[Dorset] Linux defragmentation
Knowledgable peeps. Is it necessary to defrag Linux based partitions? I was taught that defragging UNIX partitions wasn't ever necessary because UNIX 'conspired to defragment'. ie from the outset of creating data, semi-smart data handling routines logically distributed file fragments about the partition for optimal function and retrieval. Does anyone know if various Linux distro's have similar functionality? thanks. -- P.Lane Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-01-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Router IP addressing
On 22/10/2013 08:53, Peter Merchant wrote: On 21/10/13 22:06, David Wilkinson wrote: Hi Peter, That subnet mask is valid if the link is a point to point link where a network and broadcast addresses are not needed, such as an ADSL link. I don't think it is wildly used however with the IPv4 address space running out, I suspect it will be used more to save on wasting IP addresses. Regards David On 21/10/13 21:53, Peter Merchant wrote: I am quite confused by the IP addressing in the following chart copied from my Router. It shows an IP subnet mask that I don't understand. Is this an error in the display in this router, or is there something about IP addressing in the WAN that I don't understand? 0d:13h:22m:51s IP Address :92.22.90.206 Subnet Mask :255.255.255.255 Default Gateway :92.22.80.1 DNS Server :78.151.236.3 62.24.139.9 Can anyone cast any light on it? It wouldn't surprise me if it was an error on the display as there are a few errors in the English used on the device. Cheers, Peter Thanks David, I wondered if it was something like that. But does this translate my IP address as given from the router to a pseudo-device at the ISP end of the ADSL connection, or at the exchange in the DSLAM? Peter 255.255.255.255 is the subnet of the WAN. As the router is the route between the 2 distinct networks, and each network has its own subnet, the WAN link is a point to point link, not a broadcast network which bridges a subnet. It links a machine with a single IP address to another machine with a single IP address, each of which has an interface route to the other end of the link. -- P.Lane Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-11-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] OT: Networking through VMs
On 02/10/2013 16:59, Terry Coles wrote: On Wednesday 02 Oct 2013 14:54:00 d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: Guys, I have a very strange networking problem here at work and cannot see the wood for the trees. The OT bit is that the VMs are Windows XP guests running in Virtual PC (XPMode) on Windows 7 hosts. However, the problem is relating to being able to ping between guests and (sometimes) from hosts to guests. is there anyone who is network / VM savvy enough to suggest an avenue to explore? Here is the setup: * 3-off standard Dell desktop PCs running Windows 7 Professional. * 1-off standard Dell desktop PC running Kali Linux Live Disc. * The three PCs are networked together using a cheapo Netgear Switch FS108. (I have also tried a 3-Com hub.) * All physical computers are allocated static IP addresses in the 192.168.0.* range with a netmask of 255.255.255.0. * Each of the three desktop PCs are hosting an almost identical VM running XP professional. The only difference between the three XP instances are hostname and IP address (in the same range as the hosts). There are some applications that are configured differently on each guest, but I don't believe that they have any bearing on the problem because I can shut them down with the same result. * This network is completely private and Firewalls are off in all hosts and guests. Here is what happens when I ping each machine: * All the hosts ping each other OK. * One of the guests (no 3) can always ping one of the other guests, but generally not both. * Guest No 1 can never ping Guest No 2 and vice versa, but both can usually ping Guest No 3. * The hosts running Guests 1 2 also have trouble pinging the guest on the other machine. * The above results are variable. If I use nmap from the fourth machine running Linux I also get variable results: * Usually all XP guests show around 5 or 6 ports open, but this does vary. * All W7 hosts show the same dozen or so ports open. * Sometimes one of the guests shows up as having all of its ports filtered. Small update. Just before I left work today, we ran continuous pings from all of the hosts to all of the guests, vice versa and all of the hosts to all of the hosts (instead of the four pings and stop which Windows usually does). Behaviour was pretty much as described, but then some of the working pings began to time out occasionally and then more often. If we temporarily disconnected an ethernet cable at the switch, or temporarily powered the switch down, things improved for a while, although we never got Guests 1 and 2 to talk together. We could get a similar effect by disabling the network connection temporarily. Terry. Are there DNS issues? local host file of the Linux m/c, VM names missing? - Add name, fully qualified name, correct IP addr etc. File Print sharing needs to be opened on the VM firewall. Cheers, Phil. -- P.Lane Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-10-01 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Web Kiosk OS
