Hello Vivi,

Bebrapa waktu yg lampau, kasus diabetik selalu diidentikakan dg org 
diatas 30 tahun, dimana salah satu penyebabnya adalah karena diatas umur 
tersebut, kondisi produksi hormonal seseorg, menjadi berkurang, sehingga 
tingkat toleransi org tersebut terhadap masuknya gula kedalam tubuh 
menjadi tdk terpross dg baik, dan dikenal sebagai diabetik.
Dlm tahun2 terakir ini, kasus diabetik tdk hanya bagi yg diatas 30 
tahun, tetapi juga menghindapi anak2 bahkan balita.
Seperti diketahui juga bahwa protein susu yg tdk bisa ditoleransikan 
oleh sementara anak, di ubah, dg bentuk susu yg diisolasi protein susu 
sapinya, atau diberikan susu dg protein dari sang kacang ajaib soya
Memang belum ada penelitian yg menunjukan adanya korelasi antara 
penggunaan soya sebagai susu yg baru dimulai pada bebrapa tahun terakir 
ini saja, tetapi seiring dg penggunaan soya sebagai susu bayi/balita, 
demkian juga case diabetik balita muncul beserta dg case hormonal lainnya.
Isoflafone dlm soy, sangat tinggi, dg demikian ygterjadi dlm susu balita 
dg soy, kadar estrogennya bisa mencapai 5 butir pil KB perhari, yg 
artinya dg soy milk ekslusif, maka kita menjadikan sang baby melakukan 
produksi penstabilan utk menetralisis 5 pill KB yg diminumnya dg 
demikian, mau dan tdk, tubuhnya akan memproduksi hormonal tandingan, yg 
pada akirnya menimbulkan instabiliti hormon dlm tubuhnya secara dini.

Soy bukan kacang ajaib dg 1001 kandungan yg bermanfaat bagi tubuh; 
penelitian lanjut akirnya ditampilkan oleh American Heart Association 
bahwa pernyataan bermanfaat bagi penderita jantung yg dinyatakan sebagai 
penurun LDL, dinyatakan soy tdk bermanfaat
Ini saya copy kan dari berbagai sumber.


  Newest Research On Why You Should Avoid Soy

Birth Control Pills For Babies

But it was the isoflavones in infant formula that gave the Jameses the 
most cause for concern. In 1998, investigators reported that the daily 
exposure of infants to isoflavones in soy infant formula is 6 to11 times 
higher on a body-weight basis than the dose that has hormonal effects in 
adults consuming soy foods. Circulating concentrations of isoflavones in 
infants fed soy-based formula were 13,000 to 22,000 times higher than 
plasma estradiol concentrations in infants on cow's milk formula.57

Approximately 25 per cent of bottle-fed children in the US receive 
soy-based formula - a much higher percentage than in other parts of the 
Western world. Fitzpatrick estimated that an infant exclusively fed soy 
formula receives the estrogenic equivalent (based on body weight) of at 
least five birth control pills per day.58 By contrast, almost no 
phytoestrogens have been detected in dairy-based infant formula or in 
human milk, even when the mother consumes soy products.

Scientists have known for years that soy-based formula can cause thyroid 
problems in babies. But what are the effects of soy products on the 
hormonal development of the infant, both male and female?

Male infants undergo a "testosterone surge" during the first few months 
of life, when testosterone levels may be as high as those of an adult 
male. During this period, the infant is programmed to express male 
characteristics after puberty, not only in the development of his sexual 
organs and other masculine physical traits, but also in setting patterns 
in the brain characteristic of male behavior.

In monkeys, deficiency of male hormones impairs the development of 
spatial perception (which, in humans, is normally more acute in men than 
in women), of learning ability and of visual discrimination tasks (such 
as would be required for reading).59 It goes without saying that future 
patterns of sexual orientation may also be influenced by the early 
hormonal environment.

