Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Friday, 15 July 2016 12:10:13 BST Terry Coles wrote:
> I'm still hoping that the problem is incompatibility with PCIe V2.0 graphics
> cards.  The trouble is that the card that he has ordered is not available
> and the supplier is awaiting new stock.  He doesn't want to cancel the
> order and buy from elsewhere, because the price has risen by nearly £100
> since he placed his order.

Correction.  On Amazon (where we ordered it) the price (from other sellers) is 
now £175 more.

I've just spoken to Amazon (I placed the order for him) and they have no idea 
when they will get new stock.  My fear is not until the price drops back to 
the level it was when we ordered it.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Friday, 15 July 2016 12:32:55 BST Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> > I'm still hoping that the problem is incompatibility with PCIe V2.0
> > graphics cards.
> 
> I couldn't find anything that suggested that's a problem.  PCIe V1, yes,
> possibly.

That shows the difference between us.  I'm an optimist and

> > I'll ask him, but he's a finicky kind of person
> 
> I like to think of it as "precise".  :-)

If you knew him you would think of finicky.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Ralph Corderoy]

Hi Terry,

> I'm still hoping that the problem is incompatibility with PCIe V2.0
> graphics cards.

I couldn't find anything that suggested that's a problem.  PCIe V1, yes,
possibly.

> I'll ask him, but he's a finicky kind of person

I like to think of it as "precise".  :-)

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Friday, 15 July 2016 10:26:45 BST Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> Perhaps it's a very popular board, but there's a lot of "no signal"
> stuff on the Internet with all kinds of solutions.  Changing the slots
> used for the RAM, etc.  One that stood out was bent pins in the CPU
> socket, especially in a corner.  Apparently they're very thin and soft
> gold in that socket and easily damaged.  I know taking the CPU out is a
> hassle, and you might want to wait until the intended graphics card has
> turned up to rule that out, but it seems the CPU is getting part of the
> way because the beeps change as you tinker so it could be pins affecting
> some of its function.

Yes.  I think my son has read most of the suggested solutions and tried many.  
He also 
believes that the problem may be a bent pin in the CPU socket, but is reluctant 
to pull it 
out until he has some thermal paste and paste cleaning solution, so that he can 
put it back 
properly.

I'm still hoping that the problem is incompatibility with PCIe V2.0 graphics 
cards.  The 
trouble is that the card that he has ordered is not available and the supplier 
is awaiting 
new stock.  He doesn't want to cancel the order and buy from elsewhere, because 
the 
price has risen by nearly £100 since he placed his order.

> Did the motherboard box seem pristine when it arrived?  Cardboard stiff
> to open, etc?  Tekheads, years ago, sent me a motherboard that had felt
> tip on its sleeve that lined up with the mounting holes.  That got sent
> back, presumably to be sent out to yet another customer.

I'll ask him, but he's a finicky kind of person, so I'm sure he would have 
mentioned it if he 
thought the box had been opened or the board previously used.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Ralph Corderoy]

Hi Terry,

> It's an MSI X99A Raider:
> https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X99A-RAIDER.html#down-manual[1] 

Perhaps it's a very popular board, but there's a lot of "no signal"
stuff on the Internet with all kinds of solutions.  Changing the slots
used for the RAM, etc.  One that stood out was bent pins in the CPU
socket, especially in a corner.  Apparently they're very thin and soft
gold in that socket and easily damaged.  I know taking the CPU out is a
hassle, and you might want to wait until the intended graphics card has
turned up to rule that out, but it seems the CPU is getting part of the
way because the beeps change as you tinker so it could be pins affecting
some of its function.

Did the motherboard box seem pristine when it arrived?  Cardboard stiff
to open, etc?  Tekheads, years ago, sent me a motherboard that had felt
tip on its sleeve that lined up with the mounting holes.  That got sent
back, presumably to be sent out to yet another customer.

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Thursday, 14 July 2016 11:10:14 BST Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> I don't think you've told us the motherboard model?
> Could the BIOS provide network access for configuration?

It's an MSI X99A Raider:

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X99A-RAIDER.html#down-manual[1] 

I haven't found anything in the manual about access to the BIOS over the 
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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Ralph Corderoy]

Hi Terry,

I don't think you've told us the motherboard model?
Could the BIOS provide network access for configuration?

