Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-23 Thread Peter Merchant
First I've heard of that.  I thought that Chromium was the fully Open 
Source

version of Chrome with all the nasty Google tracking stuff removed.

From Linux Insider: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/79510.html

n general, though, people should choose Chrome or Chromium based on 
their use case, Shah advised. Since Chrome includes a few additional 
add-ons such as built-in Flash and a PDF viewer, most people find that 
it works well for them.


However, open-source developers may prefer Chromium, he concluded, 
if they are often tinkering with source code or modifying their own 
distribution.


- See more at: 
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/79510.html#sthash.5BEvVijR.dpuf



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- See more at: 
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However, open-source developers may prefer Chromium, he concluded, 
if they are often tinkering with source code or modifying their own 
distribution.



sorry  about that. When I pasted it didn't show.

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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-23 Thread Terry Coles
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2014 08:42:38 Peter Merchant wrote:
  From Linux Insider: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/79510.html
  
  n general, though, people should choose Chrome or Chromium based on
  their use case, Shah advised. Since Chrome includes a few additional
  add-ons such as built-in Flash and a PDF viewer, most people find that
  it works well for them.
  
  However, open-source developers may prefer Chromium, he concluded,
  if they are often tinkering with source code or modifying their own
  distribution.
  
  - See more at:
  http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/79510.html#sthash.5BEvVijR.dpuf

Hmm.  I have Chromium as I've already said.  I don't recall if I had to 
install Pepper Flash manually, but I certainly didn't install a PDF viewer.

Both Flash (YouTube) and PDF files work fine.  I think maybe that review is a 
bit out of date.

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[Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Peter Merchant

Has anybody else had similar problems and got it working?
It's Kubuntu 14.04,
Chrome Version 37.0.2062.120,
Flash upgraded to Version:15.0.0.152,

and it still doesn't make any sound  when I try and play a you-tube 
video.  I have got sound working because if I copy the URL to firefox, 
it does work.


Thanks,

Peter M.


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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Terry Coles
On Monday 22 Sep 2014 16:25:43 Peter Merchant wrote:
 Has anybody else had similar problems and got it working?
 It's Kubuntu 14.04,
 Chrome Version 37.0.2062.120,
 Flash upgraded to Version:15.0.0.152,

Chrome Version 37.0.2062.94, Ubuntu 14.04 (290621) (64-bit) and Kubuntu 
Restricted Extras Version 60 works OK for me.  AFAICT, there is no explicit 
Flash installation.  What package is installed to give you Version 15.0.0.152?

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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Peter Merchant

On 22/09/14 16:40, Terry Coles wrote:

On Monday 22 Sep 2014 16:25:43 Peter Merchant wrote:

Has anybody else had similar problems and got it working?
It's Kubuntu 14.04,
Chrome Version 37.0.2062.120,
Flash upgraded to Version:15.0.0.152,

Chrome Version 37.0.2062.94, Ubuntu 14.04 (290621) (64-bit) and Kubuntu
Restricted Extras Version 60 works OK for me.  AFAICT, there is no explicit
Flash installation.  What package is installed to give you Version 15.0.0.152?


From The Readme:
Adobe Systems Incorporated
Flash Player 11 for Linux
Version 11.2.202.406
2014

The instructions were to copy the libflashplayer.so into a directory, 
and the USR folder into a usr folder, and restart Chrome. That's when it 
then said it was version 15.***



This all came from a tar.gz file as the Adobe site instruction for 
loading to Ubuntu didn't work. they gave the error:Unknown channel 
'trusty-partner'


Actually they also said that it was version 11.2.202.406?

P.





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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Peter,

 The instructions were to copy the libflashplayer.so into a directory, 
 and the USR folder into a usr folder, and restart Chrome.

But https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/108086?hl=en-GB says

Adobe Flash Player is directly integrated with Google Chrome and
enabled by default.  Available updates for Adobe Flash Player are
automatically included in Chrome system updates.

and goes on to say how to enable/disable it.  Do you normally install
Flash from Adobe separately?