Male children exposed during gestation to diethylstilbestrol (DES), a 
synthetic estrogen that has effects on animals similar to those of 
phytoestrogens from soy, had testes smaller than normal on manturation.60

Learning disabilities, especially in male children, have reached 
epidemic proportions. Soy infant feeding - which began in earnest in the 
early 1970s - cannot be ignored as a probable cause for these tragic 
developments.

As for girls, an alarming number are entering puberty much earlier than 
normal, according to a recent study reported in the journal 
Pediatrics.61 Investigators found that one per cent of all girls now 
show signs of puberty, such as breast development or pubic hair, before 
the age of three; by age eight, 14.7 per cent of white girls and almost 
50 per cent of African-American girls have one or both of these 
characteristics.

New data indicate that environmental estrogens such as PCBs and DDE (a 
breakdown product of DDT) may cause early sexual development in girls.62 
In the 1986 Puerto Rico Premature Thelarche study, the most significant 
dietary association with premature sexual development was not chicken - 
as reported in the press - but soy infant formula.63

The consequences of this truncated childhood are tragic. Young girls 
with mature bodies must cope with feelings and urges that most children 
are not well-equipped to handle. And early maturation in girls is 
frequently a harbinger for problems with the reproductive system later 
in life, including failure to menstruate, infertility and breast cancer.

Parents who have contacted the Jameses recount other problems associated 
with children of both sexes who were fed soy-based formula, including 
extreme emotional behavior, asthma, immune system problems, pituitary 
insufficiency, thyroid disorders and irritable bowel syndrome - the same 
endocrine and digestive havoc that afflicted the Jameses' parrots.

57. Setchell, K.D. et al., "Isoflavone content of infant formulas and 
the metabolic fate of these early phytoestrogens in early life", 
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, December 1998 Supplement, 
1453S-1461S.
58. Irvine, C. et al., "The Potential Adverse Effects of Soybean 
Phytoestrogens in Infant Feeding", New Zealand Medical Journal May 24, 
1995, p. 318.
59. Hagger, C. and J. Bachevalier, "Visual habit formation in 
3-month-old monkeys (Macaca mulatta): reversal of sex difference 
following neonatal manipulations of androgen", Behavior and Brain 
Research (1991) 45:57-63.
60. Ross, R.K. et al., "Effect of in-utero exposure to 
diethylstilbestrol on age at onset of puberty and on post-pubertal 
hormone levels in boys", Canadian Medical Association Journal 
128(10):1197-8, May 15, 1983.
61. Herman-Giddens, Marcia E. et al., "Secondary Sexual Characteristics 
and Menses in Young Girls Seen in Office Practice: A Study from the 
Pediatric Research in Office Settings Network", Pediatrics 
99(4):505-512, April 1997.
62. Rachel's Environment & Health Weekly 263, "The Wingspread 
Statement", Part 1, December 11, 1991; Colborn, Theo, Dianne Dumanoski 
and John Peterson Myers, Our Stolen Future, Little, Brown & Company, 
London, 1996.
63. Freni-Titulaer, L.W., "Premature Thelarch in Puerto Rico: A search 
for environmental factors", American Journal of Diseases of Children 
140(12):1263-1267, December 1986.

Dr. Mercola's Comment:

Considering the growing number of studies regarding the harm you can do 
to your body by eating non-fermented soy, it's not completely surprising 
that the conventional medical establishment may finally be getting it ...

In addition to the complete lack of benefits with regard to cholesterol, 
the AHA review also found that, contrary to some popular myths:

    * Soy isoflavones don't prevent various forms of cancer (prostate, 
breast or uterine).
    * Neither soy protein nor soy isoflavones are useful in limiting 
menopause-related symptoms.
    * The jury remains out on any soy-related benefits in treating 
osteoporosis.

A telling quote by a noted cardiologist that speaks volumes about soy's 
true worth: "If [patients] are radically altering their diet, where 
they're only eating soy in the hopes that this is going to bring their 
cholesterol down, they're deluding themselves."

In fact, non-fermented soy products contain a number of potentially 
health-disrupting "anti-nutrients", such as phytic acid. You would be 
wisest to avoid any such foods, which include:

    * Tofu
    * Soy milk
    * Soy hot dogs and other "meatless" products made with soy or 
textured vegetable protein (TVP), which is usually soy based
    * Soy yogurt and ice cream
    * Soy protein

The fermentation process, however, drastically decreases the levels of 
the dangerous components of soy, and also aids in liberating otherwise 
difficult to digest nutrients in the soybean, making them more available 
for absorption.

Fermented soy products (such as miso, soy sauce, natto, and tempeh) are 
therefore safe to eat. However, don't expect "miracle cures" for your 
cholesterol even from safe soy foods and can certainly be part of a 
healthy diet.

If you really want to lower your cholesterol levels, there are two 
primary strategies that work well over 99 percent of the time if 
properly implemented. They are:

    * Daily cardiovascular exercise
    * Low grain diet

A healthy food plan with little to no grains and sugars will effectively 
lower insulin levels, as elevated insulin levels are one of the primary 
drivers for raising cholesterol.

And just as important is exercising regularly. The key to exercising 
effectively is to keep in mind three important variables: length of 
time, frequency and intensity. I encourage my patients to gradually 
increase the amount of time they are exercising to 60 to 90 minutes a 
day. Initially the frequency is daily.

This is a treatment dose until you normalize their weight or insulin 
levels. Once normalized, you will only need to exercise three to four 
times a week.

Also, you should exercise hard enough so that it is difficult to talk to 
someone next to you. When you are exercising that hard your 
cardiovascular system is under such a significant amount of stress that 
the mere act of talking makes you unable to provide your body with 
enough oxygen.

However, if you cannot carry on a conversation AT ALL, then you have 
gone too far and need to decrease the intensity.

Anyone interested in regulating their cholesterol without drugs can find 
these methods completely explained in my book, the Total Health Program. 
Most anyone who follows it will find that their cholesterol levels will 
reach a healthy level, and numerous other health complaints will 
disappear as well.


Published online before print January 17, 2006
(Circulation 2006, doi:10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.106.171052)

Submitted on ,
Accepted on ,


    Soy Protein, Isoflavones, and Cardiovascular Health. An American
    Heart Association Science Advisory for Professionals From the
    Nutrition Committee

Frank M. Sacks MD, Alice Lichtenstein DSc, Linda Van Horn PhD, RD, 
William Harris PhD, Penny Kris-Etherton PhD, Mary Winston EdD, for the 
American Heart Association Nutrition Committee

Abstract--Soy protein and isoflavones (phytoestrogens) have gained 
considerable attention for their potential role in improving risk 
factors for cardiovascular disease. This scientific advisory assesses 
the more recent work published on soy protein and its component 
isoflavones. In the majority of 22 randomized trials, isolated soy 
protein with isoflavones, as compared with milk or other proteins, 
decreased LDL cholesterol concentrations; the average effect was 3%. 
This reduction is very small relative to the large amount of soy protein 
tested in these studies, averaging 50 g, about half the usual total 
daily protein intake. No significant effects on HDL cholesterol, 
triglycerides, lipoprotein(a), or blood pressure were evident. Among 19 
studies of soy isoflavones, the average effect on LDL cholesterol and 
other lipid risk factors was nil. Soy protein and isoflavones have not 
been shown to lessen vasomotor symptoms of menopause, and results are 
mixed with regard to soy's ability to slow postmenopausal bone loss. The 
efficacy and safety of soy isoflavones for preventing or treating cancer 
of the breast, endometrium, and prostate are not established; evidence 
from clinical trials is meager and cautionary with regard to a possible 
adverse effect. For this reason, use of isoflavone supplements in food 
or pills is not recommended. Thus, earlier research indicating that soy 
protein has clinically important favorable effects as compared with 
other proteins has not been confirmed. In contrast, many soy products 
should be beneficial to cardiovascular and overall health because of 
their high content of polyunsaturated fats, fiber, vitamins, and 
minerals and low content of saturated fat.


