written by me :(

 May be we can work on Etherpad to produce this tweets.

 No restriction, or diffuculty level. We can start from simple actions
 to complicated XML filters...

 Btw, we don't have to be shy to tweet, thats twitter and it is
 streaming, not like mailboxes. As much as we use, we can benefit more
 and more.

 Could we open a pad and see what can we do?
 Pad name can be:

 LibreOffice tipshints tweets

 or anything

 Best regards,
 Zeki

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[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started, Chapters 1 through 5

2014-03-02 Thread Jean Weber
I have gone through Chapters 1 through 5 of the Getting Started guide
for LO v4.2, which have been reviewed and updated by other people. IMO
Chapters 1, 2 and 3 are ready to publish. However, it would be good if
someone else would go through the latest iteration of Chapters 4 and
5, reviewing against the software. All files are in this folder:

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: GS Ch3 Styles Templates

2014-03-01 Thread Jean Weber
On Thursday, 27 February 2014, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


 Further to this, I've just downloaded the GS Styles and Templates chapter
 to have a look at it ( I see the chapter was booked out by BB on the 14th
 Feb, and so I won't do anything to it) and I can see once again, many other
 styles not in the template. Can you say whether they're there by intention
 and ought to be left, or whether they can go?


Many chapters contain styles that are not in the template and often are not
even in use in the chapter. IMO they can all be purged and, if in use,
replaced with our standard styles. I haven't been too concerned about
them because we keep planning to have a whole new template, but so far that
keeps getting stalled so it's probably a good idea to clean up the chapters
as we go.

BB (Bruce Byfield) has just sent me his revised version of this chapter,
which I will have alook at and then upload to the website.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Information request

2014-02-26 Thread Jean Weber
Tom, that has nothing to do with whether a feature is available -- by
design -- on some platforms and not on others, which is the situation here.

--Jean

On Wednesday, 26 February 2014, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 Have you tried renaming your User Profile to get back to factory
 defaults?  That usually gets rid of all sorts of weirdnesses that
 shouldn't happen
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

 Regards from
 Tom :)


 On 26 February 2014 09:30, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.ukjavascript:;
 wrote:
  No takers on this? Just a few lines from someone with a non-Windows OS
 would
  be appreciated. :-)
 
  JohnS
  On 20/02/2014 19:47, John Smith wrote:
 
  Hi all.
  On the Tools  Options  LibreOffice  Print page is a menu item
  (apparently) 'PDF as Standard Print Job Format'. This menu item is not
  available in Windows - my system - so I can't see it or try it to write
 it
  up.
  Would someone be good enough to write a paragraph or so giving me the
 info
  on this so that I can include it in the Guide. I'll append your name as
 a
  contributor in the guide.
  Hope someone can help, thanks
  JohnS
 



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] libreoffice writer guide

2014-02-23 Thread Jean Weber
Not sure about your question. Do you mean starting from a command
line? If so, which platform?

Usually, on any platform, it's started in the graphical user
interface, and the many ways to do that are described in Chapter 1 of
the Getting Started book, if they are not in Chapter 1 of the Writer
Guide.

--Jean


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Jeremy Dawson jeremy.daw...@anu.edu.au wrote:
 I have made quite a considerable effort looking in this documentation for
 the command to start libreoffice.  And I cannot find it.  How to use
 libreoffice once I have got it started is not much use if I can't start it.

 What it the command to start it, please?

 Regards,

 Jeremy Dawson


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] libreoffice writer guide

2014-02-23 Thread Jean Weber
I think the commands are soffice, swriter, scalc, etc, with various
switches as for OOo, but I'm not anywhere that I can easily look it up
right now.

Clayton, or someone else on this list, may have more info handy.

--Jean


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Jeremy Dawson jeremy.daw...@anu.edu.au wrote:
 Hi Jean,

 Yes, starting from a command line.  In Linux, Fedora 20.

 Just like for openoffice, one would type oowriter, or for staroffice, one
 would type soffice

 Thanks for the advice about getting it started in the graphical user
 interface, and the many ways to do that but I assume the developers haven't
 deliberately removed my choice of working how I find easiest

 Regards,

 Jeremy Dawson


 On 24/02/14 07:00, Jean Weber wrote:

 Not sure about your question. Do you mean starting from a command
 line? If so, which platform?

 Usually, on any platform, it's started in the graphical user
 interface, and the many ways to do that are described in Chapter 1 of
 the Getting Started book, if they are not in Chapter 1 of the Writer
 Guide.

 --Jean


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Jeremy Dawson jeremy.daw...@anu.edu.au
 wrote:

 I have made quite a considerable effort looking in this documentation for
 the command to start libreoffice.  And I cannot find it.  How to use
 libreoffice once I have got it started is not much use if I can't start
 it.

 What it the command to start it, please?

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Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] libreoffice writer guide

2014-02-23 Thread Jean Weber
Thanks, Jean,

soffice (here, at work, on Ubuntu) gives you something which enables
you to choose among Writer, Spreadsheet, etc. The other commands you
mention aren't recognized.

Re switches, there seems to be no man page for soffice, in the Ubuntu
distribution
(package libreoffice-common, Version: 1:3.5.7-0ubuntu5)

regards,

Jeremy



On 24/02/14 12:15, Jean Weber wrote:

 I think the commands are soffice, swriter, scalc, etc, with various
 switches as for OOo, but I'm not anywhere that I can easily look it up
 right now.

 Clayton, or someone else on this list, may have more info handy.

 --Jean


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Jeremy Dawson jeremy.daw...@anu.edu.au 
 wrote:

 Hi Jean,

 Yes, starting from a command line.  In Linux, Fedora 20.

 Just like for openoffice, one would type oowriter, or for staroffice, one
 would type soffice

 Thanks for the advice about getting it started in the graphical user
 interface, and the many ways to do that but I assume the developers haven't
 deliberately removed my choice of working how I find easiest

 Regards,

 Jeremy Dawson


 On 24/02/14 07:00, Jean Weber wrote:

 Not sure about your question. Do you mean starting from a command
 line? If so, which platform?

 Usually, on any platform, it's started in the graphical user
 interface, and the many ways to do that are described in Chapter 1 of
 the Getting Started book, if they are not in Chapter 1 of the Writer
 Guide.

 --Jean


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Jeremy Dawson jeremy.daw...@anu.edu.au
 wrote:

 I have made quite a considerable effort looking in this documentation for
 the command to start libreoffice.  And I cannot find it.  How to use
 libreoffice once I have got it started is not much use if I can't start
 it.

 What it the command to start it, please?

 Regards,

 Jeremy Dawson


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[libreoffice-documentation] GS Chapter 3 (Styles Templates)

2014-02-14 Thread Jean Weber
Bruce Byfield, who is writing a book on using LO styles  templates,
has agreed to review (and revise as needed) Getting Started Chapter 3,
Styles and Templates. Among other things, he'll be following up on all
the questions left in that chapter after I and others had looked at
it.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Documentation Blog

2014-02-10 Thread Jean Weber
My official email address is jeanwe...@libreoffice.com
 On Feb 11, 2014 1:00 AM, Jean Spiteri beimaginativeegr...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Can you give me his/her email address? Sophie, this is so that I fix
 fdo#72071 which is a replacement for the page you linked to.




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS Guide Chapter 1 Introducing LibreOffice

2014-02-07 Thread Jean Weber
Peter,
I am reviewing your changes and will be uploading a revised chapter
later today. You have indeed misunderstood the Quickstarter. I am
rewriting that section and will include revised screenshots, which you
may wish to replace with ones that match the rest of the chapter. I'm
also making some other changes, mainly of things I didn't notice on my
last pass through the doc.

I'll let you know when my next iteration of the file has been uploaded.

--Jean


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:03 PM, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 One edited version of the Chapter 1 Introducing LibreOffice now in the
 Feedback LO 4.2 folder on the ODF Authors website.

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/lo4-2-gs-guide-chap-01-introducing-libreoffice/view

 I have changed screenshots in line with your comments Jean and all
 screenshots are now from an Ubuntu operating system.

 The Quickstarter has got me a little puzzled and the LO help system is not
 very helpful on this. Please check carefully on what I have done. It appears
 that a Linux computer has something similar to a Windows operating system,
 but I cannot confirm this. You will the amended text on this.

 Sorry for the delay in getting this chapter done, but I have not been too
 well and bright for the last couple of weeks. Now back to full strength and
 getting used to abusing my fingers on a keyboard again.

 Regards

 PeterS



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS Guide Chapter 1 Introducing LibreOffice

2014-02-07 Thread Jean Weber
I have amended the chapter and placed it here:
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/gs4-2-ch1-introducing-lo/view

I did not replace any screenshots after all, although I did remove two
of them, along with some words.

--Jean

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Peter,
 I am reviewing your changes and will be uploading a revised chapter
 later today. You have indeed misunderstood the Quickstarter. I am
 rewriting that section and will include revised screenshots, which you
 may wish to replace with ones that match the rest of the chapter. I'm
 also making some other changes, mainly of things I didn't notice on my
 last pass through the doc.

 I'll let you know when my next iteration of the file has been uploaded.

 --Jean


 On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:03 PM, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 One edited version of the Chapter 1 Introducing LibreOffice now in the
 Feedback LO 4.2 folder on the ODF Authors website.

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/lo4-2-gs-guide-chap-01-introducing-libreoffice/view

 I have changed screenshots in line with your comments Jean and all
 screenshots are now from an Ubuntu operating system.

 The Quickstarter has got me a little puzzled and the LO help system is not
 very helpful on this. Please check carefully on what I have done. It appears
 that a Linux computer has something similar to a Windows operating system,
 but I cannot confirm this. You will the amended text on this.

 Sorry for the delay in getting this chapter done, but I have not been too
 well and bright for the last couple of weeks. Now back to full strength and
 getting used to abusing my fingers on a keyboard again.

 Regards

 PeterS



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[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Chs 3 4

2014-02-07 Thread Jean Weber
I have accepted Hazel's copyedits to Ch3 (Styles  Templates) and
revised some words on the Copyright page, but someone needs to do
further review and research to deal with the questions I left in the
chapter on my earlier pass.
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/gs4-2-ch3-styles-templates/view

I made some minor formatting changes to JS's updates to Ch4 (Writer)
and revised some words on the Copyright page. I have NOT reviewed this
chapter in detail, so someone else should do so.
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/gs4-2-ch4-writer/view

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS Guide Chapter 4, Getting started with Writer

2014-02-03 Thread Jean Weber
I anchor all figure graphics as character in their own paragraph. If
anyone does it differently in a user guide file, and I notice, I
change it. This has worked more reliably for years in our docs than
other methods. I don't have the time or energy to explain what the
problems are when doing it differently.

--Jean



On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com wrote:
 One thing I noticed about disappearing graphics was that some figure
 graphics were attached as characters--a method that is used for inserting
 inline graphics along with the text. IOW, on a line of text, as a
 character. Figure graphics should be attached differently.

 Whenever those figure graphics were missing, they were still contained
 within the ODT file; however, they were invisible. I would detect them by
 hunting around with a cursor for their outlines--and then either delete them
 or cut-and-paste them to reattach them where they should have been--inside
 their figures. If I was unsure where the one I found was supposed to be
 (which figure), I would simply paste them somewhere at the end of the
 chapter file for storage, to be inserted afterward.

 Gary


 On 2/3/2014 1:33 PM, John Smith wrote:

 Hi Gary
 Happily for me, disappearing graphics have not been a problem for a long
 time now.
 With respect to the Writer guides, Milos has done some work and 'cleaned'
 them using some software routines. Unfortunately there appears to be some
 random changes made to some of the custom styles we use (not the coloured
 backgrounds to styles that are in the 'cleaned' files, but others). I have
 adopted the routine for Writer of copying and pasting content from the
 'clean' files into a new v3_4 template in order to reset all the styles that
 have the same names, to those in the template.
 I am going to keep multiple copies for the time being. My earlier problem
 was with v4.2.0.3 and now we're into v4.2.0.4 I'm hoping it will be trouble
 free. Time will tell.

