Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-06-30 Thread Terry Coles
On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 09:45:00 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> Just spotted this: update on which existing drugs have come out on top
> so far, and an end date for the project (end of July).

Although they indicate that they have reached their conclusions, but 
volunteers may continue to participate until then.

I assume the tasks being issued at the moment are more about confirming what 
won't work and reinforcing what will.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-06-30 Thread Tim Waugh
Just spotted this: update on which existing drugs have come out on top
so far, and an end date for the project (end of July).

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto=en=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.elconfidencialdigital.com%2Farticulo%2Fvivir%2Festudio-csic-4000-voluntarios-concluye-medicamentos-eficaces-coronavirus%2F20200626132551147372.html

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-17 Thread Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty
On 15/05/2020 10:56, Tim Waugh wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 10:29, Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty
>  wrote:
>> I'm going to have one last go at getting GPU computing to work for
>> Folding soon, but if I can't make it work, does anyone think it's worth
>> doing CPU folding, or are the contributions so small as to be pointless?
> The CPU folding is important. Some of the simulations are only made
> available for CPU work.
>
>> Tim, I'd be interested to see how your KVM computing is going - you said
>> it was very slow over the call, but hoping it will speed up. I probably
>> won't do it, but I'm interested to see how well it works.
> Well, it's hard to say because of the estimated time remaining being
> so broken. But some tasks have completed so we can compare.
>
> Here is the 'bare metal' version, actually running inside a podman container:
> https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/show_host_detail.php?hostid=2288
>
> The measured floating point and integer speeds are 6.53b and 136.5b
> ops/s, and the tasks generally take about 30,000s for v0.01 and 3,500s
> for v0.02.
>
> Here's a VM I was using:
> https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3505
>
> and the measured floating point and integer speeds don't seem to have
> been filled in yet; they are still the default you get before you've
> even submitted a completed task.
>
> The tasks generally take about the same amount of time! But the credit
> received for them is much lower -- I have no idea why that is.
>
> I reconnected that VM using the correct project URL (oops) so now it
> shows up here:
> https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4223
>
> I'll leave it going for a bit to compare some more.
>
> Tim.
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>
Well that's certainly interesting. Also good to know that CPU folding is
worth doing either way.

I was just about to reset my Ibercivis password, but I have not been
able to - it says it failed to send the email. Has anyone else had this
issue? I also can't start computing for them on my desktop until I
manage to recover my password.

Hamish



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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-15 Thread Tim Waugh
On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 10:29, Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty
 wrote:
> I'm going to have one last go at getting GPU computing to work for
> Folding soon, but if I can't make it work, does anyone think it's worth
> doing CPU folding, or are the contributions so small as to be pointless?

The CPU folding is important. Some of the simulations are only made
available for CPU work.

> Tim, I'd be interested to see how your KVM computing is going - you said
> it was very slow over the call, but hoping it will speed up. I probably
> won't do it, but I'm interested to see how well it works.

Well, it's hard to say because of the estimated time remaining being
so broken. But some tasks have completed so we can compare.

Here is the 'bare metal' version, actually running inside a podman container:
https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/show_host_detail.php?hostid=2288

The measured floating point and integer speeds are 6.53b and 136.5b
ops/s, and the tasks generally take about 30,000s for v0.01 and 3,500s
for v0.02.

Here's a VM I was using:
https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3505

and the measured floating point and integer speeds don't seem to have
been filled in yet; they are still the default you get before you've
even submitted a completed task.

The tasks generally take about the same amount of time! But the credit
received for them is much lower -- I have no idea why that is.

I reconnected that VM using the correct project URL (oops) so now it
shows up here:
https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4223

I'll leave it going for a bit to compare some more.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-15 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday, 15 May 2020 10:28:36 BST Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty wrote:
> Aw that's a shame. I was just going to re-add this to my Ryzen system to
> contribute some more work.

Hamish,

Checkpointing is working; it's just ETA computation that isn't.  All my Tasks 
from yesterday survived shutdown and completed withing an hour of startup this 
morning.

The ETA computation issue is an annoyance, nothing more.

There has been some discussion on the Ibercivis Message Board about 
Checkpointing.  There have been some complaints that users can't see 
checkpointing happen:

https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/forum_thread.php?id=49=300

The response has been that they are using a wrapper to allow their Tasks to 
run under BOINC and this wrapper doesn't support checkpointing so they've 
instigated at workround.

