[libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Drew Jensen
Howdy all, With the decision to bring the tabbed notebook bar from experimental to a standard feature I suppose the question becomes: What, if anything, does this mean for the user guides? For those that may not know, when the user chooses to use the notebook bar it will replace the standard

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes and fixes in Nextcloud for ODFAuthors

2018-11-13 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hi Luca Em 12/11/2018 22:48, Luca Daghino @ Libero escreveu: > And... while trying to login to NextCloud right now, I'm forwarded to > this page: > > https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/user_saml/saml/acs Can you contact hostmaster at thedocumentfoundation dot org explaining the issue?

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Drew Jensen
Sorry for double posting. So, for 6.2 the default will still be the standard toolbars as they are today, but the user will have the option of using the new UI components without having to enable experimental features. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 11:22 AM Drew Jensen wrote: > Howdy Cathy, > > The

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Drew, I am not clear about why it is considered standard. It appears that experimental features still need to be enabled. If it will be a standard feature, then it should be mentioned in Chapter 1. Since it will not be the default view, it seems like that should be enough. Cathy On

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Drew Jensen
Howdy Cathy, The code change making them standard was checked into the source just today, after the decision to move forward last week. The change will appear in the daily build binaries tomorrow or the next day. BTW, There is also a fair bit of talk about making this change the default

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Dave Barton
On 13.11.2018 13:43, Drew Jensen wrote: > Howdy all, > > With the decision to bring the tabbed notebook bar from experimental to a > standard feature I suppose the question becomes: > What, if anything, does this mean for the user guides? > > For those that may not know, when the user chooses to

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes and fixes in Nextcloud for ODFAuthors

2018-11-13 Thread Dave Barton
On 13.11.2018 00:48, Luca Daghino @ Libero wrote: > Il 05/11/2018 17:21, Olivier Hallot ha scritto: >> Hello fellow Authors >> >> This weekend we worked to fix the NextCloud service for Authors. The >> issues were a few and all were fixed. >> >> * The previous ODFAuthor share was a folder under

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Indexing Clarification Needed

2018-11-13 Thread Cathy Crumbley
oops. I meant to say that I am *NOT* questioning the rationale. On 11/13/2018 10:20 AM, Cathy Crumbley wrote: Hi Martin, I understand the need and certainly want to make sure that your needs are met. I am questioning the rationale. Rather, I am just trying to understand how it works.

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Indexing Clarification Needed

2018-11-13 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Martin, I understand the need and certainly want to make sure that your needs are met. I am questioning the rationale. Rather, I am just trying to understand how it works. Specifically: 1. How does simply clicking before a word or phrase rather than selecting it give the result you

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Drew Jensen
I may have misstated the situation for institutional users. Will need to follow up on that with folks in the Dev/UX world to check that. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 12:04 PM Drew Jensen wrote: > Hi Dave, > > From what I gathered there will be only one of those enabled. Which is, on > the list,

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Drew Jensen
Hi Dave, From what I gathered there will be only one of those enabled. Which is, on the list, 'Tabbed'. The others will remain as experimental. This means that for individual users after either a fresh install, or an upgrade, the old standard toolbars will be selected as the default interface,

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Dave Barton
Hi Drew, I don't think you have totally misstated the situation. From what I read, there is still much discussion and debate about what is the best way to provide institutional administrators with options to control this (and other) features. Thanks for keeping us posted. Dave On 13.11.2018

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft Proposal for a 6.x Guides Template

2018-11-13 Thread Dave Barton
Hi Cathy, Thanks, your comments and observations are much appreciated. It's getting late here and I need a bit of time to accurately formulate my replies, so I will answer in the next 12-18 hours. Regards Dave On 13.11.2018 03:50, Cathy Crumbley wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Your revision of the

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Dan Lewis
On 11/13/18 11:47 AM, Dave Barton wrote: On 13.11.2018 13:43, Drew Jensen wrote: Howdy all, With the decision to bring the tabbed notebook bar from experimental to a standard feature I suppose the question becomes: What, if anything, does this mean for the user guides? For those that may not

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Dave Barton
On 13.11.2018 17:06, Dan Lewis wrote: > > On 11/13/18 11:47 AM, Dave Barton wrote: >> On 13.11.2018 13:43, Drew Jensen wrote: >>> Howdy all, >>> >>> With the decision to bring the tabbed notebook bar from experimental >>> to a >>> standard feature I suppose the question becomes: >>> What, if

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hi Dan, all Em 13/11/2018 15:06, Dan Lewis escreveu: > +1 I have not done any work using the notebook bar so I have no idea > how this will work. I also notice that Help for 6.2 Alpha1 does not > have the menu entries correct. View > Toolbar Layout does not exist. > It should be View > User