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Terry Coles
On Monday 22 Sep 2014 18:02:02 Ralph Corderoy wrote:
 Hi Peter,
 
  The instructions were to copy the libflashplayer.so into a directory,
  and the USR folder into a usr folder, and restart Chrome.
 
 But https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/108086?hl=en-GB says
 
 Adobe Flash Player is directly integrated with Google Chrome and
 enabled by default.  Available updates for Adobe Flash Player are
 automatically included in Chrome system updates.
 
 and goes on to say how to enable/disable it.  Do you normally install
 Flash from Adobe separately?

I'm still not sure whether you are running Chrome or Chromium.  If the former; 
any particular reason why?  If the latter; why not just take the defaults?

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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Peter Merchant

On 22/09/14 18:19, Terry Coles wrote:

On Monday 22 Sep 2014 18:02:02 Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Hi Peter,


The instructions were to copy the libflashplayer.so into a directory,
and the USR folder into a usr folder, and restart Chrome.

But https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/108086?hl=en-GB says

 Adobe Flash Player is directly integrated with Google Chrome and
 enabled by default.  Available updates for Adobe Flash Player are
 automatically included in Chrome system updates.

and goes on to say how to enable/disable it.  Do you normally install
Flash from Adobe separately?

I'm still not sure whether you are running Chrome or Chromium.  If the former;
any particular reason why?  If the latter; why not just take the defaults?


Terry:- It's Chrome.
Ralph:- Well it's never worked since the last upgrade, and I can't 
remember if it worked before. Usually after some system upgrades, the 
installation of flash fails and I have to run it separately.


I think my next step is to un-install chrome, and then re-install it.

I'll let you know.

P.

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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Terry Coles
On Monday 22 Sep 2014 19:09:08 Peter Merchant wrote:
 Terry:- It's Chrome.

So why the horribly buggy Adobe Flash, instead of Pepper Flash which Google 
uses by default in Chrome.

They removed the Adobe Flash Plugin for a reason you know :-)

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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Sam Davis
Hi,

No solution/information to add unfortunately but I also have this problem
on Arch 3.16 using chromium/pepper flash. You're not alone :-)

Sam
On 22 Sep 2014 19:16, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote:

 On Monday 22 Sep 2014 19:09:08 Peter Merchant wrote:
  Terry:- It's Chrome.

 So why the horribly buggy Adobe Flash, instead of Pepper Flash which Google
 uses by default in Chrome.

 They removed the Adobe Flash Plugin for a reason you know :-)

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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Peter Merchant

On 22/09/14 19:16, Terry Coles wrote:

On Monday 22 Sep 2014 19:09:08 Peter Merchant wrote:
  Terry:- It's Chrome.

So why the horribly buggy Adobe Flash, instead of Pepper Flash which Google
uses by default in Chrome.

They removed the Adobe Flash Plugin for a reason you know :-)


OK, I am sufficiently chastised.

I removed and re-installed it, and it works now. Thanks for help and 
advice. I nearly installed chromium, but the review said that it was 
more for developers.


[If I do the same for Skype, will my webcam work? ]

Peter



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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Terry Coles
On Monday 22 Sep 2014 19:54:24 Peter Merchant wrote:
 On 22/09/14 19:16, Terry Coles wrote:
  So why the horribly buggy Adobe Flash, instead of Pepper Flash which
  Google
  uses by default in Chrome.
  
  They removed the Adobe Flash Plugin for a reason you know :-)
 
 OK, I am sufficiently chastised.
 
 I removed and re-installed it, and it works now. Thanks for help and
 advice. I nearly installed chromium, but the review said that it was
 more for developers.

First I've heard of that.  I thought that Chromium was the fully Open Source 
version of Chrome with all the nasty Google tracking stuff removed.

 [If I do the same for Skype, will my webcam work? ]

Dunno.  Probably not.