 Regards
 JohnS
 On 03/02/2014 04:09, Gary Schnabl wrote:

 A recurring problem I occasionally encountered is having some (or all) of
 the Figure graphics disappearing in some (corrupted?) Writer chapter files
 for one reason or another--sometimes, even before any editing/rewriting was
 done to them. So, I would make multiple files in the process of editing docs
 in order to enable returning to an intermediate edited copy with its
 graphics still intact--thus not losing all that editing effort.

 Gary

 On 2/2/2014 2:03 PM, John Smith wrote:

 Hi Gary
 No, no idea why it crashed. I was just editing happily and it
 disappeared off screen, with no announcement, on one of the occasions,
 another occasion had the look of a 'standard' crash with warnings and
 recovery options. It was from one of these, after it took a good ten 
 minutes
 to recover a document and something like five to six minutes to delete a
 single character that I did a copy/paste into a new clean template. I did
 this a couple of times all told during the work on the chapter.
 Copy/paste doesn't transfer over the edits, that is, the deleted or
 changed text, with or without 'Record Changes- Show' being enabled when
 copying is done. Hence the document not displaying changes made before
 pasting.

 Regards
 JohnS
 On 01/02/2014 22:52, Gary Schnabl wrote:

 Do you have any idea why they crashed? Did you try a copy (Ctrl-A and
 Ctrl-C)-and-paste of the entire chapter file unto a clean, new ODT file 
 from
 the most current template?

 Gary

 On 2/1/2014 5:33 PM, John Smith wrote:

 Hi
  The GS Guide Ch4 has been uploaded to here;

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/chapter-4-getting-started-with-writer/view

 Unfortunately, with this copy I had a lot of trouble with LO crashing
 and file corruption. There are almost no recorded changes prior to about
 page 21 and masses of deleted pages after the document ends. The chapter 
 is
 good to go in spite of this.

 Regards
 Johns











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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Hello all

2014-01-29 Thread Jean Weber
There appears to be a problem right now with adding a new user to the
website. I'll look into it and get back to you as soon as possible,
but that could be some days due to volunteers being busy with other
things. Or it could be only a few hours if it's a temporary hiccup.

You can do some things without being logged in, although you do need
an account to upload files. If you have some templates that you want
to put on the website, one of us can do it for you. You can also put
things on the wiki, where you can create your own account.

--Jean


On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:33 AM, robertjm
rober...@hockeyhockeyhockey.com wrote:
 Hello to all,

 I thought I had already sent my informal Intro mail. But, perhaps not.

 My name is Robert and I've lived in the San Francisco Bay Area all my life,
 except for the three years when I moved to Missoula, MT to attend the
 University of Montana.

 I received a B.A. in Radio-Television (Journalism) and am three credits
 short of a B.A. in History.

 Open Source software is great. I've been using Ubuntu Linux since v6.06
 Dapper Drake, and since that time OpenOffice (and LibreOffice).

 While at CyberCash, I worked on our Knowledgebase for our ICVerify Software
 and so I thought it might be interesting to get involved with tech writing
 for LibreOffice in some capacity. At first, I've wanted to work on template
 creation, which is what brought me to the Documentation Team Mailing List.

 I thought I'd already asked for it. But, must not have. Could you please
 grant me access to the ODFAuthors site?

 Thanks!!

 Robert



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[libreoffice-documentation] Local weather possible downtime

2014-01-28 Thread Jean Weber
While most of you are enduring cold weather or at least some version
of winter, here in Townsville, Australia it's summer and that means:
cyclone season! Yes, the first of the year in our area is headed our
way from the northeast and is forecast to cross the coast a bit north
of here during Friday morning. It's forecast to be only a Category 1,
so not a big deal. Wind and rain (we need the rain), but not
destructive (as long as one doesn't live or camp in an area subject to
flooding or tidal surges; we don't). However, it doesn't take much to
cut off our power for awhile, so that's always a possibility. Just
letting you know in case I go conspicuously silent for awhile, or you
see news reports about it. But really, people in the scorching hot
parts of the country, where the fire risk has been labelled
catastrophic, are in much greater danger.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Version 4.2, Getting Started Guide, Chapter 3

2014-01-27 Thread Jean Weber
I have edited and added to Martin's updates. Some questions remain for
others to address; comments in file. Some research will be required.
Also, someone else might notice other things that I missed but need to
be updated. File is here:
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/gs4-2-ch3-styles-templates/view

--Jean


On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Martin Saffron martinsaff...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello

 I've uploaded an edited draft of GS4202.  In this version, I've made the all
 of the changes listed on the User Guide Tasks page
 (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks).
 The draft can be found here:
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/gs4203-stylesandtemplates/view

 I've also uploaded all the screen captures I have used.  They can be found
 here:
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/gs4201-3-screen-captures/screen_captures/view
 These images were captured from LO4.2 beta2 running on Windows 8.1 and were
 exported to PNG format using the GIMP.  Window borders have been cropped.

 If I have time this week, I will continue noting the changes introduced in
 LO4.2 and updating the User Guide Tasks page.

 Regards,

 Martin

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[libreoffice-documentation] When taking screenshots for LO user guides

2014-01-26 Thread Jean Weber
A reminder: when taking screenshots for use in LibreOffice user
guides, please use the US-English version of the software, NOT the
UK-English version, for consistency with the text, which is to be
written in US English.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Recent sales of LO user guides

2014-01-26 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I also feel that it's worth using the fund to get into places such as
 iBookstore or Amazon or anything like that, even if there is a
 reasonable set-up fee or a fee that is a percentage-of-sales.  Even if
 such places make a loss (as long as that loss is not huge and is well
 under over-all profits) at least it gets us out there into markets
 that would otherwise be difficult to advertise in.  After seeing your
 documentation there they might investigate further and then
 purchase/acquire the guides from elsewhere.

Money is not an issue about getting into those markets. Someone with
the time to do the work quickly, and some changes to the files (see my
other note on the topic), are the main issues. Also there is a delay
in getting books into those markets (outside our control), and with
our rapid publishing schedule many items have been superceded before
they get there.

 Any idea why the German Guides are so low?  Is the Lulu Store itself
 only in English?  Are the guides incomplete (ie only the Base Handbook
 available or somethign like that)?  Have the German guides only
 recently been offered through Lulu?

The only guide currently provided through Friends of OpenDocument on
Lulu is the Base Handbuch, because that is the only one the German
team have asked me to put there.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon

2014-01-26 Thread Jean Weber
It's not a formal vote. If someone has an objection to the proposed
copyright wording change, for a good reason, we certainly need to
discuss it and come to an agreement.

--Jean

On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hi :)
 +1
 from a lurker.

 I don't get a vote as i don't contribute to or do any work in the team
 itself, also i'm not a member of TDF.  Also i'm not sure if this is a
 formal vote or if a proposal needs a seconder but if it is and if
 it does then i would if i could.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 On 25 January 2014 23:28, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 As I mentioned in an earlier note, I have been looking into getting
 our user guides sold through Amazon
 and other venues, now that Lulu is not charging a fee for this.

 In order for our books to qualify, some minor changes are required to
 the files sent to Lulu. These changes do not need to be made to PDFs
 we distribute ourselves, but I would recommend we make the changes
 there too.

 For distribution through Amazon etc, the front cover of the book must
 include the name of the author of the book, and that name must match
 the name given in the copyright statement and in the metadata we
 provide to Lulu.

 I have been listing LibreOffice Documentation Team as the author in
 the metadata, and I propose to change the copyright statement in each
 book to read:

 This document is Copyright © 2014 by the LibreOffice Documentation
 Team. Contributors are listed below. You may distribute or modify it
 under the terms of either the GNU General Public License
 (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version 3 or later, or the
 Creative Commons Attribution License
 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/), version 3.0 or later.

 I, or Klaus-Jürgen or someone, need to add LibreOffice Documentation
 Team to the front cover design for v4.2, at least for the cover
 provided to Lulu.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Version 4.2 Getting Started Guide, Chapter 1

2014-01-26 Thread Jean Weber
I have made further edits to MartinS's revisions to Version 4.2
Getting Started Guide, Chapter 1. PeterS is replacing some screenshots
to match others in the chapter. We'll let you know when it's done.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Recent sales of LO user guides

2014-01-25 Thread Jean Weber
Friends of Open Document Inc is the publisher of the printed editions
of our user guides (through Lulu.com) and the custodian of income from
sales of PDFs through the Ubuntu store. I have posted their 6-month
interim accounts (July-Dec 2013) to their website. The page for
LibreOffice Docs is
http://www.friendsofopendocument.com/newsite/?page_id=549

A reminder: the purpose of publishing and selling printed copies is
not to raise money, but to provide a service to people who want them.
The purpose of selling PDFs through Ubuntu is to raise awareness of
our user guides. Some guides are also available through the iBookstore
(via Lulu, which produces them from the files we provide for printed
copies).

I have been looking into getting our user guides sold through Amazon
and other venues. In the past Lulu charged a fee for this, but that
has changed. I hope to be able to get the v4.2 and later books into
those outlets as we produce them.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon

2014-01-25 Thread Jean Weber
As I mentioned in an earlier note, I have been looking into getting
our user guides sold through Amazon
and other venues, now that Lulu is not charging a fee for this.

In order for our books to qualify, some minor changes are required to
the files sent to Lulu. These changes do not need to be made to PDFs
we distribute ourselves, but I would recommend we make the changes
there too.

For distribution through Amazon etc, the front cover of the book must
include the name of the author of the book, and that name must match
the name given in the copyright statement and in the metadata we
provide to Lulu.

I have been listing LibreOffice Documentation Team as the author in
the metadata, and I propose to change the copyright statement in each
book to read:

This document is Copyright © 2014 by the LibreOffice Documentation
Team. Contributors are listed below. You may distribute or modify it
under the terms of either the GNU General Public License
(http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version 3 or later, or the
Creative Commons Attribution License
(http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/), version 3.0 or later.

I, or Klaus-Jürgen or someone, need to add LibreOffice Documentation
Team to the front cover design for v4.2, at least for the cover
provided to Lulu.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Instructions for creating books

2014-01-25 Thread Jean Weber
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:41 PM, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 Hello Jean

 Could you please tell me or give me a link to the instructions on how to
 collate all the chapters into a guide and then publish the guide in ODT and
 PDF formats.

Chapter 2 of the Contributors Guide has instructions, but I need to
revisit it to see if it needs updating.

It describes the use of a Master Document for combining chapters into
a book, but I've found that with some books (GS and WG in particular)
I have fewer problems (especially with bad x-refs) if I use a
different method: simple copy and paste. AFAIK, the problem is not
with MDs but with the cruft in many of our old files. I hope that
after the cleanup Milos is doing, the cruft will be gone and the files
will behave themselves inside a MD. But I digress...

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started book for LO v4.2

2014-01-25 Thread Jean Weber
The Getting Started guide is, not surprisingly, the most popular book
we produce, with the Writer Guide running a close second.

PeterS, if you can update the chapters on Draw and Impress for the
Getting Started book, that would help move it along. And any other
chapters that might take your fancy. Perhaps Calc, since you've been
working on the Calc Guide?

MartinS, Thanks for your continuing work on this book.

JohnS, are you there? The chapter on Writer, perhaps?

Anyone else?

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Team leader?