Key words: AHA Scientific Statements . cardiovascular diseases . soybean 
proteins . isoflavones . cholesterol

Jadi kalau anak anda bukan protein susu sapi intolerant, maka sebaiknya 
tdk diberikan susu soy; jangan terpengaruh dg iklan, karena kalau 
bermasalah dg anak dan cucu kita apa bisa kita klaim sebagai kesalahn yg 
membuat produk tersebut? tentu tidak!!.

Demikian, semoga bermanfaat dan membuat kita lebih smart dlm memilih 
produk bagi keluarga kita.
Wassallam

aan vivi wrote:

>Halo dr.Donny,
>   
>  Apa maksud pernyataan di bawah :
>  
>Adakah, case diabetik dini bagi balita disebabkan oleh soy milk????
>   
>  Karena anak saya 2,5 tahun mengkonsumsi soy milk kalengan.
>   
>  Tolong penjelasannya, terima kasih
>  
>"Dr.(Naturopathy) Ir. Donny Hosea MBA. PhD." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Hello,
>Problema yg ada adalah, pasien merasa bisa menggunakan obat tertentu dg 
>membaca kandungan dan penggnaannya, kemudian DISESUAIKAN DG PENYAKIT YG 
>DIDERITANYA, pada hal membaca pre caution, contra indikasi, efek lain 
>obat lebih dipetingkan, sementara pemberian obat sebaiknya dg pengwasan 
>dokter dan tdk melebihi dosage, sambil melihat reaksi tubuh terhadap 
>obat sangat memegang peranan.
>Kemasan obat dibuang, ada gunanya, karena dg demikian sang pasien tdk dg 
>serta merta sok tau dan membeli sendiri obat utk menjadi dokter bagi 
>diri sendiri, bahakan ada yg bertahun tahun menggunakan obat yg smaa 
>tanpa kontrol dan berakibat rusak atau bertambah parahnya penyakit yg 
>terinteraksi kedalam induk persoalan.
>Contoh yg sederhana adalah prednison, ketika penyakit akut yg diderita 
>sukar disembuhkan dg obat biasa, dokter cendrung memberikan sang obat 
>dewa ini, sanga apsien merasa bahwa obat ini sangat bagus, mka dminum 
>terus agar MERASA enak tanpa ditunjang dg pemeriksaan fisik, lab, mau 
>pun image yg cocok bagi penyakitnya.
>Tdk terlalu lama, mungkin 1/2 tahun, mungkin 1 tahun, mungkin juga 
>sampai  tahun, hasilnya kerusakan oragn yg lainnya menyusul sebgai 
>akibat ulah pasien sendiri yg tdk embali mengontrol, danmerasa toh 
>dokter membeerikan obat yg sama kalau ia datang berkunjung.
>Sama halnya dg penggunaan nutrient dan makanan, pasien merasa baik, 
>nampak sehat, MERASA enakan lalu diteruskan sneiri tanpa konsutasi lagi 
>dan berakibat yg bukan merupakan tanggung jawab sang dokter????
>
>Mengetahui sesuatu itu bagus, tetapi menggunakan pengetahuan itu, perlu 
>bijaksana, sesuai dg porsi dan penempatan pengetahuan tersebut dg baik 
>dan benar.
>Buku IMMS, MIMS, DOI, mungkin dijual bebas, mungkin diberikan secara 
>gratis (nutrient guide) tetapi mengetahui lebih dalam ttg efek to body, 
>efek to body system, sangat perlu agar tdk menjerumuskan system tubuh 
>kepada perubahan yg membahayakan.
>Di Internet pun banyak hal yg dikemukakan ttg jenis obat yg beredar, so 
>ilmu nak bisa dibendung utk diketahui, tetapi menjadi bijaksana perlu 
>dlm penggunaan ilmu tersebut.
>
>Siapa yg tdk kenal Soy (kedele) sang kacang ajaib???
>Tahu, tempe, kecap, snak, bahkan kini jadi daging2an, ayam2an,
>Efek perubahan hormon tubuh yg dipengaruhi soy terhadap system tubuh 
>sangat dasyat, tetapi karena murah, katanya baik lalu dikonsumsi bahkan 
>oleh bayi; efeknya:
>Adakah, case diabetik dini bagi balita disebabkan oleh soy milk????
>Adakah case, gangguan hormonal dan berakibat myoma, serta canser 
>payudara yg meningkat disebabkan oleh soy milk???
>
>Jadi kembali pada pokok persoalan, adakah pasien bisa dipercaya, tdk 
>menggunakan obat tanpa konsultasi????
>Adakah dokter yg mau menjelaskan efek obat bagi system tubuh apabila 
>pasien menggunakannya???
>Utk ini masih berbekas dlm ingatan saya, ketika saya belum mempelajari 
>Naturopathy, dan diberikan obat utk menurunkan tryglicerida dan asam 
>urat saya oleh kakak saya yg mengakibatkan saya jadi 7 keliling setelah 
>dosage yg ke 3, kemudian baru menjelaskan bahwa reaksi tubuh memang 
>demikian bagi sementara org.
>
>So, berpulang pada diri kita, mau sehat dg baik dan benar, atau yg 
>penting RASANYA saya bertambah sehat.
>
>Semoga bermanfaat,
>Wassallam,
>
>
>
>Saleem wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Betul Pak Made, sekarang ini sangat mudah mendapatkan obat di apotik, saya 
>>juga pernah coba beli obat gol anti anseitas di slah satu apotik di jogja 
>>ternyata dilayanin juga. Lagi pula buku2 mengenai obat sprt ISO  banyak di 
>>jual bebas.
>>Saya justru sangat senang dgn semakin terbuka nya ilmu kesehatan dan mengenai 
>>obat2 dari buku2 yg beredar dipasaran dan apalagi dgn adanya internet, kita 
>>dapat memilih obat, mengetahui kandunganya, dosisnya dan efek sampingya. Coba 
>>kita tengok kebelakang bbrp tahun lampau setiap kita berobat kedokter kita 
>>tidak pernah dikasih penjelasan yg lengkap mengenai obat yg diberikan, lagi 
>>pula biasa dokter mencopot label kemasan obat. Saya jadi ingin tanya pada 
>>teman2 disini yg menjalani profesi dokter, apakah ada dalam mata kuliah etika 
>>profesi kedokteran setiap memberika obat ke pasien selalu membuang label obat 
>>atau ini hanya semacam kebiasaan dari senior2nya.
>>
>>
>>dokter_umum@yahoogroups.com wrote: There is 1 message in this issue.
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>>Topics in this digest:
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>>     1. Re[2]: Tanya ttg demam thypoid
>>          From: imcw 
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>>Message: 1         
>>  Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:07:43 +0800
>>  From: imcw 
>>Subject: Re[2]: Tanya ttg demam thypoid
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>>Mia Kusumawati wrote,
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>>MK> Sebaiknya pertanyaan-pertanyaan tersebut dijawab Japri saja Pak Made,
>>MK> karena bisa memberi 'inspirasi' orang awam untuk membeli obat-obatan
>>MK> itu sendiri ke apotek (tanpa resep dokter).
>>
>>kalau cuma untuk dosis obat, saya rasa tidak masalah...buku iso dan
>>mimss yang memuat jenis jenis obat beserta dosis dan indikasi
>>penggunaannya banyak dijual secara bebas di toko buku...dan memang
>>buku ini diperuntukan bagi konsumsi publik alias peredarannya tidak
>>dibatasi...tetapi mau bagaimana lagi, kita hidup di indonesia dimana
>>segala macam obat bisa dibeli bebas di apotek...
>>--
>>I Made Cock Wirawan
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>>milis kesehatan umum : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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