Perhaps the wrapper inhibits the ETA computation too.


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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-15 Thread Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty
On 15/05/2020 10:22, Terry Coles wrote:
> On Friday, 15 May 2020 08:47:08 BST Terry Coles wrote:
>> The ETA computation seems to be fixed as well.  The client is now reporting
>> fractions of a percentage complete and shows no sign of freezing at any
>> point. One of yesterday's Tasks is now 'Ready to Report' and of the rest,
>> six out of seven have 35 minutes to go.
> It only 'seemed' to be fixed.  Those 35 min Tasks ran for another hour or so 
> and then suddenly reported.
>
> The eight Tasks currently running are all at exactly 20.000% or 60.000% 
> exactly and their ETA has increased to 13 hours and one hour respectively ;-(
>
Aw that's a shame. I was just going to re-add this to my Ryzen system to
contribute some more work.

At the moment I only have it on my old laptop with Rosetta, because
that's quiet and can stay on 24/7, but it's also very slow. I might ask
if they're going to add support for ARM, because if so I could computer
for them on the Pi 3 too. Rosetta now supports ARM, but my Pi 3 doesn't
really have enough RAM for most tasks sadly.

I'm going to have one last go at getting GPU computing to work for
Folding soon, but if I can't make it work, does anyone think it's worth
doing CPU folding, or are the contributions so small as to be pointless?

Tim, I'd be interested to see how your KVM computing is going - you said
it was very slow over the call, but hoping it will speed up. I probably
won't do it, but I'm interested to see how well it works.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-15 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday, 15 May 2020 08:47:08 BST Terry Coles wrote:
> The ETA computation seems to be fixed as well.  The client is now reporting
> fractions of a percentage complete and shows no sign of freezing at any
> point. One of yesterday's Tasks is now 'Ready to Report' and of the rest,
> six out of seven have 35 minutes to go.

It only 'seemed' to be fixed.  Those 35 min Tasks ran for another hour or so 
and then suddenly reported.

The eight Tasks currently running are all at exactly 20.000% or 60.000% 
exactly and their ETA has increased to 13 hours and one hour respectively ;-(

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-15 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday, 14 May 2020 10:15:31 BST Terry Coles wrote:
> 'We are doing checkpointing after each of these lines (in version 0.02 and
> in workunits like 13052020 or higher)'

I can report that this is working.  I shut down last night instead of 
Suspending and the Ibercivis Tasks all resumed this morning.

> BTW all my earlier Tasks have shot up to exactly 60% of Progress with around
> 8 hours to complete.

The ETA computation seems to be fixed as well.  The client is now reporting 
fractions of a percentage complete and shows no sign of freezing at any point.  
One of yesterday's Tasks is now 'Ready to Report' and of the rest, six out of 
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday, 14 May 2020 09:59:24 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> Thanks for the tip! I'll let these VM tasks drain until I see v0.02 tasks
> come in. Still curious about how the VM tasks actually perform in KVM.

I've been puzzling over that posting since I first read it.  At the start of it 
they say:

'We have uploaded a new Covid -Phym version (v0.2). In this new version:
- We have eliminated unnecessary files
- We have uploaded a new version of gen_wrapper
- We are able to to checkpointing'

Then at the end of the posting they say:

'We are doing checkpointing after each of these lines (in version 0.02 and in 
workunits like 13052020 or higher)'

So do they mean v0.2 or v0.02?  Also five of my six new Tasks have workunits in 
the range _5202 and up (no mention of the 130 prefix) and one has the workunit 
_2270.  All of them have 0.02 in the Application column.

BTW all my earlier Tasks have shot up to exactly 60% of Progress with around  
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-14 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 07:22, Terry Coles  wrote:

> However, there is a new posting on the Ibercivis Message Board that says
> they
> now have a new version of the app on the server which is supposed to fix
> the
> checkpointing problem (but not the computation issue).
>

Ah, yes:
https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/forum_thread.php?id=49#289

Thanks for the tip! I'll let these VM tasks drain until I see v0.02 tasks
come in. Still curious about how the VM tasks actually perform in KVM.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Wednesday, 13 May 2020 11:38:57 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> I noticed that ibercivis released a whole load of new tasks. Still no
> checkpointing, and some of them take much longer now, 8-9 hours for me.

When the six that I've got arrived they were predicted to complete in 8-9 
hours.  They've all been running now for around 10 hours and have a predicted 
completion of 15 hours.