2014-01-21 Thread Jean Weber
I will be travelling much of this year (nothing new there), so it would be
good If someone, or several people, would take more of an organising (aka
herding cats?) role in this group. And/or people need to do more
reviewing, editing, publishing, so I'm not the limiting factor. We want and
need high quality docs, so we want and need more people to contribute to
them in substantive ways.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] OSX version 10.9.1

2014-01-18 Thread Jean Weber
Oh, very funny. So Ubuntu puts them in their App Store? Why should Apple
classify them that way? Why do you assume no one has already checked on
this with Apple? You blither on about so many things you apparently know
nothing about or haven't bothered to fact check. It's really tiresome.

--Jean

On Saturday, January 18, 2014, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 I thought i saw the guides in the Ubuntu Apps Store but i guess it's
 just my eyes playing tricks on me.  Since they are not apps they
 couldn't possibly be in there right??
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 On 17 January 2014 21:28, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com javascript:;
 wrote:
  Tom,
  User guides are not apps. Several of our user guides are (or were) in
  the iBooks store, because Lulu.com will put them there at no charge to
  us. However, the rapidity of user guide production for updates to the
  software, and the slowness of getting books into the iBooks store,
  means it's not a very useful exercise nor one I pursue.
 
  --Jean
 
 
  On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Tom Davies 
  tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukjavascript:;
 wrote:
  Hi :)
  I guess the discussions mailing list and BoD are discussing all this.
 
  It might be interesting for some of us to go over there and find out
  how much it costs to get in, would each of the Guides be counted as a
  separate app?  How much do other apps charge for their guides.  etc.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] OSX version 10.9.1

2014-01-18 Thread Jean Weber
On Saturday, January 18, 2014, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:

 Hello Italo

 I have installed a few applications where there is a gateway issue, that
 is the application would not install. The only way round this problem is to
 change the security settings in Settings  Security  Privacy. You select
 “Anywhere”. After installation of the application, you go back to the
 previous security setting. The default setting is “Mac App Store”. I have
 my MacBook Pro set to “Mac App Store and identified developers”.

 Initial installation of LO, I had to use the setting “Anywhere”, but the
 LO upgrades have installed without any problem because I use “Mac App Store
 and identified developers” as security setting. That to me indicates that
 LO is an identified developer. Is this true?

 Regards

 PeterS

 Peter Schofield
 psaut...@libreoffice.org javascript:;


Thanks, Peter. That probably explains why I've had no further problems
installing LO; I'd forgotten that I set my security the same way quite some
time ago. BTW, my assumption (not yet fact checked) is that once someone
with an admin account accepts an app on a machine, the
developer is identified on that machine for purposes of upgrades to that
app.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: OSX version 10.9.1

2014-01-17 Thread Jean Weber
Tom,
User guides are not apps. Several of our user guides are (or were) in
the iBooks store, because Lulu.com will put them there at no charge to
us. However, the rapidity of user guide production for updates to the
software, and the slowness of getting books into the iBooks store,
means it's not a very useful exercise nor one I pursue.

--Jean


On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hi :)
 I guess the discussions mailing list and BoD are discussing all this.

 It might be interesting for some of us to go over there and find out
 how much it costs to get in, would each of the Guides be counted as a
 separate app?  How much do other apps charge for their guides.  etc.

 Regards from
 Tom :)

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[libreoffice-documentation] First pass editing Base Guide Ch2

2014-01-16 Thread Jean Weber
I've had a first pass through Chapter 2 of the Base Guide, doing
consistency cleanup of layout and styles, and put the result on
ODFAuthors and the wiki. I intend to work on editing the content over
the next week, but I may do consistency cleanup of Ch3 first.
Meanwhile, I've uploaded Dan's copy of Ch3 to the wiki, along with my
edited version of Ch1. I have also given Chs 2  3 names that fit our
naming convention.

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-guide/draft-4.x
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Guide

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[libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.2.0 RC2 available

2014-01-12 Thread Jean Weber
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From: Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com
Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:10 AM
Subject: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.2.0 RC2 available
To: libreoffice-dev libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org, Libreoffice
ln10 l...@global.libreoffice.org, proje...@global.libreoffice.org,
libreOffice-QA libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org


Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 4.2.0. The upcoming 4.2.0 will bring new
features and lots of bugfixes. Check out
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2 for an
(incomplete and work-in-progress) list of the new features.
Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.2.0 RC2 is not been flagged as ready
for production use yet, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.1.4 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

LibreOffice 4.2.0 RC2 is also available in a 64bit version for Mac OS
X 10.8 (or newer)

Developers and QA might also be interested in the symbol server for
windows debug information (see the release notes linked below for
details). Beginning with RC2, the debug symbols are also source-indexed.

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.2.0 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.2.0/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

On behalf of the Community,

Christian
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Microsoft Migration Guide

2014-01-08 Thread Jean Weber
The term Migration Guide seems to be used around the project to
refer to two types of documents. One is more a marketing document
providing guidance for people and companies considering changing from
Microsoft Office to LibreOffice. The other is more of a user guide
intended to help people who have been using MSO and need to learn how
to use LO. The latter is the guide that is mentioned in the Docs wiki.
It probably needs a different name to distinguish it from the
marketing document. It is, in a way, a followup to the marketing
document, but aimed very much at people actually using LO. They often
think Oh, I can't do X with LO when in fact they can but they
haven't discovered the different ways that LO does some things and the
different terminology used in a few places.

Back in OpenOffice 2.x days, we had such a document. Its contents list
could be improved upon, but the general concept I think is an
important one to help people make the transition. It needs to be
written by someone or several people who are familiar with current or
recent versions of MSO from a user's point of view, the terminology
used, and the placement of menus and toolbars for doing common tasks.

You can find the OOo book here:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Migration_Guide

David, I really encourage you to pursue this, though I understand that
you might want to start with something less ambitious.

Regards, Jean


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:32 PM, David Virden dvirden2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm in El Paso, TX, USA (UTC-7). The documentation section on the website
 mentioned that they needed someone to create a Microsoft Migration Guide,
 which is where I got the idea. However, it might be wise to start slower. It
 looks like the How To section needs some work. I could write an article on
 how to create a newsletter use LibreOffice, as well as other how-to topics
 when they come to me.

 David


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi David, I think that your proposal is extremely interesting, although
 I would connect it more to marketing than to documentation (as Jane has
 suggested). What about having a hangout to discuss it, and put it in TDF
 contest? I am based in Italy (UTC+1). Where are you based?

 On 08/01/14 15:16, David Virden wrote:
  I'm currently a technical writer. I've been using Microsoft since its
  infancy and switched to LibreOffice a few months ago. I think it would
  be the easiest way for me to help, since writing it would help me learn
  the software as much as anything else. However, is there something I can
  work on that would be more beneficial for you guys? I can also do
  Spanish to English translations.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Greetings from a New Member

2014-01-08 Thread Jean Weber
Our biggest ongoing requirement is for people to update the user
guides to keep up with changes in the software, but there are many
other smaller writing projects that need doing. Updating includes
researching, writing, reviewing (mostly checking against the software
to ensure that instructions are correct and up to date), and editing.

Smaller writing projects include the FAQs and short pieces for the
Docs blog, but there are other possibilities as well. I recommend
looking around the Docs wiki to get an idea of what we have and what's
on the wish list. You might have some good ideas for things to fill in
the gaps, expand upon a topic area, reach out to a new audience...

--Jean


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 7:27 AM, ebotts eric.bo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 Jean Weber already set me up with an ODFAuthors user account, so no worries
 there.

 I'm twenty-eight and working toward a masters of fine arts degree in
 nonfiction writing at George Mason University in Virginia, USA; I earned my
 bachelors of fine arts in creative writing at the Pennsylvania State
 University. I write mostly personal essays (a term that often baffles
 people at first--think of the nonfiction writing of authors like David
 Sedaris, David Foster Wallace, and Virginia Woolf; that's what I aim for)
 and some journalism. I also write poetry and a bit of fiction.

 I have a good bit of experience in tutoring, editing, copy-editing,
 technical writing, and some in teaching, and I have my associates degree in
 multimedia graphic design, which includes Web and print design, as well as
 3D modeling and animation (truth be told, though, I mostly just stick to
 print media).

 I'm largely interested in giving back to the LO community because of the
 political implications of open source software and the free sharing of
 information. It seems to me that free/open information and software means
 giving knowledge and power to people who may be otherwise underprivileged.
 It's also a way of bucking a global economic system that favors unethical
 business practices. Oh yeah, and I don't like paying for software that
 looks pretty but slows my computer to a crawl.

 Anyway, I don't want to bore/annoy anyone with a long political tirade, so
 I'll just leave it at that. I look forward very much to working with the LO
 documentation team, and I hope that I can be of some use to you.

 Best regards,
 Eric Botts




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Microsoft Migration Guide

2014-01-07 Thread Jean Weber
Someone on the marketing list may be working on this. You might check
there as well. Unless you're the person who expressed interest on the
other list?

--Jean


On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:45 AM, David Virden dvirden2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I've been on the mailing list for several months, but I don't believe I've
 introduced myself. My name is David and I would like to work on the
 Microsoft Migration Guide. Is anyone working on this?

 David

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Uploading Base Chapters ready for review

2013-12-29 Thread Jean Weber
Dan,

I've got a bit lost in the various Getting Started with Base files
you have been producing lately. Please help me sort this out so I'm
sure I've got it right.

This file's title page says it is Chapter 1 of the Base Guide. An
earlier version showed it as being in the Getting Started Guide but
was essentially the same file. If this one is in fact for the Base
Guide, I suggest we rename it Introducing Base or something similar,
to minimize the confusion. Would also help to use the file
naming/numbering system to make it clear to all which file is intended
for which book.

If this is for the Base Guide, does that mean that I was mistaken
about the earlier version being for the Getting Started guide? Are you
planning to produce a replacement chapter (as I recall you mentioning
earlier this year), or do you want to keep the existing one, just
updated?

--Jean



On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:
The folder for these files is here.
 www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-guide/draft-4.x/

 The files are:
 Getting Started with Base
 Data Input and Removal: Tables

 Both of these have had their screenshots updated for 4.2.0 already. I have
 externally published both chapters. I have not updated the wiki because I am
 getting very slow Internet service right now. (Probably many more people are
 accessing it causing the slow down.)

 Later today I will be working on chapter 4: Data Input and Removal: Forms.
 Much of the material for this new chapter can be copied and pasted from the
 Data Input and Removal chapter. So, this chapter may well be ready by the
 end of January.

 Since I use Calibre for creating ePUB formated files, I have learned that
 the last two versions of it has editing abilities that are better than
 Sigil. Sigil allows the searching and replace for only one internal xhtml
 file. Calibre can do this for all of the xhtml files at one time. This can
 also be done with regex expressions as well. Some things can be done better
 with Calibre, and other things can still be done with Calibre. I still have
 some experimenting to do as well as learning regex.

 --Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Uploading Base Chapters ready for review

2013-12-29 Thread Jean Weber
I had forgotten that discussion (my memory is full :-) ) but it's
coming back to me and if I took the time to search my email I'd
probably find it.

I agree that reusing the same text for both chapters is a good
approach, and if that's Dan's idea I'm fine with it. However, I'm not
in favour of trying to do it automatically. That's technically
possible but messy in a volunteer situation.

--Jean


On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi :)
 I thought there was some discussion about whether to have the chapter
 identical in the GS Guide and as the 1st main chapter of the Base
 Guide so that editing one would affect the other automatically.  I
 just wasn't sure whether it had been decided if that was a great idea
 or awkward.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 On 29 December 2013 08:06, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan,

 I've got a bit lost in the various Getting Started with Base files
 you have been producing lately. Please help me sort this out so I'm
 sure I've got it right.

 This file's title page says it is Chapter 1 of the Base Guide. An
 earlier version showed it as being in the Getting Started Guide but
 was essentially the same file. If this one is in fact for the Base
 Guide, I suggest we rename it Introducing Base or something similar,
 to minimize the confusion. Would also help to use the file
 naming/numbering system to make it clear to all which file is intended
 for which book.