On 26/09/2013 21:23, Tim wrote: It look like I will be building a web Kiosk PC for work in the next couple of months and not knowing anything about this sort of set-up\OS I thought I would see if I could tap into some of your knowledge on the lug What is required is a PC device that only has to access a single web site (which is live on the internet), there will be a need for keyboard input. Network access will be via a supplied 5mb supply with DHCP (the type of thing places like the NEC offer for those showing at large shows). At present the hardware side of thing looks like an old P4 pentium spec Dell PC, onboard graphics with a 23 display. I have had a quick google and there are plenty of offerings for web kiosk OS\software but which one is the best to use? Without playing with it I have no idea if it will meet my requirements. If I had a choice a Debian\Ubuntu base would be preferred as my limited Linux ability is from that family of OS's. Can anybody offer any guidance?? Tim Here's a reasonable Linux based guide.found it on the web. http://it.oscarmcmaster.org/howto-s/setting-up-a-kiosk-machine -- P.Lane Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-10-01 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] [dotdorset] Feedback needed on Beach Labs
On 12/07/2013 11:33, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi, This popped up on the dotDorset mailing list and given the number of home-workers on DLUG I thought it worth copying over as Adrian suggested. Cheers, Ralph. --- Forwarded Message Subject: [dotdorset] Feedback needed on Beach Labs From: Adrian Howard adri...@quietstars.com To: dotdor...@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:04:52 +0100 Message-ID: CAHQdGMBWO+LGxHpDmb+n_efU2=smg97ke60ajszkmp1wckd...@mail.gmail.com Hey folks, Various peeps are in the process of trying to think about / set up a local co-working/incubator/accelerator space in Bournemouth. They've got a straw man proposal / presentation done and are rabidly seeking feedback. The document: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0zbGiTeF3GPejJnX0NRbDRIdUU/edit?usp=sharing More info: Twitter: https://twitter.com/beachlabs/ Web site (not done yet): http://beach.io/ LinkedIn group where discussion is happening: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Silicon-Beach-Labs-5090920?home=gid=5090920trk=anet_ug_hm If folk want to comment or drop me a line directly I can pass feedback along, or join the group and get involved yourself. If you can think of anybody else who would be interested in this please pass it on (Ralph - do you think any of the LUG folk would find it interesting?) Cheers, Adrian - -- adri...@quietstars.com / +44 (0)7752 419080 / @adrianh / quietstars.com Subscribe to the latest Agile Lean UX news here http://is.gd/KREt5S - -- To post to this group, send email to dotdor...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to dotdorset+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com See http://dotdorset.org/ http://groups.google.com/group/dotdorset for more --- End of Forwarded Message I'm very interested in this. If required, I can also supply a Sparc 10 runing olaris10 or 11 or a Linux, plus a small StorEdge box with approx 20GB of storage. (It will be more when I buy larger capacity disks but will be fine to begin with. I can also supply a desktop PC and monitor running a Linux. Being Poole based, I can be on-site 1 day min per week. I'm also working on a project which is at the stage where I require some ideas and seed funding to progress. -- P.Lane Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-08-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Samba and Windows Access to Drives.
On 19/06/2013 14:15, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Charles, Turns out I was on 11.04 so I have upgraded to 11.10 and am now in process of upgrading again to 12.04LTS - will probably stop there as that seems to be the latest stable LTS. Yes, it is. I will also be re-formatting network and USB drives to EXT4 and installing Samba on Windows machines so that they can also use the drives - does this make sense? No, not really. :-) I've not used Samba, not having a need, but others on the list have so hopefully they'll pipe up. If you're intending to plug those USB drives into Windows machines then they need to be formatted with a filesystem Windows understands; and ext4 isn't by default. If all the drives are connected to Linux machines and Windows only sees them over the network, then ext4 is fine. To use the network to access the drives, I'd expect Samba to be on the Linux machines so they can serve up the drives' content and Windows would use its native software to access them over the network. Samba could also be used for Linux-to-Linux access over the network AIUI; bits of Samba running on both machines. What is it you'd like to achieve? Access to what storage and where? Cheers, Ralph. Samba is an excellent tool, controllable from the Linux side and simple to set up and manage. I recommend it. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-07-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Samba and Windows Access to Drives.
