Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Recent sales of LO user guides
Hi :) if anyone does send the incomeexpenditure to the translators list it might be worth pointing out that it's only 1 book and not your best-seller. The disparity (imo) would raise the question otherwise. With time being a crucial factor would it matter if they had older versions? Hopefully it might encourage people to come hunting for the more recent ones or at least just raise the profile of your excellent guides. Btw i have bought a couple of the guides and lend them out to co-workers and it raises their eyebrows when they seee the high quality. They suddenly realise it really is a professional quality program. Regards from Tom :) On 26 January 2014 11:29, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I also feel that it's worth using the fund to get into places such as iBookstore or Amazon or anything like that, even if there is a reasonable set-up fee or a fee that is a percentage-of-sales. Even if such places make a loss (as long as that loss is not huge and is well under over-all profits) at least it gets us out there into markets that would otherwise be difficult to advertise in. After seeing your documentation there they might investigate further and then purchase/acquire the guides from elsewhere. Money is not an issue about getting into those markets. Someone with the time to do the work quickly, and some changes to the files (see my other note on the topic), are the main issues. Also there is a delay in getting books into those markets (outside our control), and with our rapid publishing schedule many items have been superceded before they get there. Any idea why the German Guides are so low? Is the Lulu Store itself only in English? Are the guides incomplete (ie only the Base Handbook available or somethign like that)? Have the German guides only recently been offered through Lulu? The only guide currently provided through Friends of OpenDocument on Lulu is the Base Handbuch, because that is the only one the German team have asked me to put there. --Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Recent sales of LO user guides
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I also feel that it's worth using the fund to get into places such as iBookstore or Amazon or anything like that, even if there is a reasonable set-up fee or a fee that is a percentage-of-sales. Even if such places make a loss (as long as that loss is not huge and is well under over-all profits) at least it gets us out there into markets that would otherwise be difficult to advertise in. After seeing your documentation there they might investigate further and then purchase/acquire the guides from elsewhere. Money is not an issue about getting into those markets. Someone with the time to do the work quickly, and some changes to the files (see my other note on the topic), are the main issues. Also there is a delay in getting books into those markets (outside our control), and with our rapid publishing schedule many items have been superceded before they get there. Any idea why the German Guides are so low? Is the Lulu Store itself only in English? Are the guides incomplete (ie only the Base Handbook available or somethign like that)? Have the German guides only recently been offered through Lulu? The only guide currently provided through Friends of OpenDocument on Lulu is the Base Handbuch, because that is the only one the German team have asked me to put there. --Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Recent sales of LO user guides
Hi :) Sorry for the extra traffic. I know my emails and ideas have to be rejected without thinking about them so perhaps i should say the opposite of what i mean. Could someone forwards that information to the international translators team, the L10n one? I feel that if they were able to raise sundry funds in a similar way then it might make them more sustainable or more able to reach a wider audience. I also feel that it's worth using the fund to get into places such as iBookstore or Amazon or anything like that, even if there is a reasonable set-up fee or a fee that is a percentage-of-sales. Even if such places make a loss (as long as that loss is not huge and is well under over-all profits) at least it gets us out there into markets that would otherwise be difficult to advertise in. After seeing your documentation there they might investigate further and then purchase/acquire the guides from elsewhere. Any idea why the German Guides are so low? Is the Lulu Store itself only in English? Are the guides incomplete (ie only the Base Handbook available or somethign like that)? Have the German guides only recently been offered through Lulu? Regards from Tom :) On 25 January 2014 23:12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Friends of Open Document Inc is the publisher of the printed editions of our user guides (through Lulu.com) and the custodian of income from sales of PDFs through the Ubuntu store. I have posted their 6-month interim accounts (July-Dec 2013) to their website. The page for LibreOffice Docs is http://www.friendsofopendocument.com/newsite/?page_id=549 A reminder: the purpose of publishing and selling printed copies is not to raise money, but to provide a service to people who want them. The purpose of selling PDFs through Ubuntu is to raise awareness of our user guides. Some guides are also available through the iBookstore (via Lulu, which produces them from the files we provide for printed copies). I have been looking into getting our user guides sold through Amazon and other venues. In the past Lulu charged a fee for this, but that has changed. I hope to be able to get the v4.2 and later books into those outlets as we produce them. --Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Recent sales of LO user guides
Friends of Open Document Inc is the publisher of the printed editions of our user guides (through Lulu.com) and the custodian of income from sales of PDFs through the Ubuntu store. I have posted their 6-month interim accounts (July-Dec 2013) to their website. The page for LibreOffice Docs is http://www.friendsofopendocument.com/newsite/?page_id=549 A reminder: the purpose of publishing and selling printed copies is not to raise money, but to provide a service to people who want them. The purpose of selling PDFs through Ubuntu is to raise awareness of our user guides. Some guides are also available through the iBookstore (via Lulu, which produces them from the files we provide for printed copies). I have been looking into getting our user guides sold through Amazon and other venues. In the past Lulu charged a fee for this, but that has changed. I hope to be able to get the v4.2 and later books into those outlets as we produce them. --Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted