Re: [Dorset] Google to Give Away 15, 000 Raspberry Pis to UK Schools
On 31/01/13 18:57, Terry Coles wrote: On Thursday 31 Jan 2013 13:38:55 Ralph Corderoy wrote: What kind of teaching are they going to do? Playing with Scratch, or doing it properly by teaching them logic and flowcharting first, then basics of using a language, and programme structure etc, or what? I don't agree there's only one properly and starting with logic would seem to be a very dry approach with little apparent connection to the real world. Some maths is taught this way and the connection between I agree. At primary level the idea is to make the learning fun, just as the Turtle did on the BBC Micro. Remember the Pi was developed to bring back the magic that the BBC Micro had. Just got one of these yesterday and it's a really impressive bit of kit. And at something like 1/30th the cost of a BBC micro in real terms. Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Google to Give Away 15, 000 Raspberry Pis to UK Schools
On 01/02/13 09:06, Tim Allen wrote: On 31/01/13 18:57, Terry Coles wrote: On Thursday 31 Jan 2013 13:38:55 Ralph Corderoy wrote: What kind of teaching are they going to do? Playing with Scratch, or doing it properly by teaching them logic and flowcharting first, then basics of using a language, and programme structure etc, or what? I don't agree there's only one properly and starting with logic would seem to be a very dry approach with little apparent connection to the real world. Some maths is taught this way and the connection between I agree. At primary level the idea is to make the learning fun, just as the Turtle did on the BBC Micro. Remember the Pi was developed to bring back the magic that the BBC Micro had. Just got one of these yesterday and it's a really impressive bit of kit. And at something like 1/30th the cost of a BBC micro in real terms. Tim Terry - That was the Logo language wasn't it? I wonder if it is available for the R-Pi. Tim - Will you take your R-Pi to the meet on Tuesday, I won't be able to come, but I could pack up mine with an Ethernet hub and PSU so that you could play with it? Cheers, Peter -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Google to Give Away 15, 000 Raspberry Pis to UK Schools
On 01/02/13 10:09, Peter Merchant wrote: On 01/02/13 09:06, Tim Allen wrote: On 31/01/13 18:57, Terry Coles wrote: On Thursday 31 Jan 2013 13:38:55 Ralph Corderoy wrote: What kind of teaching are they going to do? Playing with Scratch, or doing it properly by teaching them logic and flowcharting first, then basics of using a language, and programme structure etc, or what? I don't agree there's only one properly and starting with logic would seem to be a very dry approach with little apparent connection to the real world. Some maths is taught this way and the connection between I agree. At primary level the idea is to make the learning fun, just as the Turtle did on the BBC Micro. Remember the Pi was developed to bring back the magic that the BBC Micro had. Just got one of these yesterday and it's a really impressive bit of kit. And at something like 1/30th the cost of a BBC micro in real terms. Tim Terry - That was the Logo language wasn't it? I wonder if it is available for the R-Pi. Tim - Will you take your R-Pi to the meet on Tuesday, I won't be able to come, but I could pack up mine with an Ethernet hub and PSU so that you could play with it? Cheers, Peter Answering my own question: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34t=28042 P. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Google to Give Away 15, 000 Raspberry Pis to UK Schools
On 01/02/13 10:09, Peter Merchant wrote: On 01/02/13 09:06, Tim Allen wrote: On 31/01/13 18:57, Terry Coles wrote: On Thursday 31 Jan 2013 13:38:55 Ralph Corderoy wrote: What kind of teaching are they going to do? Playing with Scratch, or doing it properly by teaching them logic and flowcharting first, then basics of using a language, and programme structure etc, or what? I don't agree there's only one properly and starting with logic would seem to be a very dry approach with little apparent connection to the real world. Some maths is taught this way and the connection between I agree. At primary level the idea is to make the learning fun, just as the Turtle did on the BBC Micro. Remember the Pi was developed to bring back the magic that the BBC Micro had. Just got one of these yesterday and it's a really impressive bit of kit. And at something like 1/30th the cost of a BBC micro in real terms. Tim Terry - That was the Logo language wasn't it? I wonder if it is available for the R-Pi. Tim - Will you take your R-Pi to the meet on Tuesday, I won't be able to come, but I could pack up mine with an Ethernet hub and PSU so that you could play with it? I won't be able to make the meet. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Google to Give Away 15, 000 Raspberry Pis to UK Schools
Hi Peter, At primary level the idea is to make the learning fun, just as the Turtle did on the BBC Micro. That was the Logo language wasn't it? I wonder if it is available for the R-Pi. I think the domed turtle could be controlled in various ways over its umbilical cord but there was a 16KiB LOGO ROM from Acornsoft that could use it. Every Python installation ships with a `turtle' module that brings Logo-like commands for drawing in a window. An example script and output: http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/turtle.html Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Google to Give Away 15, 000 Raspberry Pis to UK Schools