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Thursday, 14 July 2016 09:53:44 BST Peter Merchant wrote:
> On 14/07/16 08:49, Terry Coles wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 13 July 2016 21:40:29 BST Andrew wrote:
> >> Assuming the OS is going to be Linux-based, install it on the hard disk
> >> using another machine (Possibly using a USB to SATA adapter), then plug
> >> the hard disk into the 'real' computer. If you install an SSH server you
> >> might find you can connect using that even if there's no working video,
> >> then at least you can see if the machine works.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, he's going to put Windows on it.
> 
> Terry, You some time ago gave me a hard disk which now  has Zorin on it.
> Do you want it back for experimenting?

We have quite a few hard disks loafing around here, which I could install 
something on.  The problem I see with this is that since the new motherboard 
is UEFI it will expect an EFI partition as well as the bootloader in the right 
place.

Having installed the software on another machine, with totally different 
hardware, etc, I can't see that I can reliably get the thing to boot when I 
have no ability to disable Secure Boot or see where I am in the process (or 
more importantly why it isn't booting).  If anyone can suggest a method that 
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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Wednesday, 13 July 2016 21:40:29 BST Andrew wrote:
> Try another graphics card in that computer.

We've now tried three.  However, all three were PCIe V2.0, while the slot is 
V3.0.  I'm trying 
to find out if that might be a problem.

> Try that graphics card in another computer.

We don't have access to another desktop PC which will take a full-height card.

> Assuming the OS is going to be Linux-based, install it on the hard disk
> using another machine (Possibly using a USB to SATA adapter), then plug
> the hard disk into the 'real' computer. If you install an SSH server you
> might find you can connect using that even if there's no working video,
> then at least you can see if the machine works.

Unfortunately, he's going to put Windows on it.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Patrick Wigmore]

On Wednesday 13 Jul 2016, at 21:40:29, Andrew wrote:
> Assuming the OS is going to be Linux-based, install it on the
> hard disk using another machine (Possibly using a USB to SATA
> adapter), then plug the hard disk into the 'real' computer. If
> you install an SSH server you might find you can connect using
> that even if there's no working video, then at least you can
> see if the machine works.

You could also just try booting a live USB or CD. If you get the 
expected pattern of read activity on the USB/CD drive (after 
inputting any keystrokes or waiting for any menu timeout required 
by the live system's bootloader) then I think that's pretty good 
evidence that the machine has at least run the bootloader and 
live OS. (One situation where the slowness and noisiness of non-
sequential reads from optical media might be useful!)

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Andrew]

On 13/07/16 19:23, Terry Coles wrote:

We get three beeps with no memory.


That proves that the CPU is running and it has at least loaded some of 
the RAM-init code from the flash chip.


To add a couple of suggestions you've probably thought of:

Try another graphics card in that computer.

Try that graphics card in another computer.

Assuming the OS is going to be Linux-based, install it on the hard disk 
using another machine (Possibly using a USB to SATA adapter), then plug 
the hard disk into the 'real' computer. If you install an SSH server you 
might find you can connect using that even if there's no working video, 
then at least you can see if the machine works.


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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Wednesday, 13 July 2016 18:56:21 BST Neil Stone wrote:
> Will it fire up without gfx card in?

Yes.

> If so, does it beep?

No.

> Try attaching a set of speakers (May sound odd but this has provided
> audible feedback in the past) and booting with them live.

Not a peep.

> Remove the cpu... try booting..

We'll try that later.  My son is not keen to disturb the CPU until we've 
exhausted every other solution and has a batch of thermal paste and cleaner so 
that it can be put back properly.

> If you get no error beeps without cpu something is well and truly screwed.
> If nothing without graphics similar.

We get three beeps with no memory.  This motherboard may not worry too much if 
there is no graphics card because it supports CPUs with integrated graphics.  
Having it beep for no graphics card would preclude people using that feature.

> Providing there is enough power to the motherboard and attached devices it
> should at least try... try and fail perhaps, but at least try...

I'm not sure what you mean by 'try'.  Apart from the beeps, the fans running 
and the BIOS LED lighting up, there is nothing to indicated what is happening.
 