I think the bug in the progress computation for these Tasks hasn't been fixed 
either.  Earlier Tasks froze with no apparent progress at 50% and then 
suddenly completed.  These are all frozen at exactly 40%.

However, there is a new posting on the Ibercivis Message Board that says they 
now have a new version of the app on the server which is supposed to fix the 
checkpointing problem (but not the computation issue).

I just did an update and got seven new Tasks with an ETA of 48 minutes!  My 
six originals are still chuntering away though ;-(

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-13 Thread Terry Coles
On Wednesday, 13 May 2020 11:38:57 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> I gave up on using hibernate ('systemctl hibernate') only because the FAH
> GPU task doesn't survive it.

I gave up on hibernate, because (K)Ubuntu doesn't support it and the 
instructions to make it work have all sorts of issues.

> I noticed that ibercivis released a whole load of new tasks. Still no
> checkpointing, and some of them take much longer now, 8-9 hours for me.

Yes.  I got 6 yesterday.

> That's a lot to lose to lack of checkpointing, so I'm going back to the VM
> approach and will see how it really performs (as opposed to its
> ahead-of-time estimate).

Suspend to RAM works OK for me.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-13 Thread Tim Waugh
I gave up on using hibernate ('systemctl hibernate') only because the FAH
GPU task doesn't survive it.

I noticed that ibercivis released a whole load of new tasks. Still no
checkpointing, and some of them take much longer now, 8-9 hours for me.

That's a lot to lose to lack of checkpointing, so I'm going back to the VM
approach and will see how it really performs (as opposed to its
ahead-of-time estimate).

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread chris cave via dorset

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Terry Coles
On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 19:56:53 BST Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty wrote:
> I don't seem to have hibernate on either laptop or desktop. I manually
> enabled it before, but it never worked reliably.
> 
> This is maybe one thing that Windows does better.

AFAIR it works OK on my laptop.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty
I don't seem to have hibernate on either laptop or desktop. I manually
enabled it before, but it never worked reliably.

This is maybe one thing that Windows does better.

Hamish

On 05/05/2020 18:23, Terry Coles wrote:
> On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:12:55 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
>> Hibernate is not only for laptops.
>>
>> If you hibernate (i.e. suspend-to-disk), then you can remove the power with
>> impunity. When you power it back on it will resume from disk.
> I couldn't agree more.  Unfortunately the Kubuntu developers don't think it's 
> needed for devices without batteries (by default at least).  They seem to 
> think that Hibernate is all about Energy Saving and nothing to do with 
> preserving the state of the machine on shut down.
>
> In the System Settings, under 'Power Management' only one tab is provide with 
> an option to 'Sleep' when the button is pressed.  Similarly in the 'K' Menu, 
> under 'Leave', only 'Sleep' is offered and not 'Hibernate'.
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Terry Coles
On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:12:55 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> Hibernate is not only for laptops.
> 
> If you hibernate (i.e. suspend-to-disk), then you can remove the power with
> impunity. When you power it back on it will resume from disk.

I couldn't agree more.  Unfortunately the Kubuntu developers don't think it's 
needed for devices without batteries (by default at least).  They seem to 
think that Hibernate is all about Energy Saving and nothing to do with 
preserving the state of the machine on shut down.

In the System Settings, under 'Power Management' only one tab is provide with 
an option to 'Sleep' when the button is pressed.  Similarly in the 'K' Menu, 
under 'Leave', only 'Sleep' is offered and not 'Hibernate'.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 17:11, Terry Coles  wrote:

> On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:56:40 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 16:53, Terry Coles 
> wrote:
> > > It still needs the mains to be on.
> >
> > For *hibernate*, i.e. suspend-to-disk?
>
> No.  For Suspend.  Hibernate is only available for laptops it seems.
>

Hibernate is not only for laptops.

If you hibernate (i.e. suspend-to-disk), then you can remove the power with
impunity. When you power it back on it will resume from disk.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Terry Coles
On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:56:40 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 16:53, Terry Coles  wrote:
> > It still needs the mains to be on.
> 
> For *hibernate*, i.e. suspend-to-disk?

No.  For Suspend.  Hibernate is only available for laptops it seems.

It is definitely Suspend that is happening, because the machine shuts down 
instantly, with no disc thrashing, and likewise re-awakens instantly when I 
press the power button.

If I (foolishly) turned off the mains, then the machine would crash out in much 
the same way as if it had been running normally I imagine.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 14:43, Terry Coles  wrote:

> On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:28:35 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> > Or alternatively, can suspend (or hibernate) be pressed into service?
> > Instead of shutting down at night, suspend/hibernate the machine
> overnight
> > so it can pick up where it left off when it is resumed in the morning.
>
> It looks as if Kubuntu only allows Suspend to RAM for Desktop PCs.
> Hibernate
> is only available if the computer is fitted with a battery.
>

I'd be surprised if it's that way round. Suspend to RAM needs a battery;
hiberate does not (the machine actually powers off completely).

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Terry Coles
On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:28:35 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> Or alternatively, can suspend (or hibernate) be pressed into service?
> Instead of shutting down at night, suspend/hibernate the machine overnight
> so it can pick up where it left off when it is resumed in the morning.

It looks as if Kubuntu only allows Suspend to RAM for Desktop PCs.  Hibernate 
is only available if the computer is fitted with a battery.

I no longer have any Ibercivis Tasks queued.  I'll re-enable the Project and 
see what happens if I simply Suspend, although I might have to wait until the 
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 11:05, Terry Coles  wrote:

> On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:02:01 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> > Ibercivis may not have checkpointing, but what if I run it in a VM (using
> > kvm), and suspend *that* when I switch the machine off?
>
> The Client might get a bit confused with the timestamps maybe.  The only
> way
> to find out is to try it I guess.
>

Or alternatively, can suspend (or hibernate) be pressed into service?
Instead of shutting down at night, suspend/hibernate the machine overnight
so it can pick up where it left off when it is resumed in the morning.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Terry Coles
On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:02:01 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> Ibercivis may not have checkpointing, but what if I run it in a VM (using
> kvm), and suspend *that* when I switch the machine off?

The Client might get a bit confused with the timestamps maybe.  The only way 
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Tim Waugh
Ibercivis may not have checkpointing, but what if I run it in a VM (using
kvm), and suspend *that* when I switch the machine off?

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On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 10:47, Terry Coles  wrote:

> On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 10:43:53 BST Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty wrote:
> > I'll have to abort on one machine too, it doesn't complete tasks quickly
> > enough for that to work.
>
> I've posted a comment on the Ibercivis forum, requesting that the
> developers
> let us know (by publishing a Notice perhaps), when this problem is
> resolved.
>
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Terry Coles
On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 10:43:53 BST Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty wrote:
> I'll have to abort on one machine too, it doesn't complete tasks quickly
> enough for that to work.

I've posted a comment on the Ibercivis forum, requesting that the developers 
let us know (by publishing a Notice perhaps), when this problem is resolved.


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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty
On 05/05/2020 10:00, Terry Coles wrote:
> On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 09:45:15 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
>> There are several things at play I think:
>> - ibercivis has not implemented checkpointing yet, which means if you
>> switch the computer off all running tasks lose their progress(!)
> In that case, I'd be better off sticking to Rosetta because the computer is 
> in 
> the main bedroom and cannot remain on 24/7.
>
>> - the percentage-completion report seems to be a guess: I see it go up in
>> 10% increments, and sometimes tasks complete earlier than the
>> remaining-time indicated
> I've seen that too.
>
>> - some tasks appear to restart once they get to 50%, but this is expected:
>>https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/forum_thread.php?id=7=180#180
> I've also seen that too.
>
> Lets hope they get all these niggles sorted soon.   I'm going suspend 
> Ibercivis and let Rosetta have all the time until they do.  Hopefully, 
> they'll 
> post something somewhere when the main problem is fixed.

I'll have to abort on one machine too, it doesn't complete tasks quickly
enough for that to work.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Terry Coles
On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 09:45:15 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> There are several things at play I think:
> - ibercivis has not implemented checkpointing yet, which means if you
> switch the computer off all running tasks lose their progress(!)

In that case, I'd be better off sticking to Rosetta because the computer is in 
the main bedroom and cannot remain on 24/7.

> - the percentage-completion report seems to be a guess: I see it go up in
> 10% increments, and sometimes tasks complete earlier than the
> remaining-time indicated

I've seen that too.

> - some tasks appear to restart once they get to 50%, but this is expected:
>https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/forum_thread.php?id=7=180#180

I've also seen that too.

Lets hope they get all these niggles sorted soon.   I'm going suspend 
Ibercivis and let Rosetta have all the time until they do.  Hopefully, they'll 
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-05 Thread Tim Waugh
There are several things at play I think:
- ibercivis has not implemented checkpointing yet, which means if you
switch the computer off all running tasks lose their progress(!)
- the percentage-completion report seems to be a guess: I see it go up in
10% increments, and sometimes tasks complete earlier than the
remaining-time indicated
- some tasks appear to restart once they get to 50%, but this is expected:
   https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/forum_thread.php?id=7=180#180

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> On Sunday, 3 May 2020 14:59:02 BST Terry Coles wrote:
> > I just got seven Tasks.  They are currently shown as 'Ready to Start',
> > presumably waiting until some of the Rosetta Tasks are complete.
>
> This project is weird!
>
> Yesterday when the Tasks started, the estimated remaining time for each
> was
> about four hours.  They then ran all afternoon without seeming to make
> much
> progress.
>
> This morning they were all showing 3hrs and 55 minutes to run, but the
> elapsed
> time had dropped to 35 minutes.  This morning nothing much seemed to be
> happening, but just now I saw that two Tasks are ready to Report.
>
> As I said weird!
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-04 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday, 3 May 2020 14:59:02 BST Terry Coles wrote:
> I just got seven Tasks.  They are currently shown as 'Ready to Start',
> presumably waiting until some of the Rosetta Tasks are complete.

This project is weird!

Yesterday when the Tasks started, the estimated remaining time for each was 
about four hours.  They then ran all afternoon without seeming to make much 
progress.

This morning they were all showing 3hrs and 55 minutes to run, but the elapsed 
time had dropped to 35 minutes.  This morning nothing much seemed to be 
happening, but just now I saw that two Tasks are ready to Report.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-03 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday, 3 May 2020 14:22:16 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> I saw some Ibercivis tasks start today.

I just got seven Tasks.  They are currently shown as 'Ready to Start', 
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-03 Thread Tim Waugh
I saw some Ibercivis tasks start today.

Thanks for the tip about this project!

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> On Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:07:17 BST Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty wrote:
> > Unfortunately no. I guess they're having the same problem Rosetta has
> > been having (though I now get a steady stream of tasks from Rosetta).
>
> Rosetta never stopped giving me tasks, although a few days ago, they
> started
> only giving them to me just in time before the last lot were finished.
> When I
> changed over to the SSH page, I got loads - currently six running, two
> waiting
> for memory and seven ready to start.
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-02 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:07:17 BST Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty wrote:
> Unfortunately no. I guess they're having the same problem Rosetta has
> been having (though I now get a steady stream of tasks from Rosetta).

Rosetta never stopped giving me tasks, although a few days ago, they started 
only giving them to me just in time before the last lot were finished.  When I 
changed over to the SSH page, I got loads - currently six running, two waiting 
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-02 Thread Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty
Unfortunately no. I guess they're having the same problem Rosetta has
been having (though I now get a steady stream of tasks from Rosetta).

Hamish

On 02/05/2020 11:21, Terry Coles wrote:
> On Thursday, 30 April 2020 15:27:33 BST Terry Coles wrote:
>> Still no Ibercivis Tasks, but new Rosetta Tasks still seem to be coming in.
>> The Client seems to be waiting longer before downloading new ones, so it's
>> presumably waiting to see if any higher priority Tasks arrive before
>> allowing this to happen.
> Has *anyone* seen any Tasks yet?  According to this page:
>
> https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/server_status.php
>
> There are 21627 Tasks in progress, but none ready to send!
>
> There are some messages on the Community Forum alluding to this, but I can't 
> work out if there is a bug in the Linux version or simply that the team can't 
> keep up with demand.  The messages are mostly in Spanish, but the most recent 
> message that refers to Task non-availability is five days old.
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-05-02 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday, 30 April 2020 15:27:33 BST Terry Coles wrote:
> Still no Ibercivis Tasks, but new Rosetta Tasks still seem to be coming in.
> The Client seems to be waiting longer before downloading new ones, so it's
> presumably waiting to see if any higher priority Tasks arrive before
> allowing this to happen.

Has *anyone* seen any Tasks yet?  According to this page:

https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/server_status.php

There are 21627 Tasks in progress, but none ready to send!

There are some messages on the Community Forum alluding to this, but I can't 
work out if there is a bug in the Linux version or simply that the team can't 
keep up with demand.  The messages are mostly in Spanish, but the most recent 
message that refers to Task non-availability is five days old.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-04-30 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday, 30 April 2020 11:43:26 BST Terry Coles wrote:
> So I may suspend Ibercivis if no new Tasks are downloaded when the current
> batch have finished processing.  I currently have six tasks Running, two
> Waiting for Memory and one not started.

Still no Ibercivis Tasks, but new Rosetta Tasks still seem to be coming in.  
The Client seems to be waiting longer before downloading new ones, so it's 
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-04-30 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday, 30 April 2020 11:30:11 BST Tim Waugh wrote:
> Looks interesting. Are you picking up tasks from it? I haven't seen any
> yet, just see this in the logs:
> 
> 30-Apr-2020 09:42:04 [ibercivis] Project has no tasks available

Yes.  This is what I get:

Thu 30 Apr 2020 10:47:50 BST | ibercivis | Project has no tasks available

So presumably they aren't ready to start computing yet.

I don't seem to be getting any new Tasks for Rosetta either.  The log says:

Thu 30 Apr 2020 10:47:42 BST | Rosetta@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need 
(CPU: not highest priority project; NVIDIA GPU: )

From the Properties dialogue for Rosetta:

Scheduling priority   -2.11

The corresponding entry for Ibercivis seems to be:

Scheduling priority  -0.00

So I may suspend Ibercivis if no new Tasks are downloaded when the current 
batch have finished processing.  I currently have six tasks Running, two 
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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-04-30 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 10:21, Terry Coles  wrote:

> On Wednesday, 29 April 2020 09:50:22 BST Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty wrote:
> > Just happened across a new project today:
> >
> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto=en=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.csi
> > c.es
> %2Fes%2Factualidad-del-csic%2Fel-csic-e-ibercivis-lanzan-un-proyecto-de-
> > ciencia-ciudadana-que-busca-farmacos
>
> That project looks a bit more focused than Rosetta@Home who seem to be
> modelling the virus and its protein binders.  All good work but it bit
> more
> blue sky than Ibercivis which is more about simulating the action of pre-
> existing drugs to find an effective treatment for COVID19.  I see that as
> our
> best hope, especially if it turns out that no effective vaccine is
> possible.
>
> I am now running both projects.
>

Looks interesting. Are you picking up tasks from it? I haven't seen any
yet, just see this in the logs:

30-Apr-2020 09:42:04 [ibercivis] Project has no tasks available

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-04-29 Thread Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty
On 29/04/2020 10:20, Terry Coles wrote:
> On Wednesday, 29 April 2020 09:50:22 BST Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty wrote:
>> Just happened across a new project today:
>> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto=en=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.csi
>> c.es%2Fes%2Factualidad-del-csic%2Fel-csic-e-ibercivis-lanzan-un-proyecto-de-
>> ciencia-ciudadana-que-busca-farmacos
> That project looks a bit more focused than Rosetta@Home who seem to be 
> modelling the virus and its protein binders.  All good work but it bit more 
> blue sky than Ibercivis which is more about simulating the action of pre-
> existing drugs to find an effective treatment for COVID19.  I see that as our 
> best hope, especially if it turns out that no effective vaccine is possible.
>
> I am now running both projects.
>
Cool :) I managed to get Rosetta working on my Pi 3 too, sort of. I had
to enable 64-bit kernel mode which means that desktop won't load for
some reason, and it doesn't have enough memory for some of the tasks but
every little helps I guess :)

Has anyone seen anything about forcing BOINC to use swap space? If I
managed to do that I could do the full set of tasks on the Pi as well as
my old laptop and desktop.

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Re: [Dorset] New BOINC project that does computing for COVID-19

2020-04-29 Thread Terry Coles
On Wednesday, 29 April 2020 09:50:22 BST Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty wrote:
> Just happened across a new project today:
> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto=en=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.csi
> c.es%2Fes%2Factualidad-del-csic%2Fel-csic-e-ibercivis-lanzan-un-proyecto-de-
> ciencia-ciudadana-que-busca-farmacos

That project looks a bit more focused than Rosetta@Home who seem to be 
modelling the virus and its protein binders.  All good work but it bit more 
blue sky than Ibercivis which is more about simulating the action of pre-
existing drugs to find an effective treatment for COVID19.  I see that as our 
best hope, especially if it turns out that no effective vaccine is possible.

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