On 29/01/13 18:21, Terry Coles wrote: Here's some good news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21243825. Google giving 15,000 Raspberry Pis to UK Schools through the Raspberry Pi Foundation. This is doing my head in. What age group at School are they intending to give these to? Below the article is a link to computing in primary schools. Are they just giving the R-Pi? or are they giving a whole kit to enable the school to use them - PSU, Screen, Keyboard Mouse, USB Hub etc? What kind of teaching are they going to do? Playing with Scratch, or doing it properly by teaching them logic and flowcharting first, then basics of using a language, and programme structure etc, or what? I see that one of the outfits mentioned in the article six educational partners, including Code Club, Computing at School, Generating Genius and Coderdojo -- CoderDojo also puts a strong emphasis on open source and free software. Do the others use Open Source, or is it completely inconsistent? Note - Plenty of 'coderdojos' in Ireland, 16 in the UK, None in Dorset. Not a lot to be going on with. Apologies for my rant on this. Peter -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Google to Give Away 15, 000 Raspberry Pis to UK Schools
Hi Peter, Are they just giving the R-Pi? or are they giving a whole kit to enable the school to use them - PSU, Screen, Keyboard Mouse, USB Hub etc? It's a $1M grant. A little more detail is at http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/29/google-giving-grant-worth-525000-to-fund-free-raspberry-pi-for-15000-u-k-schoolkids/ These are $50 bundles [the RasPi is $35], and there’s money in the budget to hire Clive and produce some teaching material too. -- Eben, http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3158#comment-38947 There’s extra money in the grant (we’d initially been asked not to discuss how much it was, but when a news site tried to work the sum out by multiplying $35 by 15000 and got a very wrong figure, we were given permission to talk about it: it’s a million dollars). That’s going to employ Clive; it’ll also provide materials (good quality, printed materials), support for teachers and for kids, and (I believe) peripherals. As for “traditional [IT] bureaucracy” – I’ve been really dismayed by the reaction of the UK’s largest teaching union [NUT]... -- Liz, http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3158#comment-39008 They've just made the initial announcement so far, more details are to follow in the next week or two, in particular how requests for them can be made. AIUI they're keen to deliver them to the pupils and not a school for them to languish unpacked in the back of a cupboard. What kind of teaching are they going to do? Playing with Scratch, or doing it properly by teaching them logic and flowcharting first, then basics of using a language, and programme structure etc, or what? I don't agree there's only one properly and starting with logic would seem to be a very dry approach with little apparent connection to the real world. Some maths is taught this way and the connection between tan() and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Circle-trig6.svg/1000px-Circle-trig6.svg.png is never made. :-) Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Google to Give Away 15, 000 Raspberry Pis to UK Schools
On Thursday 31 Jan 2013 13:38:55 Ralph Corderoy wrote: What kind of teaching are they going to do? Playing with Scratch, or doing it properly by teaching them logic and flowcharting first, then basics of using a language, and programme structure etc, or what? I don't agree there's only one properly and starting with logic would seem to be a very dry approach with little apparent connection to the real world. Some maths is taught this way and the connection between I agree. At primary level the idea is to make the learning fun, just as the Turtle did on the BBC Micro. Remember the Pi was developed to bring back the magic that the BBC Micro had. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Google to Give Away 15, 000 Raspberry Pis to UK Schools
On 29/01/2013 20:27, Peter Merchant wrote: Well, Perhaps that will bring down the prices of HDMI monitors. I couldn't find one under £103 P. There are cheaper ones with DVI, and/or sold as TVs. -- Andrew. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Google to Give Away 15, 000 Raspberry Pis to UK Schools
Any chance of getting a Raspberry Pi form Google for a home schooling family? LOL Andrew Drapper www.Bible-Matters.com *The million dollar question: * Will you go to heaven when you die? Here's a quick test. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything, or used God's name in vain? Jesus said, Whoever looks at a women (or man) to lust for her has already committed adultery with her(him)in his heart. Have you ever looked with lust? Will YOU be guilty on judgement day? If you have done these things God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer-at-heart. The bible warns that if you are guilty you will end up in hell. That's not God's will. He sent His Son Jesus to suffer and die on the cross for you. You broke God's law but Jesus paid your fine. That means He can legally dismiss your case. He can commute your death sentence. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Then He rose from the dead and defeated death. Please turn from your sin today and trust in Jesus as your Saviour and God will grant you the gift of everlasting life. Then read your bible daily and obey it. On 29 January 2013 20:33, Andrew Morgan zil...@ziltro.com wrote: On 29/01/2013 20:27, Peter Merchant wrote: Well, Perhaps that will bring down the prices of HDMI monitors. I couldn't find one under £103 P. There are cheaper ones with DVI, and/or sold as TVs. -- Andrew. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dor...@mailman.lug.org.**ukdorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2013-02-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
