[Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Peter Merchant
After reading this article in the telegraph today
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8126181/UK-will-run-out-of-web-addresses-by-2012.html

About Vint Cerf saying that the Uk will run out of IP (V4) addresses by
2012, I wondered  if my Router would support IPV6 on the Internet Side.
Will yours? 

I use a 3Com Wireless router.

Peter M.




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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread John Cooper

On 13/11/10 14:10, Peter Merchant wrote:

After reading this article in the telegraph today
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8126181/UK-will-run-out-of-web-addresses-by-2012.html

About Vint Cerf saying that the Uk will run out of IP (V4) addresses by
2012, I wondered  if my Router would support IPV6 on the Internet Side.
Will yours?



My Linksys WAG160 doesn't support it. You have to be careful about 
predicting when ipv4 addresses will run out as CIDR has been so 
successful, it could last another 10 years. I suspect if ipv6 was about 
to be rolled out, all routers will have FW updates to support it.


John.

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Re: [Dorset] dorset Digest, Vol 358, Issue 8

2010-11-13 Thread Brian R Masterman
I have recently purchased an Acer Aspire 5740 which came with Windoz7 
but had problems with the latest updates. Therefore, reloaded the disk 
with the latest Mint Linux 64bit and it is really good.


(I spent a short time working with a local laptop repair company and 
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laptops they didn't have them in for repair).


I did try the Ultimate Edition 2.7 Linux which is rather nice, but had 
problems with flash on 64bit.


I like the Window manager in Mint and the Linux is Ubuntu based.

I am really pleased with this system.
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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Dan Dart
Most do, but it's the ISP that you have to wait for.

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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Dan Jones
On 13 November 2010 14:29, John Cooper l...@discoverlinux.co.uk wrote:

 On 13/11/10 14:10, Peter Merchant wrote:

 After reading this article in the telegraph today

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8126181/UK-will-run-out-of-web-addresses-by-2012.html

 About Vint Cerf saying that the Uk will run out of IP (V4) addresses by
 2012, I wondered  if my Router would support IPV6 on the Internet Side.
 Will yours?


 My Linksys WAG160 doesn't support it. You have to be careful about
 predicting when ipv4 addresses will run out as CIDR has been so successful,
 it could last another 10 years. I suspect if ipv6 was about to be rolled
 out, all routers will have FW updates to support it.

 John.


Anyone know of any ISPs in the UK that support IPv6?

~Dan
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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread StarLion
 Anyone know of any ISPs in the UK that support IPv6?

 ~Dan

To my knowledge, none of them do. I don't think any ISP anywhere does,
for that matter.
Switching from v4 to v6 isn't going to be a simple matter - most
end-users won't understand, and will probably be left with limited
online capabilities unless something's done to keep older systems
backward-compatible.

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Re: [Dorset] dorset Digest, Vol 358, Issue 8

2010-11-13 Thread Ralph Corderoy

Hi Brian,

 (glad to know that Andy Paterson is in your group, we used to work
 together)

I used to work with Andy too.  Including you there's at least four of us
that used to work at that site on the list.

Cheers,
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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Dan Dart
 I don't think any ISP anywhere does, for that matter.

I talked to some guy with IPv6 - I can't remember, but I know some ISPs do.

I was testing others' IPv6 connectivity as I had a Miredo tunnel to
give me a global address.

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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 13/11/10 17:12, Dan Dart wrote:
 I don't think any ISP anywhere does, for that matter.
 I talked to some guy with IPv6 - I can't remember, but I know some ISPs do.

 I was testing others' IPv6 connectivity as I had a Miredo tunnel to
 give me a global address.

Apparently Andrews and Arnold do:

http://www.aaisp.net.uk/kb-broadband-ipv6.html

Sean


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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Andrew Morgan

On 13/11/10 14:10, Peter Merchant wrote:

After reading this article in the telegraph today
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8126181/UK-will-run-out-of-web-addresses-by-2012.html

About Vint Cerf saying that the Uk will run out of IP (V4) addresses by
2012, I wondered  if my Router would support IPV6 on the Internet Side.
Will yours?

I use a 3Com Wireless router.


I have a D-Link DIR-825 running OpenWRT which does IPv6. All devices 
which you can run OpenWRT on should have IPv6. But I'm not using it as a 
router and my ISP doesn't do IPv6 yet. This isn't an ADSL router though, 
I'd need another device to actually use it as an internet router. My 
ADSL router is a Netgear DG834Gv3 which, good as it is, doesn't support 
IPv6 and OpenWRT hasn't been ported to it.


I used a 2wire router a few years ago which was on some BT internet 
connection (they have so many names for their internet services it's 
hard to keep track!) and not only did the router support IPv6 but my 
laptop got an IPv6 address, which worked! I'm not sure if that was a 
testing phase at BT or what though.


The other day I installed Windows 7 in a kvm virtual machine, using 
kvm's default networking setup, and somehow Windows managed to get a 
real routable IPv6 address! I'm not sure how it did that as there's no 
IPv6 on my network at all. Or was it kvm? I'd love to know how that 
happened. I then re-booted the VM and since that Windows networking 
hasn't worked. At all.


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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Dan Dart
 The other day I installed Windows 7 in a kvm virtual machine, using kvm's
 default networking setup, and somehow Windows managed to get a real routable
 IPv6 address! I'm not sure how it did that as there's no IPv6 on my network
 at all

Windows 7 uses Teredo tunneling by default, which gives you a tunnel
to an IPv4 server with an IPv6 connection to get you the IPv6 tunneled
all the way.
However, only apps designed for it will work with it in Windows. So no
ipv6.google.com in the browser.

You can get free software for the protocol by installing the Miredo
package and it will work the same, except give you a network virtual
device called teredo which it tunnels all IPv6 traffic through, and
you CAN get ipv6.google.com!

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Re: [Dorset] Possible Bournemouth Meeting place

2010-11-13 Thread Ralph Corderoy

Hi,

Peter Merchant wrote:
 I asked at the Student Union today, and anyone can go and use the
 student union pub. There are two rooms - Dylans and a small offshoot
 called the Loft. If you want to book the room for a private meeting,
 it costs, but then you have exclusive use of the room.  If the bar in
 the Loft is not manned, then you pop into Dylans to get your drinks.
 Food available until mid-evening - I don't think these students like
 late nights. The Loft is quieter than Dylans, and sometimes they don't
 even pipe the  music/noise in. As long as the room isn't booked for
 something else, it could be a runner.  And Plenty of free parking in
 the evening.

Thanks for finding out about that.

Robert, do you know what the deal is with BUNIX getting a room at the
Uni, and what facilities are on offer?  Could DLUG do similar, even if
for the odd daytime weekend meet as public transport during the evening
is lacking?

Cheers,
Ralph.


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Re: [Dorset] dorset Digest, Vol 358, Issue 8

2010-11-13 Thread Andrew R Paterson
On Saturday 13 November 2010, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
 Hi Brian,
 
  (glad to know that Andy Paterson is in your group, we used to work
  together)
 
 I used to work with Andy too.  Including you there's at least four of us
 that used to work at that site on the list.
 
 Cheers,
 Ralph.
 
 
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Thank you for the Honourable mention - Si Smith is a more deserving one 
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The site in question was quite a place in those days.
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