Re: [Dorset] Very slow Desktop startup problem

2019-07-01 Thread Victor Churchill
Has anything changed recently regarding your Internet setup? If SOmetimes a
lo.o.o.ong delay at bootup is associated with a DNS timeout. If something
is trying to get a connection, and waiting for a minute before failing,
that should show up in the system logs too.

best regards,
웃
Victor Churchill,
Netley Abbey, Southampton
07970 844083


On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 09:31, John Carlyle-Clarke  wrote:

> You could try using systemd-analyze [1] to see how the boot time breaks
> down.
>
> [1]
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Improving_performance/Boot_process#Using_systemd-analyze
>
> On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 at 18:46, C Wills  wrote:
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > My wife's desktop PC running Mint 18.10 takes a very long time in
> > starting approx 4-5mins, (it used to start in less than 1min). It's also
> > slow in 'logging in' and if trying to copy pictures from a USB stick to
> > her /Pictures/ folder it takes ages at each operation.
> > It would appear that something is happening in start up that loops round
> > and hogs memory.
> >
> > How can I find out what's happening during the start up process please?
> >
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Re: [Dorset] Very slow Desktop startup problem

2019-07-01 Thread John Carlyle-Clarke
You could try using systemd-analyze [1] to see how the boot time breaks
down.

[1]
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Improving_performance/Boot_process#Using_systemd-analyze

On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 at 18:46, C Wills  wrote:

> Hi All
>
> My wife's desktop PC running Mint 18.10 takes a very long time in
> starting approx 4-5mins, (it used to start in less than 1min). It's also
> slow in 'logging in' and if trying to copy pictures from a USB stick to
> her /Pictures/ folder it takes ages at each operation.
> It would appear that something is happening in start up that loops round
> and hogs memory.
>
> How can I find out what's happening during the start up process please?
>
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Re: [Dorset] Very slow Desktop startup problem

2019-07-01 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Clive,

> It would appear that something is happening in start up that loops
> round and hogs memory.

What makes you say that.  Have you see an indication that memory usage
is high?  What's the output of `free -m' once it's up and running and
behaving slowly, e.g. copying pictures described above.

> How can I find out what's happening during the start up process
> please?

`journalctl -b' will show journal entries since the last boot.  You will
be in less(1) so `f' goes forward a page, `b' backwards, and `q' quits.
The lines at the start will all have `kernel:' in them as nothing else
is running.  Note the start time and page forwards until that changes to
`systemd:' showing the first process has been started.  How long is the
gap between the two?

You could continue to page forward looking to see if there's a
significant gap in time where nothing appears to happen because
everything is waiting on something, though it probably won't show
anything given your overall description.

> My wife's desktop PC running Mint 18.10 takes a very long time in
> starting approx 4-5mins, (it used to start in less than 1min).

What changed around that time?  Have a look at /var/log/apt/history.log
for packages that were upgraded just before it slowed down.  If
history.log is empty then history.1.gz, or 2..., may be the file to
inspect.

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2019-07-01 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi,

I thought this might be of interest to some list members.  The Flight
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Re: [Dorset] Very slow Desktop startup problem

2019-07-01 Thread Neil Stone
Further to Keith's suggestion, 'dmesg' may also hold some clues.

You would be surprised what shows in there.


On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 at 22:07, Keith Edmunds  wrote:

> My first move would be to check /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages for
> any disk errors.
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