-to-Linux access over the network AIUI; bits of Samba running on both machines. What is it you'd like to achieve? Access to what storage and where? Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-07-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-07-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue Virtualbox is stable in Ms, Linux and UNIX and again, simple to use and a pleasant user experience with a short learning curve. Better throughput is acheived with ESXi but it is more of a complicated process. For desktops, V'Box is great. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-07-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Partition folder capacity
Hi Justin. Yes, definitely Solaris 2.x I was working mainly with 2.4-2.6 (previously with SunOS also), but it is in the 2.x Network admin course material, I just checked it. I took that course in 2000. I'm sure I've only used that feature once tho as I said , after upping the capacity of an EMC array for NEC (watching the snow fall on the car park overnight while restoring from tape backup). And you're right, it is no longer relevant on modern Solaris systems, just thought something similar might be available in Linux instead of a rebuild. Performance may have been an issues some years ago, but not now. Similarly reducing minfree is a good idea these days as filesystems are so large and systems are so quick. you wouldn't 'tunefs -m5 /' on an 8gb root drive, but you would on an 800gb filesystem. Cheers, Phil Lane. On 09/05/2013 18:03, Justin Stringfellow wrote: Tuning the maxusers as a means of increasing the available inodes was taught by Sun in their 2.x Network Admin course and was included in the NFS Server Performance and Tuning guide. So as a recommended method, I regard it as having been safe, useful and effective. Tuning maxusers is a very old fashioned approach to system tuning; are you sure you weren't told to do this in relation to SunOS4.x, which was the earlier Sun UNIX OS, and a BSD derivative? I believe you absolutely do tune maxusers there, but not Solaris 2.x. Typically you would tune more specifically - e.g. ncsize for the DNLC, nrnodes for NFS inode count, etc. Turning the wick up on maxusers will change sizing for the whole system and could easily result in negative performance gains. cheers --justin -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-06-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Partition folder capacity
On 07/05/2013 19:03, Justin Stringfellow wrote: Tuning maxusers on Solaris is a bad idea, not sure about Linux. It's an ancient tunable whose meaning has long since ceased to control the max number of interactive users and it serves more as a master control knob for sizing the whole system. The impact of fiddling with it is potentially large. Much better to find the more specific tunable for the thing you want to change. cheers, --justin p.lane p.l...@lectrics.co.uk wrote: On 07/05/2013 18:46, p.lane wrote: On 07/05/2013 15:42, C A Wills wrote: Hi Bob Thanks for the info but using df -i only lists info of the laptop I'm using although the remote partition is 'mounted' on the desktop and I can 'see' the files on it in Nautilus. The only partitions listed are sda2 (root) sda6 (home). *C A Wills* /Powered by Linux Open Source Software/ On 07/05/13 12:39, Bob Dunlop wrote: $ df -i From my Solaris admin I remember having to increase the number of inodes on an expanded filesystem on an EMC array. /etc/bin/nfstsat the size of the inode cache can be increased as it is a quota system tied to the 'maxuser' parameter. increase the 'maxusers' parameter in the /etc/system file. By default, it is set to the amount (number) of RAM present. set maxusers = 1024 increasing this parameter increases the number of available inodes. A reboot is required. The system will recompute the size of the inode cache. Not sure how this translates to Linux, but is worth a search. bon chance. btw...jfs2 increases inode allocation on the fly..allegedly. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-05-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue Tuning the maxusers as a means of increasing the available inodes was taught by Sun in their 2.x Network Admin course and was included in the NFS Server Performance and Tuning guide. So as a recommended method, I regard it as having been safe, useful and effective. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-06-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Partition folder capacity
On 07/05/2013 15:42, C A Wills wrote: Hi Bob Thanks for the info but using df -i only lists info of the laptop I'm using although the remote partition is 'mounted' on the desktop and I can 'see' the files on it in Nautilus. The only partitions listed are sda2 (root) sda6 (home). *C A Wills* /Powered by Linux Open Source Software/ On 07/05/13 12:39, Bob Dunlop wrote: $ df -i From my Solaris admin I remember having to increase the number of inodes on an expanded filesystem on an EMC array. /etc/bin/nfstsat the size of the inode cache can be increased as it is a quota system tied to the 'maxuser' parameter. increase the 'maxusers' parameter in the /etc/system file. By default, it is set to the amount (number) of RAM present. set maxusers = 1024 increasing this parameter increases the number of available inodes. A reboot is required. The system will recompute the size of the inode cache. Not sure how this translates to Linux, but is worth a search. bon chance. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-05-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] The Latest Linux Powered Device
On 14/01/2013 21:30, Sean Gibbins wrote: On 14/01/13 16:33, p.lane wrote: Add some servos to move the rifle and you have the ultimate in safe sniping. Now there's an oxymoron if ever I heard one! On a more serious note, is no one else troubled that arguably one of the most complex artefacts created by man (through cooperation no less) is being adapted for killing? *sigh* Sean The H-bomb is fairly complex. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] dorset Digest, Vol 469, Issue 1
On 15/01/2013 14:48, Graeme Gemmill wrote: On 15/01/13 12:00, dorset-requ...@mailman.lug.org.uk wrote: Re: The Latest Linux Powered Device Sorry Sean, but the first electronic computer, ENIAC, 1946, was created to generate ballistic tables for the US artillery Graeme And the internet or Darpanet, was created my the US military to communicate with all of its main sites around the country...but then you all knew that...history lesson over. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] dorset Digest, Vol 469, Issue 1
On 15/01/2013 17:44, Sean Gibbins wrote: On 15/01/13 14:48, Graeme Gemmill wrote: On 15/01/13 12:00, dorset-requ...@mailman.lug.org.uk wrote: Re: The Latest Linux Powered Device Sorry Sean, but the first electronic computer, ENIAC, 1946, was created to generate ballistic tables for the US artillery Doubtless true Graeme, but did it run Linux? They can have Windows and other proprietary operating systems to wage war and kill more efficiently, but can they not leave Linux alone? Sean of course not...linux is being deployed more increasingly by the worlds military as it is so much more secure than you know what! -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Nexus 7 virus software, any problems?
