[Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
I recently did a Debian istalll onto a machine which had previously been struggling with Ubuntu. lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) Release: 7.5 Codename: wheezy I have an older machine which I installed Debian onto a while ago, running 6.0.7 squeeze. For both installations I don't believe I did anything out of the ordinary. On the Squeeze machine I have a 'nice', useable desktop with familiar panel and menus (1). On the Wheezy I have something that looks more like the new Ubuntu that I was running away from, when I log in with a 'Gnome Classic' desktop (2). When I log in with regular 'Gnome' session selected it's abominable (3,4). Is there something I need to do to get a good old Gnome 2-ish desktop like I have on Squeeze? 1: Squeeze desktop http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/SqueezeDesktop_zps0970bde2.png.html 2. Wheezy 'Classic' http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/WheezyDesktop1_zpsf7cc4643.png.html 3. Wheezy Gnome with illegible panel - Radio Gnome Invisible B-( http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183526_zps64093321.png.html 4. What I got on a Gnome session screenshot when all I could see was plain blue http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183649_zps0685cfb2.png.html -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
You could try and use the MATE desktop, which is a fork of the old Gnome2 desktop http://mate-desktop.org On 14 Jul 2014 16:14, TimA t...@ls83.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Hi Victor On 14/07/14 15:48, Victor Churchill wrote: I recently did a Debian istalll onto a machine which had previously been struggling with Ubuntu. lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) Release: 7.5 Codename: wheezy I have an older machine which I installed Debian onto a while ago, running 6.0.7 squeeze. For both installations I don't believe I did anything out of the ordinary. On the Squeeze machine I have a 'nice', useable desktop with familiar panel and menus (1). On the Wheezy I have something that looks more like the new Ubuntu that I was running away from, when I log in with a 'Gnome Classic' desktop (2). When I log in with regular 'Gnome' session selected it's abominable (3,4). Is there something I need to do to get a good old Gnome 2-ish desktop like I have on Squeeze? Wheezy went to Gnome 3. XFCE is pretty close in appearance to Gnome 2 and can be installed instead of Gnome (advanced install options if I remember correctly). I migrated all my machines to XFCE when Wheezy came along. It's lean and quick. Cheers Tim 1: Squeeze desktop http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ SqueezeDesktop_zps0970bde2.png.html 2. Wheezy 'Classic' http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ WheezyDesktop1_zpsf7cc4643.png.html 3. Wheezy Gnome with illegible panel - Radio Gnome Invisible B-( http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183526_zps64093321.png.html 4. What I got on a Gnome session screenshot when all I could see was plain blue http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183649_zps0685cfb2.png.html -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
MATE is also an alternative that I believe is in the official repositories now - it's a fork of Gnome 2 and is effectively identical but for names (Due to licensing restrictions, I believe). On 14 July 2014 16:13, TimA t...@ls83.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Hi Victor On 14/07/14 15:48, Victor Churchill wrote: I recently did a Debian istalll onto a machine which had previously been struggling with Ubuntu. lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) Release: 7.5 Codename: wheezy I have an older machine which I installed Debian onto a while ago, running 6.0.7 squeeze. For both installations I don't believe I did anything out of the ordinary. On the Squeeze machine I have a 'nice', useable desktop with familiar panel and menus (1). On the Wheezy I have something that looks more like the new Ubuntu that I was running away from, when I log in with a 'Gnome Classic' desktop (2). When I log in with regular 'Gnome' session selected it's abominable (3,4). Is there something I need to do to get a good old Gnome 2-ish desktop like I have on Squeeze? Wheezy went to Gnome 3. XFCE is pretty close in appearance to Gnome 2 and can be installed instead of Gnome (advanced install options if I remember correctly). I migrated all my machines to XFCE when Wheezy came along. It's lean and quick. Cheers Tim 1: Squeeze desktop http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ SqueezeDesktop_zps0970bde2.png.html 2. Wheezy 'Classic' http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ WheezyDesktop1_zpsf7cc4643.png.html 3. Wheezy Gnome with illegible panel - Radio Gnome Invisible B-( http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183526_zps64093321.png.html 4. What I got on a Gnome session screenshot when all I could see was plain blue http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183649_zps0685cfb2.png.html -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
Thanks everybody. I figured that something like that had hapened but did not know how to get back to a Gnome 2-like place. I have used XFCE in the past happily so have installed that and wil also give MAte a go, as I have heard some good things about it. Thanks again! On 14 July 2014 16:58, StarLion duked...@gmail.com wrote: MATE is also an alternative that I believe is in the official repositories now - it's a fork of Gnome 2 and is effectively identical but for names (Due to licensing restrictions, I believe). On 14 July 2014 16:13, TimA t...@ls83.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Hi Victor On 14/07/14 15:48, Victor Churchill wrote: I recently did a Debian istalll onto a machine which had previously been struggling with Ubuntu. lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) Release: 7.5 Codename: wheezy I have an older machine which I installed Debian onto a while ago, running 6.0.7 squeeze. For both installations I don't believe I did anything out of the ordinary. On the Squeeze machine I have a 'nice', useable desktop with familiar panel and menus (1). On the Wheezy I have something that looks more like the new Ubuntu that I was running away from, when I log in with a 'Gnome Classic' desktop (2). When I log in with regular 'Gnome' session selected it's abominable (3,4). Is there something I need to do to get a good old Gnome 2-ish desktop like I have on Squeeze? Wheezy went to Gnome 3. XFCE is pretty close in appearance to Gnome 2 and can be installed instead of Gnome (advanced install options if I remember correctly). I migrated all my machines to XFCE when Wheezy came along. It's lean and quick. Cheers Tim 1: Squeeze desktop http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ SqueezeDesktop_zps0970bde2.png.html 2. Wheezy 'Classic' http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ WheezyDesktop1_zpsf7cc4643.png.html 3. Wheezy Gnome with illegible panel - Radio Gnome Invisible B-( http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183526_zps64093321.png.html 4. What I got on a Gnome session screenshot when all I could see was plain blue http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183649_zps0685cfb2.png.html -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
Yep, I took David W's advice and installed MATE on a new Debian VM, and I haven't regretted it. On 14 Jul 2014 18:26, David Wilkinson da...@noroutetohost.net wrote: +1 for MATE, Run it on all my newer builds. On 14/07/14 16:58, StarLion wrote: MATE is also an alternative that I believe is in the official repositories now - it's a fork of Gnome 2 and is effectively identical but for names (Due to licensing restrictions, I believe). -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
OK, have installed Mate and first impressions are pretty positive. WIll run with it for a while and compare the experience with Lubuntu on works laptop and SQueeze on the other box. Thanks! On 14 July 2014 22:14, John Carlyle-Clarke j...@wormdrive.net wrote: Yep, I took David W's advice and installed MATE on a new Debian VM, and I haven't regretted it. On 14 Jul 2014 18:26, David Wilkinson da...@noroutetohost.net wrote: +1 for MATE, Run it on all my newer builds. On 14/07/14 16:58, StarLion wrote: MATE is also an alternative that I believe is in the official repositories now - it's a fork of Gnome 2 and is effectively identical but for names (Due to licensing restrictions, I believe). -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
