Re: [Dorset] OT: Backup Software for Windows

2012-03-06 Thread Payne, Tony
Hi Terry,

I use Acronis for our installations and at home on my PC. The home version is 
relatively cheap and fairly easy to set up; once it's running on a schedule you 
can forget about it.


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[mailto:dorset-boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Dominic Lonsdale
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Subject: Re: [Dorset] OT: Backup Software for Windows

I am using Backup , running on Ubuntu, to a Verbatim drive plugged into
a USB socket.

It is clever enough to delay if the drive is not plugged in and then to
do the backup (automatically) when the drive is eventually plugged in at
some later time.

Regards,

Nic




On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 21:40 +, Terry Coles wrote:
 Hi,
  
 My niece has just bought herself an external USB drive so she can backup her 
 files. She doesn't know much about it, apart from that she needs to take 
 backups (a huge step forward I think).  She's asked me for a good backup 
 program.
  
 I used to use a good one on my daughter's computer, but when her hard disk 
 failed, it turned out that she hadn't been running it anyway and she lost 
 everything (including the name of the backup software I'd installed). As a 
 result I can't find the darn thing.
  
 So I'm looking for a good Windows Backup program than does incremental 
 backups 
 (not sync) to external drives. My niece is quite switched on, so I'm sure 
 she'll get the hang of it without too much difficulty, but (like anything) if 
 using it is too clunky she'll stop. It needs therefore to be reasonably easy 
 to get working for a lay person and also to get data back when needed.
  
 Any ideas?
  


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[Dorset] OT: Backup Software for Windows

2012-03-05 Thread Terry Coles
Hi,
 
My niece has just bought herself an external USB drive so she can backup her 
files. She doesn't know much about it, apart from that she needs to take 
backups (a huge step forward I think).  She's asked me for a good backup 
program.
 
I used to use a good one on my daughter's computer, but when her hard disk 
failed, it turned out that she hadn't been running it anyway and she lost 
everything (including the name of the backup software I'd installed). As a 
result I can't find the darn thing.
 
So I'm looking for a good Windows Backup program than does incremental backups 
(not sync) to external drives. My niece is quite switched on, so I'm sure 
she'll get the hang of it without too much difficulty, but (like anything) if 
using it is too clunky she'll stop. It needs therefore to be reasonably easy 
to get working for a lay person and also to get data back when needed.
 
Any ideas?
 
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Re: [Dorset] OT: Backup Software for Windows

2012-03-05 Thread Andrew Morgan


On 05/03/12 21:40, Terry Coles wrote:

So I'm looking for a good Windows Backup program than does incremental backups
(not sync) to external drives. My niece is quite switched on, so I'm sure
she'll get the hang of it without too much difficulty, but (like anything) if
using it is too clunky she'll stop. It needs therefore to be reasonably easy
to get working for a lay person and also to get data back when needed.

Any ideas?



Cygwin + rdiff-backup?

Can be run on demand from a shortcut or on a schedule.

IIRC, the syntax to create a backup is pretty much 'rdiff-backup $source 
$destination'.


In case you haven't used rdiff-backup before, you'll end up with a copy 
of the files which can be recovered easily using regular file-system 
tools (the sync method you said you didn't want ;) ) but as well as that 
you can recover to any point at which you created a backup, as it stores 
diffs or similar.


Of course as it never deletes anything automatically the disk might run 
out of space if there are lots of changes, but it is possible to remove 
older backups somehow. I don't know how as I haven't run out of space on 
my rdiff-backup target yet so I haven't needed to look up how to do it. :)


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Re: [Dorset] OT: Backup Software for Windows

2012-03-05 Thread Dominic Lonsdale
I am using Backup , running on Ubuntu, to a Verbatim drive plugged into
a USB socket.

It is clever enough to delay if the drive is not plugged in and then to
do the backup (automatically) when the drive is eventually plugged in at
some later time.

Regards,

Nic




On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 21:40 +, Terry Coles wrote:
 Hi,
  
 My niece has just bought herself an external USB drive so she can backup her 
 files. She doesn't know much about it, apart from that she needs to take 
 backups (a huge step forward I think).  She's asked me for a good backup 
 program.
  
 I used to use a good one on my daughter's computer, but when her hard disk 
 failed, it turned out that she hadn't been running it anyway and she lost 
 everything (including the name of the backup software I'd installed). As a 
 result I can't find the darn thing.
  
 So I'm looking for a good Windows Backup program than does incremental 
 backups 
 (not sync) to external drives. My niece is quite switched on, so I'm sure 
 she'll get the hang of it without too much difficulty, but (like anything) if 
 using it is too clunky she'll stop. It needs therefore to be reasonably easy 
 to get working for a lay person and also to get data back when needed.
  
 Any ideas?
  


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Re: [Dorset] OT: Backup Software for Windows

2012-03-05 Thread Martin Hepworth
I use an online service called backblaZe $50 a year . Works well just sits
in the background .. Free email restore for a smaller restotes and then its
a USB or hd delivery if u need more

Others are uk based and I'd suggest this over a local drive which can also
die on u

On Monday, 5 March 2012, Andrew Morgan zil...@ziltro.com wrote:

 On 05/03/12 21:40, Terry Coles wrote:

 So I'm looking for a good Windows Backup program than does incremental
backups
 (not sync) to external drives. My niece is quite switched on, so I'm sure
 she'll get the hang of it without too much difficulty, but (like
anything) if
 using it is too clunky she'll stop. It needs therefore to be reasonably
easy
 to get working for a lay person and also to get data back when needed.

 Any ideas?


 Cygwin + rdiff-backup?

 Can be run on demand from a shortcut or on a schedule.

 IIRC, the syntax to create a backup is pretty much 'rdiff-backup $source
$destination'.

 In case you haven't used rdiff-backup before, you'll end up with a copy
of the files which can be recovered easily using regular file-system tools
(the sync method you said you didn't want ;) ) but as well as that you can
recover to any point at which you created a backup, as it stores diffs or
similar.

 Of course as it never deletes anything automatically the disk might run
out of space if there are lots of changes, but it is possible to remove
older backups somehow. I don't know how as I haven't run out of space on my
rdiff-backup target yet so I haven't needed to look up how to do it. :)

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