On 01/01/2013 15:00, Terry Coles wrote: On Tuesday 01 Jan 2013 14:44:43 Sean Gibbins wrote: However, this Christmas my son was able to purchase a decent new branded graphics card from PC World for the same price that it was available ebuyer and Amazon - that was a first! My Samsung Chromebook was the same price at PC World as everywhere else, so I bought it there for convenience. For once the salesperson was not totally clueless (he claimed to have a Chromebook himself), but that was pretty irrelevant because I knew what I wanted. I do buy from them when it makes sense, but I wouldn't rely on their advice. I remember taking my mother there to get her a Dell Mini 10 Netbook when they were available with Ubuntu. However, PC World didn't do the Ubuntu version and the sales guy was busy telling my mother that Linux was too difficult when she mentioned that she'd been using a Linux Netbook for two years and found it much simpler than Windows! I'm still not sure if he believed her. I have always used Comodo IS (firewalls and AV) for my Win pc's and have found it excellent. It is much less mem intensive than Norton, McAfee or Kaspersky and friendlier to use and has found threats that the paid for products didn't. There is a Linux version available, but not yet Android. As an aside, I also use Kaspersky TDS killer ( a standalone) and ComboFix. Be careful with the latter. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-01-08 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Best starter programming language
On 15/09/2012 13:22, cawi...@talktalk.net wrote: Hi All My 12 year old grandson has asked 'Which is the best Programming Language to learn?' - over to you all!! Please remember he is 12 years old and has just started senior school here in Switzerland. I've suggested he ought to lean a cross platform language but I don't know which one. (C, C++, Python, Ruby, Jarva?) He has a windows 98 laptop and a MAC at home and I assume a Windows macine at school. At the moment he is learning to touch type (at school) and uses Libre Office and Firefox at home. He is also interested to programme his Lego Mindstorm but does not have anyone to support him and finds it frustrating when stuck. Any suggestions please? -- *Clive Wills* /Powered by Linux Open Source Software/// -- Next meeting: 2012-10-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue Perl, Perl and more Perl...then Python. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: 2012-10-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Best starter programming language
On 15/09/2012 22:00, Peter Washington wrote: On 15 September 2012 20:07, Peter Merchantmadsmad...@netscape.net wrote: On 15/09/12 19:33, Adrian Warman wrote: I think Leo's recommendation is Python. In any event, I would also recommend it. It's platform-agnostic, it's used by big companies (Google, anyone?), it can be run in a simple, interpreter-like way (single line Basic, anyone?), it supports object-oriented programming, there's lots of documentation and examples freely available,... Adrian Excellent reasons Adrian. I always have to ask, what do you want to do with it? If you are wanting to access databases you would use a different language than if you wanted to do machine control. Because the raspberry pi uses Python, I am working with it to control the basic I/O functions, but not yet at doing anything with USB devices. My python references are ' Byte of Python', and 'Dive into Python'. I like interpretive languages like Basic, Forth and Python for learning. I believe that there is an editor from which you can run your python and then drop back to the editor, but I don't know what it is. It might be Notepad++ in a W$ environment. Notepad++ and Kate both display text in different colours depending on their function. Peter M. Peter M. Personally I would have to agre that Python is a good choice for starting learning about software because it encourages good practices and it can actually take you a very long way. I use Scite to edit my Python because it is itself cross platform, it provides syntax colouring and you can compile / interpret your code from the Editor and if there is an error it will highlight the line with the error. I have Notepad++ on the work laptop that I'm writing on now and I've just looked for Compilation / Interpretation tools and I couldn't find any, (but I only looked quite quickly). Good luck to your grandson Clive. And Perl is also platform agnostic. Phil. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: 2012-10-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Where the log entry
On 08/09/2012 23:25, Tim wrote: I wrote a simple one line script and put it into /etc/init.d with the intention of it running on boot up. Unfortunately it does not seem to run upon bootup. Which log file should I look in to see if any reason for it not running is logged (I have looked but can't find anything relevant)?? Tim -- Next meeting: 2012-10-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue Did you make it executable? chmod +x Phil -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: 2012-10-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] ext2-3-4 on Win
