Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users] Modify a dot file with writer

2011-12-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks Gary :)  I thought the difference between doc and dot was more 
complicated.  

Someone on the users list suggested using ODF 1.0 templates instead and the op 
seems happy with that.  I might send her your suggestion too because it's a 
neat hackish style way which is really cool :)

Thanks and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Wed, 21/12/11, Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com wrote:

From: Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users] Modify a dot 
file with writer
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 21 December, 2011, 2:47

I simply changed the file extension in the filename using the O/S 
afterward from DOC to DOT when porting DOT files from Writer. Those LO 
DOT files seemed to work OK.

Gary

On 12/20/2011 3:11 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Interesting.  It is possible to Save As a template for Excel (xlt) and for 
 the presentation one but just not for Word. 

 It is possible to save as an OpenDocument Format template and MS Office 2007 
 and 2010 claims to be able to read ODFs.  Sadly they can only read the older 
 versions.  To make LO use the older formats try

 Tools - Options - +Load/Save - General

 In the middle change the drop-down from
 1.2 Extended (recommended) to
 1.0/1.1
 It might work but it might not.  It's still very possible that MS Office 
 might move pictures/logos around a bit and perhaps other things too. 

 So, the answer really is no imo.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Tue, 20/12/11, Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl  wrote:

 From: Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Modify a dot file with writer
 To: us...@global.libreoffice.org
 Cc: Maxime de Roucymdero...@linagora.com
 Date: Tuesday, 20 December, 2011, 18:35

 Hi Maxime,

 Maxime de Roucy wrote (20-12-11 18:53)

 Could you confirm (or invalide) me that modifying .dot file in writer is
 impossible ?
 Never tried it before, but indeed: no .dot filter for writing a file.

 Regards,

 --  - Cor
   - http://nl.libreoffice.org


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users] Modify a dot file with writer

2011-12-21 Thread Gary Schnabl
I figured that changing the file extension from DOC to DOT in the O/S 
seemed straightforward enough, especially after the resulting DOT 
template seemed to work OK.


Gary


Somebody else's take on that issue...
http://www.techtalkz.com/microsoft-office-word/459780-changing-dot-back-doc.html
*Re: changing .dot back to .doc*

I have used templates (dot) files quite often in Word 2003 (have not 
migrated

to 2007 yet) but have found a couple of interesting things that might prove
useful.

1. If you save a dot file anywhere other than Word's template directory
it generally does not behave any differently than a document saved with the
doc extension. You can open it, edit it, overwrite it, rename it, etc.
2. You can create a template using any file containing doc extension simply
by changing the extension to dot and saving it. If you do not specify a path
it will be saved to the template directory.
3. A document with a dot extension will not behave like a template unless
they are saved in Word's template directory (i.e. it is not protected from
overwrite when it is saved anywhere else).
4. When you start a new document using a template from the templates
directory it will automatically be converted to a doc extension when you 
save

it (i.e. preventing overwrite).
5. You cannot revise a template simply by saving your revised template by
the same name. Word will not allow you to overwrite a template already in
the templates directory.
6. Any template file saved to a directory other than the template
directory when moved to the template directory (i.e. using Windows Explorer)
will behave like any other template in the diretory and will appear on the
templates list when you start a new document.
7. Editing an existing template file is easier if you move it from the
template diretory (i.e using Windows Explorer), change it's extension to 
doc,

edit it and then simply resave it with the dot extension (this also allows
you to save the template by the same name since it no longer exists in the
template directory)

Hope the above helps


On 12/21/2011 7:17 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks Gary :)  I thought the difference between doc and dot was more complicated. 


Someone on the users list suggested using ODF 1.0 templates instead and the op 
seems happy with that.  I might send her your suggestion too because it's a 
neat hackish style way which is really cool :)

Thanks and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Wed, 21/12/11, Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com  wrote:

From: Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users] Modify a dot 
file with writer
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 21 December, 2011, 2:47

I simply changed the file extension in the filename using the O/S
afterward from DOC to DOT when porting DOT files from Writer. Those LO
DOT files seemed to work OK.

Gary

On 12/20/2011 3:11 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Interesting.  It is possible to Save As a template for Excel (xlt) and for the 
presentation one but just not for Word.

It is possible to save as an OpenDocument Format template and MS Office 2007 
and 2010 claims to be able to read ODFs.  Sadly they can only read the older 
versions.  To make LO use the older formats try

Tools - Options - +Load/Save - General

In the middle change the drop-down from
1.2 Extended (recommended) to
1.0/1.1
It might work but it might not.  It's still very possible that MS Office might 
move pictures/logos around a bit and perhaps other things too.

So, the answer really is no imo.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 20/12/11, Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl   wrote:

From: Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Modify a dot file with writer
To: us...@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: Maxime de Roucymdero...@linagora.com
Date: Tuesday, 20 December, 2011, 18:35

Hi Maxime,

Maxime de Roucy wrote (20-12-11 18:53)


Could you confirm (or invalide) me that modifying .dot file in writer is
impossible ?

Never tried it before, but indeed: no .dot filter for writing a file.

Regards,

--  - Cor
- http://nl.libreoffice.org


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users] Modify a dot file with writer

2011-12-20 Thread Gary Schnabl
I simply changed the file extension in the filename using the O/S 
afterward from DOC to DOT when porting DOT files from Writer. Those LO 
DOT files seemed to work OK.


Gary

On 12/20/2011 3:11 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Interesting.  It is possible to Save As a template for Excel (xlt) and for the presentation one but just not for Word. 


It is possible to save as an OpenDocument Format template and MS Office 2007 
and 2010 claims to be able to read ODFs.  Sadly they can only read the older 
versions.  To make LO use the older formats try

Tools - Options - +Load/Save - General

In the middle change the drop-down from
1.2 Extended (recommended) to
1.0/1.1
It might work but it might not.  It's still very possible that MS Office might move pictures/logos around a bit and perhaps other things too. 


So, the answer really is no imo.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 20/12/11, Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl  wrote:

From: Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Modify a dot file with writer
To: us...@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: Maxime de Roucymdero...@linagora.com
Date: Tuesday, 20 December, 2011, 18:35

Hi Maxime,

Maxime de Roucy wrote (20-12-11 18:53)


Could you confirm (or invalide) me that modifying .dot file in writer is
impossible ?

Never tried it before, but indeed: no .dot filter for writing a file.

Regards,

--  - Cor
  - http://nl.libreoffice.org


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