> Failing that it may be that you have a duff motherboard (or a short
> underneath it?)

That's the next step, if we can't discover anything else.


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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Neil Stone]

OK

Will it fire up without gfx card in?
If so, does it beep?
Try attaching a set of speakers (May sound odd but this has provided
audible feedback in the past) and booting with them live.
Remove the cpu... try booting..

If you get no error beeps without cpu something is well and truly screwed.
If nothing without graphics similar.

Providing there is enough power to the motherboard and attached devices it
should at least try... try and fail perhaps, but at least try...

Failing that it may be that you have a duff motherboard (or a short
underneath it?)
On 13 Jul 2016 18:51, "Terry Coles"  wrote:

> On Wednesday, 13 July 2016 10:31:53 BST Neil Stone wrote:
> > It should beep one short beep on successful POST.
> >
> > Did you try the CMOS clear I suggested? I may have missed it in an
> earlier
> > post if you mentioned this.
>
> We have now.  That didn't work either.
>
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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Wednesday, 13 July 2016 10:31:53 BST Neil Stone wrote:
> It should beep one short beep on successful POST.
> 
> Did you try the CMOS clear I suggested? I may have missed it in an earlier
> post if you mentioned this.

We have now.  That didn't work either.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 18:13:03 BST Terry Coles wrote:
> On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 17:49:45 BST Tim wrote:
> > I have a couple of graphics card that are low power basic type if you
> > want to have a test (I am in Kinson)

Tim,

Thanks for the loan.  Unfortunately, neither worked.

All,

(Clutching at straws.)

Both of Tim's cards are PCIe 16 V2.0 and the motherboard has PCIe 16 V3.0 
slots.  I have found pages on the Internet that state that PCIe has 'backwards 
compatibility' insofar as a motherboard with a PCIe V2.0 slot can support a 
V3.0 card (albeit at lower performance).  What I can't find on the Internet is 
confirmation that it works the other way round, with a V2.0 card in a V3.0 
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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Simon Avery]

On 13 July 2016 at 10:27, Terry Coles  wrote:

> > Obvious stuff; Ensure any additional power leads are connected (molex 4,
> or
> > 6 or even 8-way leads are not uncommon and need plugging in too)
>
> That's the bit I'm not sure about.  My son's PSU came with standard power
> leads
> designated 'VGA' each of which had a four-pin connector at the remote end.
> Unfortunately, the graphics card doesn't have that kind of connector, but
> it does have
> multi-way 'fingers' to take an edge connector of some kind.  I have no
> idea what those
> pins are for.
>

That's probably for another graphics card - SLI is the Nvidia method - so
you can have two working together for more speed, and it should function
perfectly well without that ever being connected to anything.

Any power connector will be proper moulded plastic. It may not have any if
it's a budget one! The leads you describe sound like 2x 4-ways like this
one on the left, and the card I have in my desktop PC would need both
connecting before it boots up.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/pcie6.jpg

> Not seated properly, or in an incompatible slot.
> AFAIK this is not an issue.  The board clicks home OK and the card and the
> slot are both
> PCIe 16.  However, the card is PCIe V2.0 and the recommended slot on the
> motherboard is
> V3.0.  This is stated to be OK on Wikipedia (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> PCI_Express#PCI_Express_3.0[1] ), unless I've misinterpreted the words.
>


Afraid I've not encountered that situation myself, but may be an issue. (I
did upgrade my card two years ago and ended up buying a whole new
motherboard, cpu and memory as a result - these things happen to all of us!)


> > Could easily be bad mobo instead of graphics card, or the memory is
> > incompatible/not seated preventing POST.
> Hopefully the motherboard is OK; time will tell I guess, once we've tried
> it with the target
> graphics card we'll know more.  Tim has offered the loan of a more modern
> card, so that may help to eliminate the card.
>

Smashing, that should help.


> > PSU doesn't have enough power?
> It's a whacking great gaming PSU; an EVGA SuperNova P2 which provides 850
> W.
>

Ok, not that then! (Especially not if the gpu isn't taking any of it other
than via PCI)


> > Replace monitor lead.
> Works on his laptop.
>

Not that, then.