On 07/07/2012 21:17, StarLion wrote: Greetings all, For various reasons, I'm trying to access an EXT3 partition from Windows. I know of several ways, the most notable of which being the ext2 IFS (Linkhttp://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/), but the IFS and most other solutions don't seem to work too well on Windows 7. Running the remaining options under 64-bit Win only seems to make things worse. I had thought that by working with Cygwin to gain a Unix-alike environment would be able to solve this, but alas it relies on Windows for nearly all of its filesystem needs - and since Windows cannot by default understand EXT, neither can Cygwin. So I'm in search of a means of accessing the partition that will work for a change. Does anyone know of such a way, or should I start looking at other means of access instead? Thanks either way. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-08-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue I found this which looks like a solution if you're up to tweaking it according to your setup - so long you have additional spaces in your NTFS drive to accomodate ext3 drives data; assuming you have this, just try the sequence of commands only ]# mkdir /mnt/ext ; mkdir /mnt/ntfs ]# mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/ext ]# mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /mnt/ntfs ]# mkdir /mnt/ntfs/ext3_data ]# cp -xR /mnt/ext/* /mnt/ntfs/ext3_data/ ]# sync ]# umount /mnt/ntfs ; umount /mnt/ext Your data will be properly copied into the ext3_data directory under the ntfs drive; ofcourse the conversion of data format from ext3 to ntfs would be handled by the corresponding filesystems kernel modules. You may also chose to copy of the entire ext3 disk image onto your ntfs drive too, use the following: ]# mkdir /mnt/ntfs ]# mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /mnt/ntfs ]# mkdir /mnt/ntfs/ext_data ]# dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/mnt/ntfs/ext_data/ext3.img bs=512 count=size_of_data / 512 Here with the /count/ flag takes an argument as a number you get as a divide the total ext3 drive's capacity to 512. At the end, what you get is not the pure data rather its a disk copy as a backup onto your ntfs drive, this disk image is a file which would be saved as an ntfs file over the ntfs drive. In this case, to get your data, you need to do the following: ]# mount -o loop -t ext3 /mnt/ntfs/ext_data/ext3.img /mnt/ext Here you can access your data inside the /mnt/ext directory. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-08-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Network error on boot
On 24/06/2012 17:14, Keith Edmunds wrote: On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:38:19 +0100, t...@xendistar.co.uk said: r8169 :03:00.0 eth0: unable to loadfirmware patch rtl-nic/rt18168e-3.fw (-2) Does that file exist? It should be in /lib/firmware. I have also tried disabling the network interface on the PC which did not help. If I could at least get the PC to boot up to the desktop it would help. This won't get you a GUI, but it'll get you a root login (but with nothing _at all_ running). At the grub prompt, edit the command line and append 'init=/bin/bash' to the line specifying the kernel, then boot. You'll be dropped straight into a root shell. Alternatively, boot a rescue CD (I favour http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage, but any will do). That will allow you to examine /lib/firmware, and will also allow you to set up networking if you need to copy a file onto your system. Do any of you guys use this Linux utility to boot from if you get problems - systemrescuecd-x86-2.8.0.iso If you can't find it on the web, It's a 400MB file so can't attach it here. Will ftp to anyone who would like to try it.. I won't do it here as it will go to everone. Phil -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-07-03 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Network error on boot
On 24/06/2012 18:56, Tim wrote: On 24/06/12 18:23, Tim wrote: On 24/06/12 17:14, Keith Edmunds wrote: On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:38:19 +0100, t...