 If this is for the Base Guide, does that mean that I was mistaken
 about the earlier version being for the Getting Started guide? Are you
 planning to produce a replacement chapter (as I recall you mentioning
 earlier this year), or do you want to keep the existing one, just
 updated?

 --Jean



 On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:
The folder for these files is here.
 www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-guide/draft-4.x/

 The files are:
 Getting Started with Base
 Data Input and Removal: Tables

 Both of these have had their screenshots updated for 4.2.0 already. I have
 externally published both chapters. I have not updated the wiki because I am
 getting very slow Internet service right now. (Probably many more people are
 accessing it causing the slow down.)

 Later today I will be working on chapter 4: Data Input and Removal: Forms.
 Much of the material for this new chapter can be copied and pasted from the
 Data Input and Removal chapter. So, this chapter may well be ready by the
 end of January.

 Since I use Calibre for creating ePUB formated files, I have learned that
 the last two versions of it has editing abilities that are better than
 Sigil. Sigil allows the searching and replace for only one internal xhtml
 file. Calibre can do this for all of the xhtml files at one time. This can
 also be done with regex expressions as well. Some things can be done better
 with Calibre, and other things can still be done with Calibre. I still have
 some experimenting to do as well as learning regex.

 --Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Version 4.2 Getting Started Guide

2013-12-29 Thread Jean Weber
Thanks for this work, Martin. I've just had a quick look at your
additions to the User Guide Tasks page, which are just what we need. I
just hope other people pay attention to them, as well as doing their
own reviewing, when updating the chapter files.

If you, or anyone else, want to start doing updates to the chapter
files, you can use the 4.0 files from here:
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-lo-4.0
or from here: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Getting_Started_with_LibreOffice

Both sets have had Milos's style cleanups applied.

Please put the edited files here (as you did for chapter 1):
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2

--Jean


On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Martin Saffron martinsaff...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello

 I've recently had time to look at sections of the Getting Started guide with
 a view to updating it to the LO 4.2 branch.

 I've taken a look at the first three chapters (of the most recent published
 versions edited by Jean) and noted the changes brought about in the Windows
 8.1 version of LO 4.2 beta 2.

 I did not edit any of the guides directly and upload them as I was unsure
 whether to edit the recent versions published by Jean or to make edits to
 the auto-formatted versions submitted to the mailing list by Milos.  There
 is also the fact that the stable LO 4.2 release may introduce further
 changes.

 Instead, I've made a detailed list of the aspects that will need updating
 upon release of LO 4.2 and noted some of them here:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks

 Unfortunately, in submitting the form (as a test) before  adding all the
 notes, I have been throttled so am unable to make further changes until the
 anti-spam time limit expires.  I have attached an ODT file containing all
 the changes so perhaps someone can update the page on my behalf.

 I'll continue looking at the Getting Started guide when I get time (leaving
 chapters 4, 6, 7 and 8 as noted on the User Guide tasks page above).

 Merry Christmas,

 Martin

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[libreoffice-documentation] Revised Calc v4.1 Ch6 (Printing, Exporting, Emailing) published

2013-12-28 Thread Jean Weber
Thanks to PeterS for his work on this chapter. I've done some
extensive copyediting and published the result to ODFAuthors and the
Docs wiki.

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1/cg4-1-ch6-printing-exporting-emailing/view

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 4.1.4

2013-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
In case you're not subscribed to the announce list. --Jean

Berlin, December 18, 2013 - The Document Foundation (TDF) announces
LibreOffice 4.1.4, for Windows, MacOS X and Linux, the fourth minor
release of the LibreOffice 4.1 family and the first also suggested for
corporate deployments (with professional support from certified developers).

LibreOffice 4.1.4 is available for immediate download from the following
link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/. Change logs are available at
the following links:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.4/RC1 (fixed in
4.1.4.1) and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.4/RC2
(fixed in 4.1.4.2).

Short link to The Document Foundation blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-sv.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Help re digital signatures?

2013-12-13 Thread Jean Weber
Reposting this with a different title in hope that someone with a
digital signature will notice and can advise whether our writeup
(which appears in most of the books, though possibly worded slightly
differently) covers the topic correctly and sufficiently completely.

--Jean

-- Forwarded message --
From: PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org
Date: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:26 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Guide 4.1 New Version
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org


Hello

New version of Calc Guide Chapter 6 Printing, Exporting and Emailing
now in the Drafts LO4.1 folder ready for review and comment.

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1/cg-chap-06-printing-exporting-and-emailing/view

The screenshots have been replaced and the text rewritten to correct
omissions and errors.

Please check the Digital Signature section because I do not have a
digital certificate to fully check the procedure for digitally signing
a document.

Regards

PeterS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Help re digital signatures?

2013-12-13 Thread Jean Weber
Try it now. I've changed the permissions on it.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Marc Grober m...@interak.com wrote:
 I would look it over,  but the file is password protected

 On 12/13/13, 2:40 PM, Jean Weber wrote:
 Reposting this with a different title in hope that someone with a
 digital signature will notice and can advise whether our writeup
 (which appears in most of the books, though possibly worded slightly
 differently) covers the topic correctly and sufficiently completely.

 --Jean

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org
 Date: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:26 PM
 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Guide 4.1 New Version
 To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org


 Hello

 New version of Calc Guide Chapter 6 Printing, Exporting and Emailing
 now in the Drafts LO4.1 folder ready for review and comment.

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1/cg-chap-06-printing-exporting-and-emailing/view

 The screenshots have been replaced and the text rewritten to correct
 omissions and errors.

 Please check the Digital Signature section because I do not have a
 digital certificate to fully check the procedure for digitally signing
 a document.

 Regards

 PeterS




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Guide 4.1 New Version

2013-12-08 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:21 PM, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 Hello

 New file for Chapter 5 Using Graphics in Calc now in the Drafts LO4.1 folder
 on the ODF Authors website. The cross reference on Page 10 has been
 corrected.

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1/cg-chap-05-using-graphics-in-calc-1/view

 I will be publishing this later today, and also replacing the chapter
 in the full book (at the same time as correcting the missing x-ref
 errors reported by a reader).

I have now published Ch5, and also corrected and replaced (on
ODFAuthors and the wiki) Chs 3, 9, 10, all of which had missing
x-refs.

I ran out of time to final-check and upload the full book (containing
Peter's replacement Ch5), but I should do that today.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Guide 4.1 New Version

2013-12-08 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:08 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:21 PM, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 Hello

 New file for Chapter 5 Using Graphics in Calc now in the Drafts LO4.1 folder
 on the ODF Authors website. The cross reference on Page 10 has been
 corrected.

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1/cg-chap-05-using-graphics-in-calc-1/view

 I will be publishing this later today, and also replacing the chapter
 in the full book (at the same time as correcting the missing x-ref
 errors reported by a reader).

 I have now published Ch5, and also corrected and replaced (on
 ODFAuthors and the wiki) Chs 3, 9, 10, all of which had missing
 x-refs.

 I ran out of time to final-check and upload the full book (containing
 Peter's replacement Ch5), but I should do that today.

 --Jean

The full Calc Guide v4.1, containing Peter's replacement Ch5, is now
on ODFAuthors and the wiki. Not sure when I'll get the printed edition
updated.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Cleaned up Getting Started files

2013-12-07 Thread Jean Weber
Thanks to the work by Milos Sramek, we now have a set of Getting
Started v4.0 files that have been cleaned of manual formatting (as
described in some previous notes on this list).

I have now made some further tweaks to those files, because I found
some minor problems when checking them, and I have replaced the
published ODT files on the ODFAuthors website and the TDF/LO wiki.

If before today you have taken copies of any of the GS4.0 files to
update to v4.2, please get a fresh cleaned copy to work on instead.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Cleaned up Getting Started files

2013-12-07 Thread Jean Weber
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks to the work by Milos Sramek, we now have a set of Getting
 Started v4.0 files that have been cleaned of manual formatting (as
 described in some previous notes on this list).

 I have now made some further tweaks to those files, because I found
 some minor problems when checking them, and I have replaced the
 published ODT files on the ODFAuthors website and the TDF/LO wiki.

 If before today you have taken copies of any of the GS4.0 files to
 update to v4.2, please get a fresh cleaned copy to work on instead.



This work is all behind the scenes so I have not replaced the PDFs
on the wiki.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Version 4.2 Getting started guide, Chapter 1

2013-12-07 Thread Jean Weber
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Milos Sramek sramek.mi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dňa 2013-12-07 02:30, Jean Weber wrote / napísal(a):

 please, do not use that old version, because meanwhile I've created a new
 one: http://ubuntuone.com/0wKYgmWPo7jM03xNeUXqSU.

What is different or new in your new version? I have already gone
through the earlier version and found and corrected some things that I
had not noticed before.

Also, the clean files have incorrect outline heading levels; they
have the ones for a *book* file, not a *chapter* file, so the tables
of contents are wrong if you update them in a chapter. And the clean
files have incorrect spacing of the chapter title, because they are
using the spacing for a book file, not a chapter file. I fixed these
things too.

I can do all of this again if necessary, if the new set of clean
files has important changes in it.

 Do you plan to clean up other books as well?

 I will help, of course. I can clean up also other guides - just let me know
 where to start.

Writer Guide, please.

 What I did was in fact quite simple. I've just changed the
 direct bold to either OOoStrongEmphasis or OOoMenuPath (by guessing which
 one) and similarly italics to OOoEmphasis of OOoKeyStroke and then run the
 script. Maybe, more shoud be done than this, for example there are two sets
 of styles defined now - the OOo styles and the LO styles.

We are working on a new template. Our plan is to use the built-in
styles as much as possible, so we plan to replace all the OOo-styles
and LO-styles if we can. Several translators have asked for this
change, and I think it will help when exporting to ePUB and other
formats. Will this also be better for your use? Or do you think it
might cause problems for you?

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Mistakes on Calc User Guide

2013-12-07 Thread Jean Weber
Thank you! I will correct these and reissue the PDF.

--Jean

On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Masrosid Dua masro...@ymail.com wrote:
 I found some “Error: Reference source not found” on LibreOffice 4.1 Calc 
 Guide(CG41-CalcGuideLO.pdf). For example on page 88, 251, and 274. I don't 
 how to fix it. I don't know what the correction should be.

 Muhamad Abdul Rosid

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Guide 4.1 New Version

2013-12-07 Thread Jean Weber
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:21 PM, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 Hello

 New file for Chapter 5 Using Graphics in Calc now in the Drafts LO4.1 folder
 on the ODF Authors website. The cross reference on Page 10 has been
 corrected.

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1/cg-chap-05-using-graphics-in-calc-1/view

I will be publishing this later today, and also replacing the chapter
in the full book (at the same time as correcting the missing x-ref
errors reported by a reader).

Peter and Tim, I am amused that neither of you noticed that the cover
page of the revised chapter showed Chapter n not Chapter 5.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Version 4.2 Getting started guide, Chapter 1

2013-12-06 Thread Jean Weber
Milos, my apologies for not paying more attention to your earlier note
and replying then. I am now downloading your cleaned files, which
should indeed be VERY helpful to us and save us a lot of work. I'll
put them on the ODFAuthors site and let the team know to use them as
the starting point when updating the Getting Started book.

Do you plan to clean up other books as well?

--Jean

On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Milos Sramek sramek.mi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Martin,

 as I have already informed on the libreoffice-documentation list, we
 currently translate the Getting started guide to Slovak. Currently, about
 50% of the text is translated.

 We decided to use OmegaT for translation, since it should enable, thanks to
 its translation memory, translate new guides using the old translated
 guides. We decided to do that this way, since we expected that one day
 somebody will start with the 4.2 version :).

 The problem with the guide is, that the text is really poorly formatted - it
 uses a lot of useless direct formatting, which probably reflects its long
 history. Thus, in the original form it is not translatable by OmegaT. To do
 that, we had to clean the formatting, which took us tens of hours. Since
 CTRM-M does not in fact clear direct formatting, the work was done partially
 manually and partially by a script on the XML level. I've sent a message
 about that to the list a few months ago, unfortunately with no reaction:
 http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/msg16573.html

 In the cleaned version all formating is done by means of styles - there is
 no direct formating used. Otherwise, the documents are identical. If you use
 the cleaned version, it would enable to me, and also to other translators,
 to move smoothly to 4.2 - something which is otherwise not possible.

 I will be happy to send to you the cleaned version - that one referred to in
 my older post is not actual anymore.

 Best

 Milos



 Dňa 2013-12-06 20:02, Martin Saffron wrote / napísal(a):

 Hello

 I've started to look at sections of the Getting Started guide with a view
 to updating it to the 4.2x branch.

 I've made minor, preliminary edits to GS4001 and uploaded the chapter to
 the ODF Authors site for review and comment.  It can be found here:

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/gs4201-introducing-libreoffice/at_download/file

 I've identified a few aspects that may need updating upon release of LO
 4.2 and noted them in the document.  I also tried to note them at
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2, but it appears that
 I'm unable to save changes.

 Time permitting, I will continue through the Getting Started guide
 (skipping the chapters 4,6,7 and 8).

 Regards,

 Martin



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Translating French Math FAQs

2013-12-03 Thread Jean Weber
I have little to do with the FAQs, so I'm not the person to answer most 
questions on that topic. --Jean

 On 4 Dec 2013, at 2:11, Glen Reesor g...@jenniferandglen.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Jean,
 I just realized I should have directed my question to someone in particular 
 :-). Also, a better wording of my question is below:
 
 The first link I've created for the English Math FAQ is:
 
 [[ How do I put a left bracket without including a right one? | How do I put 
 a left bracket without including a right one? ]]
 
 
 Should I instead use something like this?
 
 [[ Faq/Math/001 | How do I put a left bracket without including a right one? 
 ]]
 
 And then the next one would be Faq/Math/002?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Glen
 
 On 2013-12-01 12:21, Glen Reesor wrote:
 I have added one entry to the English Math FAQ (still getting throttled--but 
 that's another issue)
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Mathbr
 
 
 Is there a standard for what to name new pages in the markup? For example, 
 the French markup looks like this:
 br
 [[FR/FAQ/Math/001 | Comment mettre une parenthèse à gauche sans en mettre 
 une à droite ?]]
 
 
 But I have used the title of the page as the first field in the [[ | ]] 
 markup as shown below:
 
 
 [[ How do I put a left bracket without including a right one? | How do I put 
 a left bracket without including a right one? ]]
 
 
 Is there a preference between the two?
 
 
 Thanks.
 - Glen
 
 
   

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Release 4.2 icon set

2013-12-02 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:20 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Jean,
 Just had a thought on this subject. Are we staying with Galaxy, which I see
 is no longer listed as Galaxy(default), or are we going with Tango?
 I know we had this discussion earlier this year, but is it now time to bite
 the bullet?

 On another point, is the template being changed from the LO3.4 template?.
 Again, that was mentioned earlier in the year I think.

John,
Thanks for the nudge about the new template, which I have been working
on and should get to the stage of making available to all. Okay,
that's my priority task for December. I *will* get this done.
Meanwhile, please carry on using the old one.

As for the icon set, yes it probably is time to make the change from
Galaxy to Tango, unless someone knows a good reason why we should not.
(A good reason being something like: the hypothetical situation of the
Design Team seriously considering changing to yet another icon set.
Note: I have no idea if that is under consideration; I haven't been
following design discussions. But might be worth checking if something
dramatic is coming up on the design side.)

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice books discount price

2013-12-02 Thread Jean Weber
Lulu.com, where the printed copies of the LibreOffice user guides are
published and sold, is having a sale: 30% off until midnight on
Thursday, December 5, US east coast time.

The code is: LULUVIP6131

Direct link to LO books: http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/opendocument

Note: the 30% off discount coupon is applied to the prices shown as
already being 30% off the List price. And you have to scroll down a
bit to find the Getting Started Guide. There are 7 books in total for
LO 4.x.

Please spread the word, including on other lists, social media, etc.
(Of course, PDFs are always free from our website and wiki.)

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Copy documentation from OpenOffice.org?

2013-11-30 Thread Jean Weber
Tom, what you suspect about the authors' intentions, and your
opinion that it's a risk-analysis issue rather than a legal one, is
not good enough. Whether you are correct or not, ignoring the
legalities is not acceptable behaviour as far as The Document
Foundation is concerned.

I suggest you stop offering sweeping opinions on legal topics that
even you admit you know little or nothing about.

--Jean



On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi :)
 +1
 That sounds more likely.  In my last post i thought you had all gone
 mad or something.  Ok, so i haven't read the PDL but i still see this
 as more of a risk-analysis problem than a must read all the fine
 print legal issue.  Also i suspect that the other authors were much
 the same attitude as you  me = keen for it to reach as wide an
 audience as possible and not particularly worried about much else.
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 On 30 November 2013 13:56, C smau...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi :)
 Ahhh, i didn't realise PDL=Public Domain License! i think that makes
 it easier doesn't it?

 No permission whatsoever is needed to copy or use public domain
 works. Public domain material is available for anyone to use for any
 purpose, private and commercial. Public domain works can serve as the
 foundation for new creative works. Public domain works can also be
 copied and distributed without any permission or paying royalties

 and this
 http://copyright.universityofcalifornia.edu/publicdomain.html

 http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Public_domain

 So, as long as we DON'T give any credit to the original sources and
 authors then we are well within the PDL.  If we DO mention the
 source(s) then we are giving them more respect than they asked for.  I
 can't really imagine anyone taking us to court over that, or even
 grumbling about it!
 Regards from
 Tom :)



 Nope, PDL is not Public Domain License... it is the Public
 Documentation license which was written by Sun Microsystems a very
 long time ago. See: http://www.openoffice.org/licenses/PDL.html

 So basically, your assessment of PDL above is incorrect.  You DO have
 to give credit as detailed in the PDL.

 Clayton

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Copy documentation from OpenOffice.org?

2013-11-30 Thread Jean Weber
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:59 PM, C smau...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's not about court cases, it's about respecting the wishes and
 expectations of people who did contribute under a specific license (or
 no license).

Totally agree with Clayton about that.


 If we treat legacy documentation content that does not have any
 explicit license as being under PDL (as much as we may not like PDL),
 we should be within reason of the original expectations of the
 original authors.  This is compatible with the license statements on
 the AOO Wiki today.

 If the PDL is incompatible with the CC-BY-SA licenses in use for
 LibreOffice, then maybe instead of direct copy/paste, use the content
 as a starting point... rewrite and update the content to make it
 relevant to LibreOffice. Does this idea still respect the original
 author's intentions as well as the expectations of anyone who
 contributed to the FAQs since they were added to the Wiki?


I don't know whether PDL is compatiable with CC-BY-SA. Whether it is
or not, I think Clayton's suggestion is best: instead of directly
copying the content on the AOO wiki, use it as a starting point and
rewrite and update it as needed for LO. That also has the advantage of
forcing us to review the material to make sure it's up to date for LO.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: [libreoffice-projects] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.4 RC1 available

2013-11-30 Thread Jean Weber
May be of interest to some on the Docs team. Note that on Windows,
this RC will replace your 4.1.3 installation unless you know how to
install it separately.

Beta1 of LO v4.2 is also available, as I posted here recently.

--Jean


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From: Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com
Date: Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 4.1.4. The upcoming 4.1.4 will be the fourth
in a sequence of frequent bugfix releases for our feature-packed 4.1
line. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1.4 RC1 is not been flagged as ready
for production use yet, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.1.3 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.4 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.4/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

On behalf of the Community,

Christian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide chapters published

2013-11-28 Thread Jean Weber
I have today published all the outstanding chapters of Calc, even
though some still need further review and updates. (Everything always
needs further review.)

If you're working on a chapter now, one of two things will happen: if
the changes are corrections of errors, I'll republish the corrected
chapter. If the changes are improvements, they may be republished or
they may be held for the next iteration of the book, which may be v4.2
but is more likely to be v4.3 since we tend to skip a point release.

I am now compiling the full book, with intention of publishing it
within the next few days.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide (full book) now available

2013-11-28 Thread Jean Weber
Bruce,
I wrote to you the day before yesterday about the Calc Guide, in
response to a private note from you. Among other things, I mentioned
that I am located in eastern Australia, Brisbane time zone (GMT+10).
However, I do not talk to anyone on the telephone except in very
unusual circumstances; sorry.

In case you can't find the note I sent you, I will resend it.

--Jean


On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Bruce Martin brucemarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Jean:

 Thank you for the links to thew WIKI stuff.
 What I had seen tas a comment in regards to Calc, chapter 14 and the
 graphics issues. However, from what I can see cursorially, there is no
 indication if chapter 14 and the Calc .ODT instructions are really one and
 the same, or if the Calc section comprises more than one chapter, or less
 than one chapter.

 I see you are located in Germany. given it is 8:16 AM here in Montreal, I
 guess I would add 6 hours, making it 14:00 there?

 I wonder, for a quicker start if I could get a phone number to call you, as
 there are a lot of minor questions that I thinking could be faster cleared
 in a voice chat.

 My return email address is brucemarti...@gmail.com. In the interim, I will
 check on the list of 30 countries I have in my international long distance
 package with Videotron (local cable provider) and Germany is included. That
 service cost me a paltry 3 cents a minute, so the call would be on me. (I
 also have a retired friend in Mexico, which is why I got that package, and I
 chat back and forth several times a week ongoing.)


 On 11/26/2013 01:44 AM, Jean Weber wrote:

 Have fun finding all the errors I missed (or that I introduced when
 compiling the book).


 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/draw-guide/published-lo-4.1/dg4-1-draw-guide-full-book-pdf/view

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/draw-guide/published-lo-4.1/dg4-1-draw-guide-full-book/view

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Draw_Guide

 Printed edition coming soon.

 A big round of applause to PeterS for his work on this book.

 --Jean



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide chapters published

2013-11-28 Thread Jean Weber
As soon as I get the Calc Guide published (this weekend or sooner), I
will write a post about the full set. Thanks for the reminder to do
that (sometimes I get busy and forget). BTW, one reason I wanted to
get the Calc Guide out now, rather than later, was thinking about
people buying gifts at this time of year.

--Jean


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 28/11/13 09:11, Jean Weber wrote:

 I am now compiling the full book, with intention of publishing it
 within the next few days.

 Joan, what about a recap announcement of the guides available for
 LibreOffice? Books, by the way, make a nice Xmas present, for those
 focused on technology.

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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 4.2.0 beta1 available for testing

2013-11-26 Thread Jean Weber
I'd like to encourage people on the Docs list, if you're not working
on the Calc 4.1 Guide or one of the books on Base (or even if you
are), to download and test LibreOffice 4.2.0 beta1. You will be
helping QA (by testing and reporting bugs) and, at the same time,
learning what features need to be written up for the next iteration of
the user guides.

To get the beta, go to http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ and click
on Pre-releases: which is several lines down from the big green
Main installer button.

This is the first of two betas  (and thus a LibreOfficeDev build) and
can be installed alongside the stable version.

See https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.2#4.2.0_release
for the complete schedule.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Translating French Math FAQs

2013-11-25 Thread Jean Weber
Reposting this to the list with a relevant subject line so it doesn't
get lost in discussion of Draw Guide. Also copying Sophie for info of
French team.

Glen Reesor g...@jenniferandglen.ca wrote,
I will work on translating the French Math FAQs to English. By the
way, I'm not sure how to notify the French team I'll be working on
this.

- Glen

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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide (full book) now available

2013-11-25 Thread Jean Weber
Have fun finding all the errors I missed (or that I introduced when
compiling the book).

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/draw-guide/published-lo-4.1/dg4-1-draw-guide-full-book-pdf/view
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/draw-guide/published-lo-4.1/dg4-1-draw-guide-full-book/view
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Draw_Guide

Printed edition coming soon.

A big round of applause to PeterS for his work on this book.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide v4.1 Chapters 5 6

2013-11-24 Thread Jean Weber
I have updated Calc Guide Chs 56 following Martin Saffron's review
for v4.1 and published them on the wiki and here:
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1/

PeterS, if you have already started on either of those, your work was
likely to supercede mine anyway (especially with illustrations that
need replacing), so I don't think the minor potential duplication of
effort is a problem.

I have also moved other v4.1 chapter files from their previous
locations to that folder.

IMO, finishing Chapter 14 (Customizing) and Appendix B (Calc
Functions) are the highest priority items on the updating list. They
are here:
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide

2013-11-23 Thread Jean Weber
Chapters 9, 10, 11 of Draw Guide v4.1 are now published. Peter, I made
some minor changes, including to the chapter number on the title page
and in the file name of Ch11, and several small edits to the Tip
mentioned by Tim.

I am hoping to compile the full guide soon. Meanwhile, if anyone spots
any errors or has questions about the chapters, do speak up!

--Jean


On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Peter,
 I plan to check and publish these last three chapters today or
 tomorrow and then compile the book. Great work!

 Are you going to work on Calc Guide updates for v4.1 now? I've got
 some of the later chapters in progress (should be finished soon), but
 quite a few have been done... enough to keep you busy for awhile
 anyway.

 --Jean


 On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:41 PM, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 Hello

 Version 4.1 of the Draw Guide Chapter 11 Advanced Draw Techniques is now in
 the Drafts LO4.1 folder on the ODF Authors website ready for review and
 comment.

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/draw-guide/draft-lo4.1/dg-ch11-advanced-draw-techniques/view

 That is the last chapter and version 4.1 is now complete.

 Regards

 PeterS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Chapter 14, Customizing Calc

2013-11-23 Thread Jean Weber
This file includes Mark Morin's updates and suggested enhancements. I
have annotated some of it. IMO most of the additional material should
not go into this chapter, but it could be included in other chapters
of the Calc Guide or Getting Started or perhaps go into one or more
stand-alone tutorials. Thanks, Mark, for all your work.
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/feedback/cg-ch14-customizing/view

My revision of this chapter, incorporating some of Mark's suggestions
(particularly for new options) is here:
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1/cg-ch14-customizing-calc/view
A few questions remain, which I hope PeterS can deal with when he does
his pass through this chapter.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Version 4.1 Calc Guide, Chapter 5

2013-11-21 Thread Jean Weber
Thanks, Martin. We haven't finished this book, so this is a very good
time for including minor changes before final publishing.

PeterS, if you're going to work on this book, I'll leave this to you
to implement whatever is needed since you are planning to replace many
of the screenshots anyway.

--Jean


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Martin Saffron martinsaff...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello

 I have taken a look at chapter 5 of the Calc guide (Using Graphics In Calc)
 with a view to noting changes required to update it to the 4.1x branch.

 Whilst I have uploaded an updated version of the chapter to the ODF Authors
 site,  I am unsure whether the very minor changes (the slight change of a
 single menu item and possible replacement of a single screen shot)
 necessitate re-publishing.

 The updated version can be found here:
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1/chapter-5-using-graphics-in-calc/view

 I'll take a look at chapter 6 next.

 Regards,

 Martin

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide

2013-11-21 Thread Jean Weber
Hi Peter,
I plan to check and publish these last three chapters today or
tomorrow and then compile the book. Great work!

Are you going to work on Calc Guide updates for v4.1 now? I've got
some of the later chapters in progress (should be finished soon), but
quite a few have been done... enough to keep you busy for awhile
anyway.

--Jean


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:41 PM, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 Hello

 Version 4.1 of the Draw Guide Chapter 11 Advanced Draw Techniques is now in
 the Drafts LO4.1 folder on the ODF Authors website ready for review and
 comment.

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/draw-guide/draft-lo4.1/dg-ch11-advanced-draw-techniques/view

 That is the last chapter and version 4.1 is now complete.

 Regards

 PeterS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide

2013-11-19 Thread Jean Weber
Page styles cannot be linked. That is working as designed and AFAIK it's always 
been that way. BTW, you often don't need as many page styles as you might 
initially think. Chapters 6  7 in the Writer Guide have more details.

--Jean

 On 19 Nov 2013, at 19:59, Alan Wheatley afwheat...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Team,
 
 I have just started using LibreOffice (on an iMAC with OS X 10.8) having used 
 OpenOffice in the past. Delighted by the Getting Started Guide. I would like 
 to support your efforts by providing feedback.
 
 As to linking styles, this does not work for Page styles. When creating a new 
 Page style from an existing style, the window has Linked greyed out: works 
 OK with, say, paragraph styles.
 
 I get the same result with a document and a template.
 
 Any idea if this is intended, or a bug, or something?
 
 I want to set up page styles for a document with chapters. I thought I could 
 do this by creating a Base page style with the document title common to all 
 chapters centre headings (as a field) and different right heading for each 
 chapter. I can, of course, do this by manually applying the centre heading to 
 every page style I create, but l expected that by linking the new page style 
 to the base style the chapter heading in the Base page style would be set 
 into each linked page style automatically.
 
 Best wishes, Alan Wheatley
 

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Upcoming Bugzilla Migration

2013-11-17 Thread Jean Weber
Offhand I can't think of any mentions in the user guides, but I'll
check. I'm sure there are some mentions on the Docs wiki somewhere, or
in resources like the Contributors Guide. I'll check the latter, and
hopefully others can track down any mentions on the wiki -- or might
recall or be able to find any mentions in other user docs.

--Jean


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Robinson Tryon
bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hullo Documentarians!

 As some of you already know, QA is migrating the project's bugtracking
 activities to a separate instance of Bugzilla:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/LibreOffice_Bugzilla_Proposal

 All user accounts, data, etc... will be transfered-over, and we expect
 that our users won't notice a thing, aside from the name and url
 change.

 In preparation, I'm working on updating all of our internal docs and
 resources to point to the new domain 'bugs.libreoffice.org', and
 replace references to 'FDO' and 'Freedesktop.org Bugzilla' with more
 generic 'Bugzilla' or 'LibreOffice Bugzilla' references. The domain
 bugs.libreoffice.org has been pointed at bugs.freedesktop.org,
 allowing us to change references today and then have a transparent
 switch-over on the day of migration.

 I'm not sure how many FDO references we have in our documentation, but
 I'd appreciate it if the Docs Team could update these references or
 point me in the right direction to make these updates myself.

 Thanks,
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide, Chapter 9

2013-11-17 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Hazel Russman
hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:09:38 +1000
 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 3) I am still looking for one or more people to help with updating the
 Base Handbook, which was translated from German to English. In this
 case, the work involves translating new material that was added to the
 German handbook for v4.1. If you are interested in helping with this
 work, I can provide more info  point you to the relevant files.

 Which is more urgent, the Base Handbook or the Calc Wiki? I can do
 either but not both.

 Hazel

Hard to choose; IMO both are high priority, so it's really up to you.
Finishing the Calc FAQs is certainly a good thing to do.

More general comment to other team members: there are other French
FAQs and tutorials to be translated in English, if you feel
comfortable doing that. Please coordinate on this list, so you don't
duplicate effort by other team members, including in the French group.
Original French FAQs are here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/FR/FAQ
English FAQs are here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide, Chapter 9

2013-11-17 Thread Jean Weber
Preston,
Can you do translations from either French or German? Otherwise, what
interests you from the list in my earlier note in this thread? Some
items on that list can be conveniently broken into smaller tasks that
take less of a time commitment than others.

--Jean

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Preston Bernstein
prestonbernst...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jean,

 I would also like to know what needs to be done. I'm ready to help in any
 way.

 Best,
 Preston

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide, Chapter 9

2013-11-16 Thread Jean Weber
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:37 PM, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:

 I have been upgrading the Draw (4.1) and will complete the remaining chapters 
 fairly quickly. Then it will be onto the Calc Guide to bring up to 4.1. The 
 Calc chapters are being upgraded to 4.0 by other volunteers. I shall then 
 upgrade the chapters to 4.1 so that the Calc Guide has the same look and feel 
 throughout the guide. After that I will be moving onto the Impress Guide 
 which is now at 4.0 to upgrade to 4.1 maybe 4.2. Just have to wait and see.

 I think the best bet is to move onto the other LO modules because I think 
 there is a shortage of volunteers to upgrade the remaining modules. I am sure 
 Jean will advise which is the best to have a go at.


 On 16 Nov 2013, at 13:30, Martin Saffron [via Document Foundation Mail 
 Archive] ml-node+s969070n4083478...@n3.nabble.com wrote:

 I've just taken another look at the publications page
 (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications) and
 would like advice as to which area I can begin work on.  Is the
 objective to bring all guides up to date (4.1.x branch) or are 4.0.x
 guides sufficient?

Jean here. General comment to Martin: We've been tending to skip a
point release for Getting Started and the Writer Guide, because we
haven't been able to keep them updated fast enough while at the same
time improving the content, not just updating it. Calc Guide is
something of an orphan and, as you can see, hasn't been updated since
v3.4.

The objective at this point is to finish the Calc Guide to 4.1 and
start updating GS and WG to v4.2. The first beta of LO 4.2 is due out
next week (see Release Plan,
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.2 and the Release
Notes, https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2

So, my suggestions to you are:
1) Go through Chapters 5, 6, 12, 13 of Calc Guide (currently listed as
LO v4.0) to see if anything needs changing for v4.1 -- or if anything
wasn't updated correctly from v3.4 to v 4.0. Also Appendix C hasn't
been updated from v3.4; you could do that. Other chapters have already
been updated to v4.1, but Peter hasn't been through all of them for
look and feel updates. People are working on Ch14 and Appendixes A and
B. I'm really hoping to get that book done by the end of November.

2) Start identifying which chapter of Getting Started and/or other
books will need updating for v4.2. Add info to this page:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks

Also would be useful to go through the existing GS book to see what
else needs updating or improvement. PLEASE NOTE: Most chapters in this
book cover material also included in other books, though topics and
level of detail vary. Therefore, noting necessary updates changes in
chapter lists for other books is very helpful.

3) I am still looking for one or more people to help with updating the
Base Handbook, which was translated from German to English. In this
case, the work involves translating new material that was added to the
German handbook for v4.1. If you are interested in helping with this
work, I can provide more info  point you to the relevant files.

4) Work on Base Guide (different book, written from scratch in
English). If you're interested in that, I'll provide more info. I'm in
the middle of rationalizing chapters of that book following recent
work by Dan Lewis (and earlier work that I've neglected to follow up
on).

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Some progress on the Base Guide, again

2013-11-16 Thread Jean Weber
Dan,
As requested, I have copied GSCH8 (GS with Base) into the Base Guide
folder on ODFAuthors. Sorry to have taken so long. I have left it in
the Published 4.0 folder for completeness, with a note that it will be
replaced with a new file in the next iteration.

--Jean


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan,
 Good to hear from you, and great to hear of both your work on this
 book and the fact that Calibre seems to be doing a better job for
 ePubs; creating ePubs of more of our chapters and books has been on my
 to-do list forever, it seems. Getting good results used to be very
 daunting and time-consuming.

 I've been intending to move Getting Started with Base and not gotten
 around to it, so it's good to be nudged. I also need to replace the
 chapter in the Getting Started book with the replacement chapter you
 provided some time ago; work on GS for v4.2 will be coming up the
 priority list all too soon.

 --Jean


 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have completed a major rewrite of chapter 2 of the Base Guide,
 Planning/Designing your Database. This has been uploaded to the ODFAuthors
 website:
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-guide/draft-4.x/planning-designing-your-database/view.
  Also uploaded there is the ePUB version of it. By the way, the newer
 Calibre versions seem to convert from odf to ePUB better than earlier ones.
  The ODF version has also been uploaded to the Published page on the
 LibreOffice wiki as a 4.1.x draft. The wiki page for tracking a chapter's
 progress from submission through review, editing, and publishing has been
 updated.
  My To Do list: finish chapter 3, Data Input: Tables before the end of
 the year AND updating the Base Guide Outline with enough detail that someone
 can use it to write some of these chapters. (approximately up to 6 levels in
 the outline). I have already done some work on chapter 2 in it.
  One request: If you agree that Getting Started with Base should be
 the beginning (as I have come to believe), would you please move this
 chapter from the Getting Started folder to the Base 4.1.x Draft folder?
  Internet access is still limited and will continue to be so for the
 next several months.

 --Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GETPIVOTDATA

2013-11-14 Thread Jean Weber
Thanks! I have tweaked it so the caution note is on the same page, and
I have republished the chapter.

--Jean

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:47 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Good stuff. Well done.

 JohnS

 On 14/11/2013 12:39, K-J LibreOffice wrote:

 Hi John, Jean,
 Am 14.11.2013 11:28, schrieb John Smith:

 Hi Jean
 I've not had a look at this, but if it mentions within the chapter the
 function GETPIVOTDATA(),


 Yes

 then it may be informative to readers that a
 bug exists within it. The bug number is 71234 and can be found here;
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71234


 I made a note in the published file taking your bug report and put the
 file in Draft LO4.1 [1].
 Unfortunately the note starts on a new page.

 [1]
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1/chapter-8-pivot-table



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.1 Draw Guide

2013-11-14 Thread Jean Weber
Chapters 7 and 8 of the Draw Guide v4.1 have been published after
minor editing by me. As always, they are available for further review
by others.

--Jean

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 Hello

 Version 4.1 of the Draw Guide Chapter 8 Connections, Flowcharts and
 Organization Charts is now available in the Drafts LO4.1 folder on the ODF
 Authors website ready for review and comment.

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/draw-guide/draft-lo4.1/dg-ch-08-connections-flowcharts-and-organization-charts/view

 Regards

 PeterS



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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide v4.1, Chapter 8, Pivot Tables, has been published

2013-11-12 Thread Jean Weber
I have edited Preston's work on CG 4.1 Ch8, Pivot Tables, and published it to 
the wiki and to the ODFAuthors website (on the latter, it's under CG 4.0, which 
is where I'm putting chapters until PeterS has a chance to go through them). 
I'd link, but on the iPad that's not as easy or quick as on the laptop).

Others are welcome to further review this or any other chapter in this book. We 
are very close completing a first edition of the book, so I am pushing ahead 
with the remaining chapters. As you know, I am a fan of publish early and 
often.

--Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO Math Help

2013-11-11 Thread Jean Weber
Glen,
The help files at help.libreoffice.org are a copy of the help files
supplied with the LibreOffice program itself). AFAIK, they are
created/reviewed/published by the developers and translators, due to
the requirements of tools used in the process. The best person to ask
is probably Sophie Gautier, whom I have copied on this note.

My guess is that, at this time, the best way to contribute your work
is through the Docs wiki, from where it can be picked up and reused by
the Help team. We can certainly make a place for it on the wiki,
either in wiki format or in ODT/PDF format -- or all of those. What
form is your list in now?

--Jean
Team Leader, LibreOffice Documentation


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Glen Reesor g...@jenniferandglen.ca wrote:
 Thanks for the note Tom.

 As I mentioned in my previous email, I would like to help creating
 documentation for LibreOffice. I have created a list of common constructions
 for LO Math (exponents, roots, matricies, integrals, limits, piecewise
 functions , etc) and some common formulas (Pythagorean Theorem, quadratic
 formula, slope, binomial expansion, etc).

 As far as I can tell, these would belong here:
 https://help.libreoffice.org/Math/Math_Examples

 The odfauthors.org website appears to be setup for creating and review
 libreoffice docs. What process is used for creating/reviewing/publishing
 parts of help.libreoffice.org?

 What would be my next step in contributing this work?

 Thanks in advance,

 Glen



 On 2013-11-07 05:38, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 They are allowed and most people prolly can deal with them but it's best
 avoided.

 The links worked for me and i suspect people reading using a plain-text
 email-client were prolly able to deal with those links so don't worry
 about
 it this time.  I tend to try to put urls on a new-line and then start
 another newline immediately afterwards.  I've seen people put full-stops
 and other punctuation after them which messes up the link whereas the way
 you did it inside a tag-bracket prolly means people didn't have trouble.

 Thanks for asking! :)
 Regards from
 Tom :)



 On 7 November 2013 01:51, Glen Reesorg...@jenniferandglen.ca  wrote:



 Hi,
 I would like to help with LO documentation. I noticed that help has been
 requested creating examples of LO Math (herehttps://wiki.
 documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development#
 Wish_Lists_for_Documentation). Would this be a stand-alone document, or
 in the wiki herehttps://help.libreoffice.org/Math/Math_Examples?

 I was thinking of a doc that is similar to programming by example. There
 would be a few sections (Basic, Intermediate, Advanced, perhaps). Each
 section would contain a table with rows like this:

 Display   Command
 [Actual LO Math Image]LO Math Commands required to generate that
 image

 By the way, are html messages acceptable on this list?

 - Glen

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO Math Help

2013-11-11 Thread Jean Weber
Glen,

If you'd like to make your list available for content review and
comment in its present form, you could put it on ODFAuthors and/or on
the wiki. For ODFAuthors, I'll need to create an account for you (let
me know if you'd like me to do that); for the wiki, you can create an
account for yourself.

--Jean


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Glen Reesor g...@jenniferandglen.ca wrote:
 My list is in ODT format right now. I would have no problem putting it in
 wiki format. Thanks for passing my note along to Sophie Gautier.

 - Glen


 On 2013-11-11 17:21, Jean Weber wrote:

 Glen,
 The help files at help.libreoffice.org are a copy of the help files
 supplied with the LibreOffice program itself). AFAIK, they are
 created/reviewed/published by the developers and translators, due to
 the requirements of tools used in the process. The best person to ask
 is probably Sophie Gautier, whom I have copied on this note.

 My guess is that, at this time, the best way to contribute your work
 is through the Docs wiki, from where it can be picked up and reused by
 the Help team. We can certainly make a place for it on the wiki,
 either in wiki format or in ODT/PDF format -- or all of those. What
 form is your list in now?

 --Jean
 Team Leader, LibreOffice Documentation


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Glen Reesorg...@jenniferandglen.ca
 wrote:


 Thanks for the note Tom.

 As I mentioned in my previous email, I would like to help creating
 documentation for LibreOffice. I have created a list of common
 constructions
 for LO Math (exponents, roots, matricies, integrals, limits, piecewise
 functions , etc) and some common formulas (Pythagorean Theorem, quadratic
 formula, slope, binomial expansion, etc).

 As far as I can tell, these would belong here:
 https://help.libreoffice.org/Math/Math_Examples

 The odfauthors.org website appears to be setup for creating and review
 libreoffice docs. What process is used for creating/reviewing/publishing
 parts of help.libreoffice.org?

 What would be my next step in contributing this work?

 Thanks in advance,

 Glen



 On 2013-11-07 05:38, Tom Davies wrote:


 Hi :)
 They are allowed and most people prolly can deal with them but it's best
 avoided.

 The links worked for me and i suspect people reading using a plain-text
 email-client were prolly able to deal with those links so don't worry
 about
 it this time.  I tend to try to put urls on a new-line and then start
 another newline immediately afterwards.  I've seen people put full-stops
 and other punctuation after them which messes up the link whereas the
 way
 you did it inside a tag-bracket prolly means people didn't have trouble.

 Thanks for asking! :)
 Regards from
 Tom :)



 On 7 November 2013 01:51, Glen Reesorg...@jenniferandglen.ca   wrote:




 Hi,
 I would like to help with LO documentation. I noticed that help has
 been
 requested creating examples of LO Math (herehttps://wiki.
 documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development#
 Wish_Lists_for_Documentation). Would this be a stand-alone document,
 or
 in the wiki herehttps://help.libreoffice.org/Math/Math_Examples?

 I was thinking of a doc that is similar to programming by example.
 There
 would be a few sections (Basic, Intermediate, Advanced, perhaps). Each
 section would contain a table with rows like this:

 Display   Command
 [Actual LO Math Image]LO Math Commands required to generate
 that
 image

 By the way, are html messages acceptable on this list?

 - Glen

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Some progress on the Base Guide, again

2013-11-07 Thread Jean Weber
Dan,
Good to hear from you, and great to hear of both your work on this
book and the fact that Calibre seems to be doing a better job for
ePubs; creating ePubs of more of our chapters and books has been on my
to-do list forever, it seems. Getting good results used to be very
daunting and time-consuming.

I've been intending to move Getting Started with Base and not gotten
around to it, so it's good to be nudged. I also need to replace the
chapter in the Getting Started book with the replacement chapter you
provided some time ago; work on GS for v4.2 will be coming up the
priority list all too soon.

--Jean


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have completed a major rewrite of chapter 2 of the Base Guide,
 Planning/Designing your Database. This has been uploaded to the ODFAuthors
 website:
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-guide/draft-4.x/planning-designing-your-database/view.
  Also uploaded there is the ePUB version of it. By the way, the newer
 Calibre versions seem to convert from odf to ePUB better than earlier ones.
  The ODF version has also been uploaded to the Published page on the
 LibreOffice wiki as a 4.1.x draft. The wiki page for tracking a chapter's
 progress from submission through review, editing, and publishing has been
 updated.
  My To Do list: finish chapter 3, Data Input: Tables before the end of
 the year AND updating the Base Guide Outline with enough detail that someone
 can use it to write some of these chapters. (approximately up to 6 levels in
 the outline). I have already done some work on chapter 2 in it.
  One request: If you agree that Getting Started with Base should be
 the beginning (as I have come to believe), would you please move this
 chapter from the Getting Started folder to the Base 4.1.x Draft folder?
  Internet access is still limited and will continue to be so for the
 next several months.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LO white paper

2013-11-06 Thread Jean Weber
Permanent home on the wiki. One file can be linked from several pages,
including Docs and Marketing. Haven't had time to think about that in
more detail, or look at the paper itself. That needn't stop someone
else moving ahead with this.

--Jean


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 I've done a bit of updating of my white paper (making the case to transition
 from MS Office to LO), and it can be found here:

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/white_papers/update-to-ms-office-to-libreoffice-white-paper-nov-4-2013/view

 Or, if you don't have access to ODF, it's also available either in PDF or
 ODT formats here:

 http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.pdf
 http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.odt

 Anyone can use it wherever it might be helpful. Does anyone have any
 suggestions for a permanent home?

 David

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc wiki FAQ

2013-11-06 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Googlemail hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 22:08:18 +0100
 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:

 Le 03/11/2013 21:26, Jean Weber a écrit :
  On 4 Nov 2013, at 3:14, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
 
  There are currently only a few entries in this faq. I have edited
  them and they just need new screenshots.
 
  The French Calc FAQ has lots of entries. I could in theory
  translate these into English but it would be a big job and take a
  long time, probably months. Is it worth doing?
 
 
  IMO, yes, very much worth doing. We need more info on Calc.
 
  And if anyone else wants to translate FAQs or How-tos (on any topic)
  from French or German to English, please do!
 