> Thanks for the suggestions.
>

You're welcome, I hope it starts working soon.
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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Neil Stone]

It should beep one short beep on successful POST.

Did you try the CMOS clear I suggested? I may have missed it in an earlier
post if you mentioned this.
On 13 Jul 2016 10:27, "Terry Coles"  wrote:

> On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 23:35:01 BST Simon Avery wrote:
> > Obvious stuff; Ensure any additional power leads are connected (molex 4,
> or
> > 6 or even 8-way leads are not uncommon and need plugging in too)
>
> That's the bit I'm not sure about.  My son's PSU came with standard power
> leads
> designated 'VGA' each of which had a four-pin connector at the remote end.
> Unfortunately, the graphics card doesn't have that kind of connector, but
> it does have
> multi-way 'fingers' to take an edge connector of some kind.  I have no
> idea what those
> pins are for.
>
> > Google for card compatibility with the motherboard.
>
> Unfortunately, we get very few hits and none that mention compatibility
> either way.
>
> > Not seated properly, or in an incompatible slot.
>
> AFAIK this is not an issue.  The board clicks home OK and the card and the
> slot are both
> PCIe 16.  However, the card is PCIe V2.0 and the recommended slot on the
> motherboard is
> V3.0.  This is stated to be OK on Wikipedia (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> PCI_Express#PCI_Express_3.0[1] ), unless I've misinterpreted the words.
>
> > Could easily be bad mobo instead of graphics card, or the memory is
> > incompatible/not seated preventing POST.
>
> Hopefully the motherboard is OK; time will tell I guess, once we've tried
> it with the target
> graphics card we'll know more.  Tim has offered the loan of a more modern
> card, so that
> may help to eliminate the card.
>
> > PSU doesn't have enough power?
>
> It's a whacking great gaming PSU; an EVGA SuperNova P2 which provides 850
> W.
>
> > Ensure monitor is compatible. (Most modern stuff will tell you if it's
> > outside supported resolutions)
>
> The message from the monitor is 'No Signal' so it can't even measure the
> resolution.
>
> > Replace monitor lead.
>
> Works on his laptop.
>
> > Could be the motherboard is shorting out against the case (one too many
> > stand-offs for the number of aligned holes?)
>
> Will check for that if we have to disassemble, (eg the graphics theory
> turns out to be
> wrong).
>
> > Generally take it apart and try again - checking motherboard positioning
> > carefully, only connecting cpu, one stick of ram and pgs card to see if
> you
> > can get it to POST. If not, the fun game of switching components until
> you
> > see life begins...
>
> Ditto above.
>
> With 1-4 sticks we get no beeps.  With no sticks we get three beeps, so I
> think it *is*
> booting; we just can't see it.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 23:35:01 BST Simon Avery wrote:
> Obvious stuff; Ensure any additional power leads are connected (molex 4, or
> 6 or even 8-way leads are not uncommon and need plugging in too)

That's the bit I'm not sure about.  My son's PSU came with standard power leads 
designated 'VGA' each of which had a four-pin connector at the remote end.  
Unfortunately, the graphics card doesn't have that kind of connector, but it 
does have 
multi-way 'fingers' to take an edge connector of some kind.  I have no idea 
what those 
pins are for.

> Google for card compatibility with the motherboard.

Unfortunately, we get very few hits and none that mention compatibility either 
way.

> Not seated properly, or in an incompatible slot.

AFAIK this is not an issue.  The board clicks home OK and the card and the slot 
are both 
PCIe 16.  However, the card is PCIe V2.0 and the recommended slot on the 
motherboard is 
V3.0.  This is stated to be OK on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
PCI_Express#PCI_Express_3.0[1] ), unless I've misinterpreted the words.

> Could easily be bad mobo instead of graphics card, or the memory is
> incompatible/not seated preventing POST.

Hopefully the motherboard is OK; time will tell I guess, once we've tried it 
with the target 
graphics card we'll know more.  Tim has offered the loan of a more modern card, 
so that 
may help to eliminate the card.

> PSU doesn't have enough power?

It's a whacking great gaming PSU; an EVGA SuperNova P2 which provides 850 W.

