[Dorset] Fan speed control

2010-05-29 Thread Peter Merchant
This all started out as a desire to control the fan speed on this computer. In XP I use Speedfan. First, to measure the speed I installed Conky. Problem 1: I cannot figure out how to display the fan speed, but I have got the acpi temperature showing. Problem 2: Every time I start an

Re: [Dorset] Fan speed control

2010-05-29 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Peter, First, to measure the speed I installed Conky. Problem 1: I cannot figure out how to display the fan speed, but I have got the acpi temperature showing. I don't know about Conky, but in the past I'm used sensors(1) from the lm-sensors package. It's old and not properly

[Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Simon O'Riordan
Fedora is simply dreadful. I'm aborting it. If it was a baby, it would be Eraserhead. Next candidate: Simply Mepis 8.5. It's a KDE, I would rather have Gnome, but I will give it a try. Simono -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Tim
On Saturday 29 May 2010 13:09:17 Simon O'Riordan wrote: Fedora is simply dreadful. I'm aborting it. If it was a baby, it would be Eraserhead. Next candidate: Simply Mepis 8.5. It's a KDE, I would rather have Gnome, but I will give it a try. Simono If you need any assistances with Simply

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Simon O'Riordan
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:23 +0100, Tim wrote: On Saturday 29 May 2010 13:09:17 Simon O'Riordan wrote: Fedora is simply dreadful. I'm aborting it. If it was a baby, it would be Eraserhead. Next candidate: Simply Mepis 8.5. It's a KDE, I would rather have Gnome, but I will give it a try.

Re: [Dorset] Fan speed control

2010-05-29 Thread Peter Merchant
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:31 +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Peter, First, to measure the speed I installed Conky. Problem 1: I cannot figure out how to display the fan speed, but I have got the acpi temperature showing. I don't know about Conky, but in the past I'm used sensors(1)

Re: [Dorset] Fan speed control

2010-05-29 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Peter, I don't know about Conky, but in the past I'm used sensors(1) from the lm-sensors package. Apt-get cannot find lm-sensors. That's odd. It seems to be available. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=lm-sensors Does dpkg -l '*sens*' list it? Cheers, Ralph.

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Simon O'Riordan
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:59 +0100, Dan Dart wrote: Fedora is simply dreadful. Why? I've never tried it so please enlighten me on why it sucks so much. Networking hobbled. Kernel crashes. Feeble standard repositories. Sound disappears. Sound controls disappear too. Can't be configured for

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Dan Dart
Networking hobbled. Kernel crashes. Feeble standard repositories. Sound disappears. Sound controls disappear too. Can't be configured for Samba. Video editor programmes 'unstart'. Freezes at kernel level on boot up-login. Apart from that, it's brilliant! Ubuntu has: Networking

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Simon O'Riordan
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 14:24 +0100, Dan Dart wrote: Networking hobbled. Kernel crashes. Feeble standard repositories. Sound disappears. Sound controls disappear too. Can't be configured for Samba. Video editor programmes 'unstart'. Freezes at kernel level on boot up-login. Apart

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Simon O'Riordan
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 14:43 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 14:24 +0100, Dan Dart wrote: Networking hobbled. Kernel crashes. Feeble standard repositories. Sound disappears. Sound controls disappear too. Can't be configured for Samba. Video editor

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Simon O'Riordan
SimplyMEPIS? Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear oh dear. Look, boys, I've already got a job. What do I need this grief for? Actually I'm having some success with the Mepis boys' product. Still not as easy as Ubuntu, but I am still at the stage of quite liking it. Simono -- Next meeting: C4L and

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Simon O'Riordan
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 15:59 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: SimplyMEPIS? Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear oh dear. Look, boys, I've already got a job. What do I need this grief for? Actually I'm having some success with the Mepis boys' product. Still not as easy as Ubuntu, but I am still at

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Simon O'Riordan
Thanks Tim. I am now in possession of a fully operational Death Star, sorry, Mepis Installation. Can't get it to see my Ubuntus yet, but they can see it very easily and when I make a change it implements straight away. I couldn't understand why the system speaker was being used. Then I plugged the

Re: [Dorset] Fan speed control

2010-05-29 Thread Peter Merchant
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 14:17 +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote: dpkg -l '*sens*' pet...@peterm-desktop:~$ dpkg -l '*sens*' Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Tim
Glad you are enjoying Mepis. Tim On Saturday 29 May 2010 16:37:14 Simon O'Riordan wrote: Thanks Tim. I am now in possession of a fully operational Death Star, sorry, Mepis Installation. Can't get it to see my Ubuntus yet, but they can see it very easily and when I make a change it

Re: [Dorset] Fan speed control

2010-05-29 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Peter, On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 14:17 +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote: dpkg -l '*sens*' pet...@peterm-desktop:~$ dpkg -l '*sens*' Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required

[Dorset] 10.04? Not bloody likely

2010-05-29 Thread Mark Elkins
Read this thread at the time and kind of thought I'd would stick to the Hardy Heron. However someone gave me a laptop which had an amusing black screen when XP was booted up because it went wrong a few years back and the costs quoted to fix put them off fixing it. So they stored this Pentium 4

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread John Cooper
On 29/05/10 13:09, Simon O'Riordan wrote: Fedora is simply dreadful. I'm aborting it. If it was a baby, it would be Eraserhead. Next candidate: Simply Mepis 8.5. It's a KDE, I would rather have Gnome, but I will give it a try. Simono Sounds like a workman blaming his tools ;-) I'm been

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Sat, 29 May 2010 21:25:02 +0100, voluntar...@btopenworld.com said: As a workman, if somebody gave me a banana to knock in nails, I would blame the person who gave me the banana. But if thousands and thousands - maybe millions - of people were successfully using bananas to knock in nails,

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Simon O'Riordan
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 21:30 +0100, Keith Edmunds wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2010 21:25:02 +0100, voluntar...@btopenworld.com said: As a workman, if somebody gave me a banana to knock in nails, I would blame the person who gave me the banana. But if thousands and thousands - maybe millions -

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Tim
At the end of the day we have all had those distro that looked good on paper but once we have committed it to disk it a different ball game and that can be down to A) lack of user knowledge, B) bad hardware combination (also linked to A) and C) the fact that some of us just want to get on

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread John Cooper
On 29/05/10 21:46, Simon O'Riordan wrote: I didn't make it swallow 20% of a 250 GB drive just for the root partition; I didn't make the sound fail totally; I didn't make it file a kernel crash report on every, single boot up. So long as the Linubs think it acceptable to produce unreliable,

Re: [Dorset] That's that.

2010-05-29 Thread Simon O'Riordan
To be sure, for a user who wants to do basic things, Fedora is an easy install, wifi works right away, and most of it just goes. For anybody doing anything more advanced the misery just piles on. I tend to judge these things by the amount and quality of support on the web; Ubuntu and MEPIS have

[Dorset] Distro debate

2010-05-29 Thread Kevin Giles
Hi folks, The '10.04? Not bloody likely' thread seems to have turned into a distro debate so I thought I'd throw in my bit. I appear to differ from most in that I do not like to have the latest greatest, my computer is a tool I want to be able to rely on so I prefer the proven. I also believe