@xendistar.co.uk said: r8169 :03:00.0 eth0: unable to loadfirmware patch rtl-nic/rt18168e-3.fw (-2) Does that file exist? It should be in /lib/firmware. No I have also tried disabling the network interface on the PC which did not help. If I could at least get the PC to boot up to the desktop it would help. This won't get you a GUI, but it'll get you a root login (but with nothing _at all_ running). At the grub prompt, edit the command line and append 'init=/bin/bash' to the line specifying the kernel, then boot. You'll be dropped straight into a root shell. Alternatively, boot a rescue CD (I favour http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage, but any will do). That will allow you to examine /lib/firmware, and will also allow you to set up networking if you need to copy a file onto your system. I favour the gui route I am not a very good at cli From the boot disk I can access the PC hard disk and make changes but I don't know what files to modify so that I can switch of the network and then let the PC boot to a desktop. I am also going off in search of this rtl-nic/rt18168e-3.fw file and then maybe put it in the lib/firmware folder and see what happens. Tim Ok updating my own post, I realised that the boot disk I was using was happy accessing the internet so I checked the lib/firmware folder and there was an rtl-nic folder complete with the rt18168e-3.fw file in the folder, so I copied the whole folder over and tried booting the PC, still won't boot past network configuring Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-06-12 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue Have you tried commenting out the boot config in - /etc/network/interfaces to bypass the network connect hang? Phil. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-07-03 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Made me laugh
On 21/06/2012 17:50, Terry Coles wrote: On Tuesday 19 Jun 2012 10:52:12 Peter Merchant wrote: I have just bought from Novatech a 7 port powered USB Hub to work with my Raspberry Pi. It's smaller than a fag packet. What is interesting is that the features lists compatible with Windows ME/2000/xp etc, Lunix 2.4. ??? Under System Requirements, aside for Pentium etc, it lists 'Macitosh'. Nowhere does it say where it was manufactured. Scoshland? I've read some bad things about these - overheating, 'burning out', power socket badly soldered to board. Cheap is cheap. try not to go there. + you just know where they are made...In the 60's early 70's it was known as 'Jap crap'. Now it's 'cheap as china.' -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-06-12 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Hi all, just joined......
On 16/06/2012 17:33, Tim wrote: On 15/06/12 12:45, p.lane wrote: Hi all @ DLug. Found the group today, so I've joined up linked to LinkedIN. I've added to the members page so do have a read. Please fell free to contact me with anything social or professional. Thanks. Welcome to Dlug, I must ask, are you sure you want your home address and mobile numbers appearing on public accessible (like dlug) services? Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-06-12 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue Hi Tim. .and good point. I'll change the email caddress away from my Corp addy. Thank you. Phil -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd 19 Brampton Rd Poole Dorset Home - 01202 677401 mob - 0794 142 7691 -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-06-12 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Hi all, just joined......
On 17/06/2012 09:12, Terry Coles wrote: On Friday 15 Jun 2012 12:45:36 p.lane wrote: Found the group today, so I've joined up linked to LinkedIN. I've added to the members page so do have a read. Please fell free to contact me with anything social or professional. Talk about a blast from the past! How are you Phil? From your entry on the members page, you seem to be still rolling along :-) You should come to a Meeting if you can. You just missed one; the normal 'first Tuesday of the month' meeting was postponed until last week (to avoid clashing with the Jubilee B/H). The next one is not until Tuesday 3rd July. I'm a regular, (when the company hasn't sent me off to some distant place), and Paul Tyson normally comes along. We don't tend to get too heavy, but we always have a good natter and the beer's not bad. As of about 4 months ago, the pub got all up to date and installed Wi-Fi (the Cloud) so we're generally pretty set up. Hi Terry. Good to be in touch again. You guys have been through some changes - Thales - EADS - Cassidian. Have been through a few myself; quite a journey. I thought the site had closed down at 1 point after a drive past. I'm glad it's still thriving. I hope to attend a meet soon but am away a lot myself. It'll be great to catch up, you'll be talking all night to update me. Do say hi to Paul and anybody else that knows me. I've no idea who is still there. Cheers, -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd Poole Dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-06-12 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
[Dorset] Hi all, just joined......
Hi all @ DLug. Found the group today, so I've joined up linked to LinkedIN. I've added to the members page so do have a read. Please fell free to contact me with anything social or professional. Thanks. -- P.Lane CEO Lectrics Ltd 19 Brampton Rd Poole Dorset Home - 01202 677401 mob - 0794 142 7691 -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-06-12 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue