[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Issues for Windows users when editing help files

2016-05-26 Thread ptoye
eter mailto:l...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Sunday, May 22, 2016, 2:06:22 AM, you wrote: On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:16 PM, ptoye <[hidden email]> wrote: > As some of you may be aware, I've edited a few help files. But I found that > the Wiki pages on submitt

[libreoffice-documentation] Issues for Windows users when editing help files

2016-05-21 Thread ptoye
As some of you may be aware, I've edited a few help files. But I found that the Wiki pages on submitting changes were completely Unix oriented (totally reasonable in my view) and so had quite a few problems in submitting patches. My question is: is it worth while my editing the Wiki to try to

[libreoffice-documentation] Simple question about submitting a patch

2016-04-30 Thread ptoye
I'm ready to submit my first patch to the help files, but I find the wiki a bit confusing. Development/gerrit/SubmitPatch says "As a casual contributor your patch needs to have the same email address as your gerrit account has or you will not be allowed to push." How does a patch have an email

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help files are inconsistent

2016-04-26 Thread ptoye
Thanks Olivier. I can't see from this where the problem happened (I don't know Opengrok at all - never heard of it before your post - more thanks). The files on Opengrok have the same content as the files I downloaded. But the help text from F1 in LO is different (and a bit better), so it looks

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation

2016-04-13 Thread ptoye
Sophi and Olivier, I'm referring to help content only. The changes that I'm making are cosmetic - either removing grammatical errors ("allow to") or inserting articles. They shouldn't need translating as I'm sure the translators have already corrected this in their own languages. I intend to

[libreoffice-documentation] Help files are inconsistent

2016-04-13 Thread ptoye
As part of my efforts to clean up some help files I've found that at least one file that I downloaded from git://gerrit.libreoffice.org/help doesn't have the same text as in the corresponding LO help file (5.0.5 en-GB). This may of course happen on other files. This raises the question - is this

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation

2016-04-13 Thread ptoye
One further issue: I don't know the LO bureaucracy but the "allow to" issue hasn't been filed as a bug in Bugzilla. Should I do this or isn't it necessary? - Peter -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Use-of-allow-to-in-documentation-tp4167829p4181012.html

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation

2016-04-11 Thread ptoye
11/04/2016 12:27, ptoye escreveu: > I now think that I've managed to set up my Git repository correctly, so I'll > start editing. > > I've two questions: > > 1) There are about 8 files to modify. Should I submit all of them in one > commit, or do each separately? You

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation

2016-04-11 Thread ptoye
I now think that I've managed to set up my Git repository correctly, so I'll start editing. I've two questions: 1) There are about 8 files to modify. Should I submit all of them in one commit, or do each separately? 2) As well as the "allow to" issue, I've noticed that some files have slightly

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Problems editing help files

2016-04-09 Thread ptoye
ot add it again. 4) git status Same as 1. "git diff" will list the changes you did since last "git pull" regards Olivier Em 08/04/2016 11:38, ptoye escreveu: > Thanks Olivier. I don't have time now to do an interactive chat. Possibly > next week. >

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Problems editing help files

2016-04-08 Thread ptoye
Thanks Olivier. I don't have time now to do an interactive chat. Possibly next week. I'm sure that Git is great, but as with all such tools it has to do a lot of things so it gets complicated fairly quickly. As an ex-software writer I sympathise with the designer. But here's a quick excerpt of a

[libreoffice-documentation] Problems editing help files

2016-04-07 Thread ptoye
I'm trying for the first time to edit a live help file and have come up against a few problems. *WARNING* I'm a Git virgin so please treat me kindly. Firstly, the Git tutorials that I've found assume that all files are in a single one-level directory structure. Easy for teaching, but not for real

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation

2016-04-06 Thread ptoye
Jan, Sorry it's taken so long - I got held up as you might have seen. I'm getting ready to make the first set of amendments now, but I'm still a bit confused about the workflow. Do I update the help file on the Git repository (using push) directly, or do I use gerrit? In the latter case I

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help-files: Large-scale 'cosmetic' changes

2016-03-31 Thread ptoye
.ptoye.com - Thursday, March 31, 2016, 3:22:04 PM, you wrote: Hi Peter, Sorry I didn't follow the all thread (difficult to read and get its context, also) Le 31/03/2016 11:32, ptoye a écrit : > TomD, > > Thanks for all of this. I must say that is was a bit disheartening to

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help-files: Large-scale 'cosmetic' changes

2016-03-31 Thread ptoye
onality really works and checking the > >> accuracy of the instructions and > >> 2. proof-reading grammar and such like to make it a bit less geeky > >> and more "man(/woman) on the street" > >> > >> As they are those help-files are much easi

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help-files: Large-scale 'cosmetic' changes

2016-01-01 Thread ptoye
Thanks Regina - got it. I have to admit that at 249 pages it's not going to be my bedtime reading, though - Peter -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Help-files-Large-scale-cosmetic-changes-tp4169547p4170541.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help-files: Large-scale 'cosmetic' changes

2015-12-31 Thread ptoye
Jean Weber wrote > Free copy of PDF available here: > http://www.jeanweber.com/newsite/wp-content/uploads/ITHH_Ebook.pdf Dear Jean, I get an error 404 from this link. Peter - Peter -- View this message in context:

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help-files: Large-scale 'cosmetic' changes

2015-12-31 Thread ptoye
Jean, I tried again and got this again: Not Found The requested URL /newsite/wp-content/uploads/ITHH_Ebook.pdf was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. I don't think it's my browser (Firefox)

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help-files: Large-scale 'cosmetic' changes

2015-12-19 Thread ptoye
Tom (and others), I'm not sure that "allow to" is such an enormous problem with the help files. There are only 8 help files which use "allow to" or "allows to", and only one of them has more than one occurrence, so manual change is easily possible - no automation needed. A far larger problem is

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation

2015-12-06 Thread ptoye
Hi Jan, I read through the pages on gerrit setup (two of them - they seem to be very similar to start with, and I fond that bit confusing!), and started to get onto the gerrit system. Then I found that the commands to use gerrit were totally Unix-oriented so asked on IRC and was pointed to

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation

2015-12-02 Thread ptoye
Hi Alex, See my reply to steveedmonds: "selects a/the..." sounds better to my ears. Best regards, Peter mailto:l...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Tuesday, December 1, 2015, 10:03:47 AM, you wrote: Le 30/11/2015 12:28, ptoye a écrit : Hi Peter,

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation

2015-12-02 Thread ptoye
es an example of insertion of "you" and because it is so frequent (in my work) a search and replace is a quick fix. Steve On 2015-12-01 00:28, ptoye wrote: > I've noticed that the phrase "allow to" or "allows to" appears a lot in the > API documentation, and als

[libreoffice-documentation] Use of "allow to" in documentation

2015-11-30 Thread ptoye
I've noticed that the phrase "allow to" or "allows to" appears a lot in the API documentation, and also in some of the help files. AS a native UK English speaker, I feel that I should point out that this is incorrect grammar (I think it's also incorrect in US English). "Allow" must take an object

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-30 Thread ptoye
, Lera В письме от 22 ноября 2015 05:00:47 пользователь ptoye написал: > I've uploaded it to the bugzilla site. Thanks for your help. > > > > - > Peter > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-I-help-tp416624

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-27 Thread ptoye
I've modified it a bit more, taking your comments into account. Uploaded it to the Bugzilla site. - Peter -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-I-help-tp4166244p4167628.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Possible help files rename?

2015-11-24 Thread ptoye
Hi Jan, I think that you are writing about me. But I should point out that Sophi and Regina here were extremely helpful and showed me the main_transform file which puts the file name and path at the head of the text. Then I found the file I wanted immediately. I agree that meaningful file

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-24 Thread ptoye
not an English native speaker, and I can not be sure, but when I get the order on a database, usually I am called “developer”. I really don't know what we need to use in this case, just to draw your attention. What do you think about these? Best regards, Lera В письме от 20 ноября 2015 11:06:1

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help Writer's Guidelines

2015-11-24 Thread ptoye
toki wrote > There is _Chapter 5 Style Guide_ in _The LibreOffice Contributor's Guide_. > > To supplement those guidelines, it recommends: > * _The Chicago Manual of Style_. University of Chicago Press; > * _Read Me First! A Style Guide for the Computer Industry_. Sun > Microsystems; > * _The

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-22 Thread ptoye
I've uploaded it to the bugzilla site. Thanks for your help. - Peter -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-I-help-tp4166244p4167018.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-22 Thread ptoye
Here it is - I think. 02010100.xhp - Peter -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-I-help-tp4166244p4167017.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-20 Thread ptoye
Thanks Regina - I got it and installed it. I've now amended the relevant help page. Do I upload the whole page here, or just the bits I changed? Or send it somewhere else? - Peter -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-I-help-tp4166244p4166887.html Sent

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help Writer's Guidelines

2015-11-20 Thread ptoye
I agree. I am trying to improve a page at the moment, and it is not easy to see at one place what the original author meant. This may be a translation problem, and I realise that it is difficult if the translator is not an educated native speaker of the target language (in this case, UK English).

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-20 Thread ptoye
wrote: Hi Peter, ptoye schrieb: > Thanks Regina - I got it and installed it. I've now amended the relevant help > page. Do I upload the whole page here, or just the bits I changed? Or send > it somewhere else? This list strips attachments, therefore you cannot attach it here. LibreOf

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-19 Thread ptoye
Regina, Thanks. I don't have a Dropbox account, but could probably set one up fairly quickly. Or can you send it directly from your own email account - I promise not to put it in my address book. Send it to l...@ptoye.com. Best regards, Peter mailto:l...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-18 Thread ptoye
Sorry, Regina, I was referring to the link about Building on Windows. I found the help files, but rather oddly the Base help files don't seem to be there, and it's one of those that I need to edit! There's a folder for almost every other LO application except Base. I'm looking in the

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-17 Thread ptoye
Thanks Regina, but this is exactly the sort of issue that I mentioned in my last post. If I have to download ( and learn how to use) Cygwin and Git before I can even get started, it's an instant turn-off! But the link you sent me seems to be for people who want to work on LO itself - I just want

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-16 Thread ptoye
Thanks Sophie. I've looked at the links you sent (some I'd already be given by other people). It seems rather complicated in that the commands to set up access to the git system all seem to refer to Unix and I run Windows. I've never used git before so I hope I don't have to learn a completely new

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Can I help?

2015-11-16 Thread ptoye
Ah - I see. I've installed the help authoring extension, and there's a new menu item. But now the Documentation/Help wiki article tells me that I have to set up a document root, which is in my clone of the help git repository - which of course I don't have. And as I don't know git I can't get much

[libreoffice-documentation] Can I help?

2015-11-13 Thread ptoye
Can I join the help file development team please? I've submitted a bug https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95542 and can prepare some replacement text. I've also noticed some grammatical problems, some of which are widespread (translation issues?). CV: I was involved in IT