Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki Message

[Dave]

On 21.08.2017 09:17, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> On 21.08.2017 10:03, Dave wrote:
>> I cannot locate a copy of Jonathon's suggestion
> 
> It is here:
> https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/msg11712.html

Thanks, but that post does not appear to be directly relevant to the
subject of wiki duplication being discussed here.

Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki Message

[Ilmari Lauhakangas]

On 21.08.2017 10:03, Dave wrote:

I cannot locate a copy of Jonathon's suggestion


It is here: 
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/msg11712.html


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki Message

[Dave]

On 21.08.2017 02:13, Kenneth Hanson wrote:
> On that topic though, this sounds like another place to eliminate
> duplication. Assuming the files on ODFAuthors are up to date, we could keep
> everything there and archive what's on the wiki (like Jonathon suggested
> for old user documentation).
> 
> --Kenneth

I would be in favor of anything that helps to reduce duplication.

I cannot locate a copy of Jonathon's suggestion and I am unclear about
the detail of what is being proposed here. If my guess is correct, you
are suggesting removing (archiving) the downloadable files on the wiki
and replacing them with links to the published files on ODF Authors,
which is the source for those same files uploaded to the wiki. This
would seem to be a very sensible approach, but there are 2 caveats:

1. There might be some restriction on linking files/images on external
sites to our wiki, see: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Help:Editing
Even if such a restriction exists, it might be possible for infra to
configure an exception for the ODF Authors Plone instance running on our
servers.

2. Not all native language projects use ODF Authors as their
documentation work space, so this might not be a suitable option for
those projects. I would recommend speaking with Sophie on this point.

There may well be other aspects I have overlooked here.

Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki Message

[Kenneth Hanson]

Sure, I can do that.

On that topic though, this sounds like another place to eliminate
duplication. Assuming the files on ODFAuthors are up to date, we could keep
everything there and archive what's on the wiki (like Jonathon suggested
for old user documentation).

--Kenneth

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 3:11 AM, Dave  wrote:

> On 20.08.2017 12:09, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> > Here are the templates uploaded by Dave:
> >
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO_5_0_Chapter_Template.ott
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO_50_Chapter_Template.ott
> >
> > On 20.08.2017 08:17, Jean Weber wrote:
> >> Kenneth,
> >> I dealt with and uploaded most of the iterations of the LO
> >> documentation template, including the one for LO5. Perhaps I can
> >> answer your question, if you ask it here.
> >>
> >> --Jean
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Kenneth Hanson
> >>  wrote:
> >>> Well this doesn't make much sense. I clicked the username on the file
> >>> page
> >>> to get to the talk page, so it is definitely the same.
> >>>
> >>> --Kenneth
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 5:05 AM, Dave  wrote:
> >>>
>  Kenneth,
> 
>  You left a note for me on the wiki message board about the LO5
>  documentation template. Since I have never modified or uploaded that
>  template to the wiki I am unable to respond to your request to review
>  what you suggest are duplicates.
> 
>  Dave
>
> Yes, the wiki certainly shows my ID, but I have no recollection of
> making such a clumsy upload of those files 2 years ago, neither can I
> think of any good reason why I would have done so. The only LO 5.0
> template I use is Jean's draft last modified Dec 20, 2016 07:58 on the
> ODF Authors website. I now wonder how many other little gems credited to
> me are lurking on the wiki. Maybe time to change my wiki credentials.
>
> In any case, neither of the files are the valid current template, so I
> suggest Kenneth replaces one with the current template and changes the
> related links as appropriate.
>
> Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki Message

[Dave]

On 20.08.2017 12:09, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> Here are the templates uploaded by Dave:
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO_5_0_Chapter_Template.ott
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO_50_Chapter_Template.ott
> 
> On 20.08.2017 08:17, Jean Weber wrote:
>> Kenneth,
>> I dealt with and uploaded most of the iterations of the LO
>> documentation template, including the one for LO5. Perhaps I can
>> answer your question, if you ask it here.
>>
>> --Jean
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Kenneth Hanson
>>  wrote:
>>> Well this doesn't make much sense. I clicked the username on the file
>>> page
>>> to get to the talk page, so it is definitely the same.
>>>
>>> --Kenneth
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 5:05 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>>
 Kenneth,

 You left a note for me on the wiki message board about the LO5
 documentation template. Since I have never modified or uploaded that
 template to the wiki I am unable to respond to your request to review
 what you suggest are duplicates.

 Dave

Yes, the wiki certainly shows my ID, but I have no recollection of
making such a clumsy upload of those files 2 years ago, neither can I
think of any good reason why I would have done so. The only LO 5.0
template I use is Jean's draft last modified Dec 20, 2016 07:58 on the
ODF Authors website. I now wonder how many other little gems credited to
me are lurking on the wiki. Maybe time to change my wiki credentials.

In any case, neither of the files are the valid current template, so I
suggest Kenneth replaces one with the current template and changes the
related links as appropriate.

Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki Message

[Ilmari Lauhakangas]

Here are the templates uploaded by Dave:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO_5_0_Chapter_Template.ott
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO_50_Chapter_Template.ott

On 20.08.2017 08:17, Jean Weber wrote:

Kenneth,
I dealt with and uploaded most of the iterations of the LO
documentation template, including the one for LO5. Perhaps I can
answer your question, if you ask it here.

--Jean


On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Kenneth Hanson  
wrote:
Well this doesn't make much sense. I clicked the username on the file 
page

to get to the talk page, so it is definitely the same.

--Kenneth

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 5:05 AM, Dave  wrote:


Kenneth,

You left a note for me on the wiki message board about the LO5
documentation template. Since I have never modified or uploaded that
template to the wiki I am unable to respond to your request to review
what you suggest are duplicates.

Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki Message

[Jean Weber]

Kenneth,
I dealt with and uploaded most of the iterations of the LO
documentation template, including the one for LO5. Perhaps I can
answer your question, if you ask it here.

--Jean


On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Kenneth Hanson  wrote:
> Well this doesn't make much sense. I clicked the username on the file page
> to get to the talk page, so it is definitely the same.
>
> --Kenneth
>
> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 5:05 AM, Dave  wrote:
>
>> Kenneth,
>>
>> You left a note for me on the wiki message board about the LO5
>> documentation template. Since I have never modified or uploaded that
>> template to the wiki I am unable to respond to your request to review
>> what you suggest are duplicates.
>>
>> Dave
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