  Thanks again for all your work, Hazel.

 Yes, thanks a lot :) Calc FAQ was on my todo list for this month, but
 time has manage it differently. I should have more time end of November
 and in December to help you and other who will join.
 Thanks again.
 Kin regards
 Sophie

 So how do we co-ordinate this? My initial idea was to copy and translate the 
 French contents list, commenting out all the titles that don't exist yet. 
 Then anyone who translates an article can un-comment its title as well.


Sounds like a reasonable approach to me. I would also like to put a
link to the French FAQ on the main Calc (English) FAQ page, with a
note that we're translating from the French, and perhaps inviting
others to help -- unless those of you already working on this think
that would be more disruptive than helpful.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc wiki FAQ

2013-11-06 Thread Jean Weber
Bruce,
Welcome. Translating FAQs is a perfect job for someone with only
limited blocks of time available. Slow work completion is much less
critical than when trying to put together a user guide. So I encourage
you to just dive in and do what you can, when you can. If you let us
know what you're working on, others won't accidentally duplicate your
work. One easy way to do that is to create a link from the Calc FAQ
page to a not-yet-translated question; that way it shows up in red and
people know it's being done.

BTW, many team members are in the UK and Europe; I am in Australia.
Also BTW, quite a few of us are retired.

--Jean


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Bruce Martin brucemarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Hazel:

 I just saw this message.

 I am in the Montreal, QC, Canada area and am English (native) French very
 fluent and have done public speaking in French) and somewhat less strong in
 Spanish.

 Being retired and alone, I can help with some of the translation, and/or
 when it seems appropriate, integrate some of the French questions where they
 have a significant common underlying denominator. Then take those integrated
 QAs and do an explanatory translation into Canadian English. (While
 Canadian and American English do have some differences, they are not so
 great usually as to cause misunderstandings.) since my time is somewhat
 divided, I may not be as fast in getting content out as some might like,
 however I may be able to do some of this.

 I work in a combination of F17-64 bit and Win XP (when I have to) on a self
 built network with about 20 Tb. online.

 Time zone here is Eastern North America (same as NYC) and I am usually
 around later in the day into night.

 Best Regards,

 Bruce M.



 On 11/03/2013 12:14 PM, Hazel Russman wrote:

 There are currently only a few entries in this faq. I have edited them
 and they just need new screenshots.

 The French Calc FAQ has lots of entries. I could in theory translate
 these into English but it would be a big job and take a long time,
 probably months. Is it worth doing?



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Guide Chapter 14 -- Customizing Calc

2013-11-06 Thread Jean Weber
Mark,

Thanks for doing this! A bit of trivia: the file name should have been
changed to CG4114 (for LOv4.1, Ch14). No problem; I'll do that when I
go through it and create the next iteration.

--Jean


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Mark Morin mdmp...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have uploaded a draft of this chapter along with all the graphics I used
 zipped into one file (as well as embedded into the document).
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1
 Have loads of fun with it; I sure did.

 Jean--I was pretty close in my time estimate in getting it uploaded (just
 about midnight).

 mark

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc wiki FAQ

2013-11-03 Thread Jean Weber
 On 4 Nov 2013, at 3:14, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 There are currently only a few entries in this faq. I have edited them
 and they just need new screenshots.
 
 The French Calc FAQ has lots of entries. I could in theory translate
 these into English but it would be a big job and take a long time,
 probably months. Is it worth doing?


IMO, yes, very much worth doing. We need more info on Calc. 

And if anyone else wants to translate FAQs or How-tos (on any topic) from 
French or German to English, please do!

Thanks again for all your work, Hazel.

--Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer FAQ: Miscellaneous.

2013-11-03 Thread Jean Weber
 On 31 Oct 2013, at 1:49, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 I have now completed this final section of the FAQ. Most of the
 articles are fresh translations from the French and will have to be
 checked for accuracy. In one or two cases, I have added material to
 make the instructions clearer:
 
 1) The section on thumbnail previews now has an extra step (File|Print
 preview) without which it will not work.
 2) The section on business cards has been rewritten and extended as
 the original instructions were not at all easy to follow.
 
 I have been using LO3.5.4 for the necessary experiments: LO4 might be
 different.
 
 Some of the articles have screenshots and some have links to French
 HOWTOs in odt format. I have commented these out rather than deleting
 them as there may be English equivalents somewhere (our English HOWTO
 page seems rather bare!)
 

This is a good time to encourage other team members to translate How-tos from 
French to English and build up our collection.

If English is not your native language, or if your French is a bit rusty and 
helped by Google Translate, It doesn't matter if your initial translation is a 
bit rough; others can edit the English to improve it.

I'll also take this opportunity to remind everyone that additional material for 
the Base Handbook is awaiting translation from German to English. Please help 
if you can.

--Jean



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[libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: [libreoffice-projects] Owncloud repository

2013-10-23 Thread Jean Weber
as a follow-up to Tom's message, forwarding Charles' message, please
note the better URL in the Christian's message below. --Jean


-- Forwarded message --
From: Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+libreoff...@googlemail.com
Date: Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-projects] Owncloud repository

Hi Charles, *,

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 This is a reminder that we have an owncloud repository for marketing
 files and content, as requested in Milano:
 https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/index.php/apps/files?dir=//Marketing

That URL however needs an account - there is a redirection in place
that is nice to read and doesn't require a login:

https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/marketing

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Conditional Styles - FAQ

2013-10-21 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
 C wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Dave Barton wrote:

 Please disregard my previous post. I downloaded the French sample
 document and tracked down the way that Conditional Styles actually work.

 I will try rewriting the article to make the explanation a little clearer.

 Apologies for the list noise.

 I wouldn't say it's list noise.  It's good to know that members of the
 team are working on stuff. A little chatter about what we are doing is
 a good thing... reminds the rest of us that there are things that need
 doing :-) and that we're not working on things in isolation.

 Hopefully I'll be back at it myself in the coming week (now that I
 finally seem to have stable internet access again).  I'll pick up
 where I left of with translating the Impress FAQ over from French.

 Clayton

 Hi Clayton,

 Echoing Jean's earlier comment Great to see you back here :)

 I think I have now got my head around conditional styles and updated
 FAQ156 with English screen captures  a sample document. I have tried to
 enhance, rather than rewrite, the original author's article. I would
 appreciate it if anyone can spare a moment to review my changes.

 Regards
 Dave


Someone should probably also compare this FAQ with the section on the
same topic in the Writer Guide (in Chapter 7, IIRC) and revise the WG
entry if necessary.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] BoD nominations

2013-10-17 Thread Jean Weber
For those members of the team who don't follow the Board-discuss list, I'll 
mention that the election has not yet been formally called, though people are 
being encouraged to consider nominating themselves or others. 

Please note that only members of The Document Foundation are eligible to be 
members of the Board or to vote in elections. That leaves out Hazel, who is not 
a member of TDF.

I am a member of TDF and of the Membership Committee, which oversees the 
election of members of the Board of Directors. Unrelated to that, I will not be 
nominating for the BoD, and will I not accept a nomination if someone else 
wants to nominates me. My reasons are private, have nothing to do with TDF, and 
are not open for discussion.

--Jean

 On 18 Oct 2013, at 2:58, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hi :)  
 
 There are some fairly fantastic people in this team and it would be great to 
 see some of you step forwards for nomination to the BoD.  
 
 
 I would really like to see Jean, Hazel and Sophie nominated, not just to 
 address the gender imbalance but also because i think they would be great at 
 expressing points of view that others on the BoD might not have thought 
 about.Documentation is a key aspect of any project and it's an area that 
 often gets overlooked, possibly due to lack of representation at the higher 
 levels.  
 
 
 Coders, marketeers and other groups get represented but rarely anyone from 
 documentation.  
 
 People can nominate themselves which saves a lot of the fuss of asking people 
 if they would mind and then deciding who does the nominating.  On the other 
 hand people in this certain people might be shy or feel it is better to be 
 nominated by someone else.  
 
 
 Probably best if it's not me doing the nominations though!  Is anyone else 
 up for nominating people from this team?
 
 Regards from  
 Tom :)  
 

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Minor changes to user guide chapter template

2013-10-17 Thread Jean Weber

 On 18 Oct 2013, at 7:40, Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be wrote:
 
 Hello Jean
 op 09-10-13 10:21, Jean Weber schreef:
 I have made some changes to the copyright page of the user guide
 chapter template. The most important change is correcting the font
 used for the Command key symbol for Mac users. It should not display
 correctly on all operating systems.
 Yes, indeed I had trouble to have the symbol in Ubuntu. In the new template, 
 it shows in the correct way. What is/was the trick? I have been looking for 
 ages to find the special character. My way around was opening the doc under 
 Windows ;-(
 
 If you are creating new documents, please take and use a copy of the
 updated template.
 
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/resources-for-contributers/template-for-v3.4-chapters/view
 
 --Jean
 
 Thanks a lot
 Best regards
 
 -- 
 Leo Moons
 LibreOffice/nl
 

Leo, I discovered which character it was in the Liberation font and used that. 
I found it when I searched online for the Mac Command symbol's character number.

I don't know why I didn't think to do that a long time ago.

--Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide?

2013-10-17 Thread Jean Weber
Thanks for checking in, John. I had assumed you were still slogging through 
that appendix. Many people who have worked on it over the years have 
disappeared into the treacle and have never been seen again, poor things. Those 
who emerge deserve a medal IMO. 

Thank you again for accepting this assignment. 

--Jean

 On 17 Oct 2013, at 7:00, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hi Jean
 Just to reassure you that Appendix B is still work in progress. I now know 
 what wading through treacle with your shoe laces tied together must feel like.
 There's quite a few bugs and lots of research on existing bugs that may 
 influence what I'm looking at, to deal with.
 
 Regards
 JohnS
 On 16/10/2013 10:13, Jean Weber wrote:
 Work on the Calc Guide seems to have stalled, or gone into the very,
 very slow going category for those chapters that I'm aware are being
 worked on. We need people to take Chapter 14 and Appendix C. Both
 should be fairly easy to check. If you have problems with replacing
 screenshots in Ch14, just mark which ones need replacement, and make
 any necessary changes to the text.
 
 Would really be nice to get this book done this year, don't you think?
 
 --Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide?

2013-10-16 Thread Jean Weber
Work on the Calc Guide seems to have stalled, or gone into the very,
very slow going category for those chapters that I'm aware are being
worked on. We need people to take Chapter 14 and Appendix C. Both
should be fairly easy to check. If you have problems with replacing
screenshots in Ch14, just mark which ones need replacement, and make
any necessary changes to the text.

Would really be nice to get this book done this year, don't you think?

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide?

2013-10-16 Thread Jean Weber
Mark,
You can get it here without needing a login. I'll check later and set
up an account for you at ODFAuthors if you don't already have one;
that is where you should return the edited file. You can also return
it directly to me if you have any problem with the website.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d5/CG3414-CustomizingCalc.odt

--Jean


On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Mark Morin mdmp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tell me how to access the document and I'll give it a shot.
 mark

 On 10/16/2013 5:13 AM, Jean Weber wrote:
 Work on the Calc Guide seems to have stalled, or gone into the very,
 very slow going category for those chapters that I'm aware are being
 worked on. We need people to take Chapter 14 and Appendix C. Both
 should be fairly easy to check. If you have problems with replacing
 screenshots in Ch14, just mark which ones need replacement, and make
 any necessary changes to the text.

 Would really be nice to get this book done this year, don't you think?

 --Jean


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[libreoffice-documentation] Reviewed how-to on printing address labels

2013-10-11 Thread Jean Weber
David,
I have reviewed this document and make several suggestions as well as
some direct edits (with change tracking on). Thanks for your work!

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/how-tos-tutorials/feedback/how-to-print-address-labels/view

--Jean

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