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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Stephen Wolff
 So why the horribly buggy Adobe Flash, instead of Pepper Flash which
 Google
 uses by default in Chrome.

 They removed the Adobe Flash Plugin for a reason you know :-)
 OK, I am sufficiently chastised.

 I removed and re-installed it, and it works now. Thanks for help and
 advice. I nearly installed chromium, but the review said that it was
 more for developers.
I thought video in general on the web was moving away from Flash, due to
iDevices not supporting it. Don't YouTube encode their videos for
playback using Flash or HTML5 browser native video tag?

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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Peter Merchant

On 22/09/14 20:31, Terry Coles wrote:

On Monday 22 Sep 2014 19:54:24 Peter Merchant wrote:

On 22/09/14 19:16, Terry Coles wrote:

So why the horribly buggy Adobe Flash, instead of Pepper Flash which
Google
uses by default in Chrome.

They removed the Adobe Flash Plugin for a reason you know :-)

OK, I am sufficiently chastised.

I removed and re-installed it, and it works now. Thanks for help and
advice. I nearly installed chromium, but the review said that it was
more for developers.

First I've heard of that.  I thought that Chromium was the fully Open Source
version of Chrome with all the nasty Google tracking stuff removed.

From Linux Insider: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/79510.html

n general, though, people should choose Chrome or Chromium based on 
their use case, Shah advised. Since Chrome includes a few additional 
add-ons such as built-in Flash and a PDF viewer, most people find that 
it works well for them.


However, open-source developers may prefer Chromium, he concluded, if 
they are often tinkering with source code or modifying their own 
distribution.


- See more at: 
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/79510.html#sthash.5BEvVijR.dpuf


n general, though, people should choose Chrome or Chromium based on 
their use case, Shah advised. Since Chrome includes a few additional 
add-ons such as built-in Flash and a PDF viewer, most people find that 
it works well for them.


However, open-source developers may prefer Chromium, he concluded, if 
they are often tinkering with source code or modifying their own 
distribution.


- See more at: 
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/79510.html#sthash.5BEvVijR.dpuf


In general, though, people should choose Chrome or Chromium based on 
their use case, Shah advised. Since Chrome includes a few additional 
add-ons such as built-in Flash and a PDF viewer, most people find that 
it works well for them.


However, open-source developers may prefer Chromium, he concluded, if 
they are often tinkering with source code or modifying their own 
distribution.


- See more at: 
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/79510.html#sthash.5BEvVijR.dpuf


However, open-source developers may prefer Chromium, he concluded, if 
they are often tinkering with source code or modifying their own 
distribution. - See more at: 
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/79510.html#sthash.5BEvVijR.dpuf


In general, though, people should choose Chrome or Chromium based on 
their use case, Shah advised. Since Chrome includes a few additional 
add-ons such as built-in Flash and a PDF viewer, most people find that 
it works well for them.


However, open-source developers may prefer Chromium, he concluded, if 
they are often tinkering with source code or modifying their own 
distribution.


- See more at: 
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/79510.html#sthash.5BEvVijR.dpuf
However, open-source developers may prefer Chromium, he concluded, if 
they are often tinkering with source code or modifying their own 
distribution.

[If I do the same for Skype, will my webcam work? ]

Dunno.  Probably not.

Got Skype video working  via another means. A good evenings 
accomplishments, even if it wasn't what I wanted to do with my evening.

P

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Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu - Chrome - Flash and NO sound

2014-09-22 Thread Andrew

On 22/09/14 20:50, Stephen Wolff wrote:

I thought video in general on the web was moving away from Flash, due to
iDevices not supporting it. Don't YouTube encode their videos for
playback using Flash or HTML5 browser native video tag?



They do for newer videos, but you still have to enable it manually. (And 
if you have your browser set to delete cookies on shutdown you have to 
enable it every time you visit the site after opening a new browser 
session.)


https://www.youtube.com/html5

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