Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Long march towards accessibility
Em 29/03/2022 11:18, Dave Barton escreveu: On 29/03/2022 11:55, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi Team LibreOffice has a tool to check some elements of accessibility (a11y) in documents: Choose Tools - Accessibility check I ran the tool in a random chapter and found some issues, for example: - No alt text for graphic 'Image2' - The text formatting conveys additional meaning. - Text contrast is too low. - Hyperlink text is the same as the link address 'https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/' It may be necessary to define a set of rules to address a11y in our chapter. For example, a shorter caption text can serve as 'alt text' of images. Other issues may demand for a change in formatting and contents display (merged cells in tables). Let's run the tool in the chapters, within the review process, ensuring we are in the way to turn our guides and other production accessible. More information on the Help page https://help.libreoffice.org/master/en-US/text/swriter/01/accessibility_check.html?DbPAR=WRITER#bm_id551630942369429 Cheers Hi Olivier, I would agree that we should pay more attention to a11y in our documentation. However, I feel the Accessibility Check tool needs additional work to raise it up to a more useable level. Just some rough basic examples: * I run the tool on some of my own documents and it shows headings for all possible issues in the document, not just those that actually do exist in the document and need consideration. Creating confusion for inexperienced users. * The dialog shows 2 instances of items where "The text formatting conveys additional meaning." is displayed, when the document actually has a total of 8 identical issues. * Clicking the "Go to issue" dialog button highlights a 1/2 special character, which tells the user absolutely nothing about the accessibility issue, IF ANY. I haven't yet checked Bugzilla, but I feel this needs to be drawn to the devs attention. You are probably aware that the "Help" button in the Accessibility Check dialog generates a 404 page error. Regards Dave Hi Dave I'll fix the Help button miss. I am aware the tool can be less than perfect but the point here is also to practice the tool and generate bugs for improvements. At least we can fix part of the issues raised (e.g "alt" attribute). I agree that "The text formatting conveys additional meaning." looks broken or is catching false positives. It also calls for more information on the issues detected, including suggestions to fix. And the Help page is terse. Regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Long march towards accessibility
On 29/03/2022 11:55, Olivier Hallot wrote: > Hi Team > > LibreOffice has a tool to check some elements of accessibility (a11y) in > documents: > > Choose Tools - Accessibility check > > I ran the tool in a random chapter and found some issues, for example: > > - No alt text for graphic 'Image2' > - The text formatting conveys additional meaning. > - Text contrast is too low. > - Hyperlink text is the same as the link address > 'https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/' > > It may be necessary to define a set of rules to address a11y in our > chapter. For example, a shorter caption text can serve as 'alt text' of > images. Other issues may demand for a change in formatting and contents > display (merged cells in tables). > > Let's run the tool in the chapters, within the review process, ensuring > we are in the way to turn our guides and other production accessible. > > More information on the Help page > https://help.libreoffice.org/master/en-US/text/swriter/01/accessibility_check.html?DbPAR=WRITER#bm_id551630942369429 > > > Cheers Hi Olivier, I would agree that we should pay more attention to a11y in our documentation. However, I feel the Accessibility Check tool needs additional work to raise it up to a more useable level. Just some rough basic examples: * I run the tool on some of my own documents and it shows headings for all possible issues in the document, not just those that actually do exist in the document and need consideration. Creating confusion for inexperienced users. * The dialog shows 2 instances of items where "The text formatting conveys additional meaning." is displayed, when the document actually has a total of 8 identical issues. * Clicking the "Go to issue" dialog button highlights a 1/2 special character, which tells the user absolutely nothing about the accessibility issue, IF ANY. I haven't yet checked Bugzilla, but I feel this needs to be drawn to the devs attention. You are probably aware that the "Help" button in the Accessibility Check dialog generates a 404 page error. Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Long march towards accessibility
Hi Team LibreOffice has a tool to check some elements of accessibility (a11y) in documents: Choose Tools - Accessibility check I ran the tool in a random chapter and found some issues, for example: - No alt text for graphic 'Image2' - The text formatting conveys additional meaning. - Text contrast is too low. - Hyperlink text is the same as the link address 'https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/' It may be necessary to define a set of rules to address a11y in our chapter. For example, a shorter caption text can serve as 'alt text' of images. Other issues may demand for a change in formatting and contents display (merged cells in tables). Let's run the tool in the chapters, within the review process, ensuring we are in the way to turn our guides and other production accessible. More information on the Help page https://help.libreoffice.org/master/en-US/text/swriter/01/accessibility_check.html?DbPAR=WRITER#bm_id551630942369429 Cheers -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