> Ensure monitor is compatible. (Most modern stuff will tell you if it's
> outside supported resolutions)

The message from the monitor is 'No Signal' so it can't even measure the 
resolution.
 
> Replace monitor lead.

Works on his laptop.

> Could be the motherboard is shorting out against the case (one too many
> stand-offs for the number of aligned holes?)

Will check for that if we have to disassemble, (eg the graphics theory turns 
out to be 
wrong).
 
> Generally take it apart and try again - checking motherboard positioning
> carefully, only connecting cpu, one stick of ram and pgs card to see if you
> can get it to POST. If not, the fun game of switching components until you
> see life begins...

Ditto above.

With 1-4 sticks we get no beeps.  With no sticks we get three beeps, so I think 
it *is* 
booting; we just can't see it.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Simon Avery]

Obvious stuff; Ensure any additional power leads are connected (molex 4, or
6 or even 8-way leads are not uncommon and need plugging in too)

Google for card compatibility with the motherboard.

Not seated properly, or in an incompatible slot.

Could easily be bad mobo instead of graphics card, or the memory is
incompatible/not seated preventing POST.

PSU doesn't have enough power?

Ensure monitor is compatible. (Most modern stuff will tell you if it's
outside supported resolutions)

Replace monitor lead.

Could be the motherboard is shorting out against the case (one too many
stand-offs for the number of aligned holes?)

Generally take it apart and try again - checking motherboard positioning
carefully, only connecting cpu, one stick of ram and pgs card to see if you
can get it to POST. If not, the fun game of switching components until you
see life begins...




On 12 July 2016 at 17:38, Terry Coles  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My son has built himself a gaming computer (at great expense), but at the
> moment the
> Monitor displays 'No signal' when we try to boot it up.  We aren't getting
> any beeps from
> the BIOS, so I think that most things at least are working properly.
>
> The motherboard has no diagnostic alpha-numeric  display, so information
> is a bit limited.
> We tried taking out the RAM and got several beeps, so we know that booting
> is
> commencing; we just can't see it.
>
> At this point he's got nothing installed on the machine, he just needs to
> get a display so
> that he can view the BIOS and the screen messages during installation of
> the OS.
>
> We've currently exhausted all the ideas on the MSI forums (he has a X99A
> Raider
> motherboard), apart from one; incompatibility of the graphics card, which
> apparently
> some people have experienced.
>
> The card that he has on order is awaiting shipping, so I lent him a Zotac
> (NVidia) GeForce
> 9500GT (http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/geforce_9500gt_uk.html[1]
> ).  This is an old device (circa 2008) and I no longer have the User
> Manual, so it is also
> possible that we need an additional power supply for it, to connect to an
> edge connector
> at the top.  I bought and installed this in my old machine at least 5-6
> years ago, and simply
> can't remember.
>
> Has anyone got any other ideas?
>
> Alternatively, has anyone got a spare graphics card that we could borrow.
> Unfortunately,
> this motherboard has no onboard graphics.
>
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>
> 
> [1] http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/geforce_9500gt_uk.html
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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 18:36:19 BST Tim wrote:
> I am in now till approximately 7:30 then out and back in around
> 8:45-ish. The card is a Asus Nvidia GT730, I also have a box of VGA to
> DVI adapters if you want one of those as well.

I won't have time to come over this evening; could I visit tomorrow?

> Just tried to reply to you direct Terry (due to inclusion of my address)
> rather than on list and the email bounced back to me??

That's strange, I always have the same problem with your xendistar address ;-(

Try c...@hadrian-way.co.uk.  I've just tested it and it works.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Tim]

On 12/07/16 18:13, Terry Coles wrote:

On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 17:49:45 BST Tim wrote:

On 12/07/16 17:38, Terry Coles wrote:

Alternatively, has anyone got a spare graphics card that we could borrow.
Unfortunately, this motherboard has no onboard graphics.

I am going to assume that the graphics card has both DVI & HDMI outputs?
Have you tried both, have you tried other DVI & HDMI leads?

The lead is a VGA to VGA which works with his laptop.  The Zotac only has two
DVI O/Ps, one of which is connected to the VGA lead using an adaptor.  The
adaptor certainly worked the last time I used it, but I can test it again on
my Optiplex.


I have a couple of graphics card that are low power basic type if you
want to have a test (I am in Kinson)

I'd appreciate a loan, when would be convenient to come over?  (Assuming that
I don't discover that the DVI to VGA adaptor is not working.)

I am in now till approximately 7:30 then out and back in around 
8:45-ish. The card is a Asus Nvidia GT730, I also have a box of VGA to 
DVI adapters if you want one of those as well.


Just tried to reply to you direct Terry (due to inclusion of my address) 
rather than on list and the email bounced back to me??


Regards

Tim


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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 17:49:45 BST Tim wrote:
> On 12/07/16 17:38, Terry Coles wrote:
> > Alternatively, has anyone got a spare graphics card that we could borrow. 
> > Unfortunately, this motherboard has no onboard graphics.
> 
> I am going to assume that the graphics card has both DVI & HDMI outputs?
> Have you tried both, have you tried other DVI & HDMI leads?

The lead is a VGA to VGA which works with his laptop.  The Zotac only has two 
DVI O/Ps, one of which is connected to the VGA lead using an adaptor.  The 
adaptor certainly worked the last time I used it, but I can test it again on 
my Optiplex.

> I have a couple of graphics card that are low power basic type if you
> want to have a test (I am in Kinson)

I'd appreciate a loan, when would be convenient to come over?  (Assuming that 
I don't discover that the DVI to VGA adaptor is not working.)

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Re: [Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Tim]

On 12/07/16 17:38, Terry Coles wrote:

Hi,

My son has built himself a gaming computer (at great expense), but at the 
moment the
Monitor displays 'No signal' when we try to boot it up.  We aren't getting any 
beeps from
the BIOS, so I think that most things at least are working properly.

The motherboard has no diagnostic alpha-numeric  display, so information is a 
bit limited.
We tried taking out the RAM and got several beeps, so we know that booting is
commencing; we just can't see it.

At this point he's got nothing installed on the machine, he just needs to get a 
display so
that he can view the BIOS and the screen messages during installation of the OS.

We've currently exhausted all the ideas on the MSI forums (he has a X99A Raider
motherboard), apart from one; incompatibility of the graphics card, which 
apparently
some people have experienced.

The card that he has on order is awaiting shipping, so I lent him a Zotac 
(NVidia) GeForce
9500GT (http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/geforce_9500gt_uk.html[1]
).  This is an old device (circa 2008) and I no longer have the User Manual, so 
it is also
possible that we need an additional power supply for it, to connect to an edge 
connector
at the top.  I bought and installed this in my old machine at least 5-6 years 
ago, and simply
can't remember.

Has anyone got any other ideas?

Alternatively, has anyone got a spare graphics card that we could borrow.  
Unfortunately,
this motherboard has no onboard graphics.

I am going to assume that the graphics card has both DVI & HDMI outputs? 
Have you tried both, have you tried other DVI & HDMI leads?


I have a couple of graphics card that are low power basic type if you 
want to have a test (I am in Kinson)


Regards

Tim


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[Dorset] OT: No Signal from Graphics Card on Newly Built PC

[Terry Coles]

Hi,

My son has built himself a gaming computer (at great expense), but at the 
moment the 
Monitor displays 'No signal' when we try to boot it up.  We aren't getting any 
beeps from 
the BIOS, so I think that most things at least are working properly.

The motherboard has no diagnostic alpha-numeric  display, so information is a 
bit limited.  
We tried taking out the RAM and got several beeps, so we know that booting is 
commencing; we just can't see it.

At this point he's got nothing installed on the machine, he just needs to get a 
display so 
that he can view the BIOS and the screen messages during installation of the OS.

We've currently exhausted all the ideas on the MSI forums (he has a X99A Raider 
motherboard), apart from one; incompatibility of the graphics card, which 
apparently 
some people have experienced.

The card that he has on order is awaiting shipping, so I lent him a Zotac 
(NVidia) GeForce 
9500GT (http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/geforce_9500gt_uk.html[1] 
).  This is an old device (circa 2008) and I no longer have the User Manual, so 
it is also 
possible that we need an additional power supply for it, to connect to an edge 
connector 
at the top.  I bought and installed this in my old machine at least 5-6 years 
ago, and simply 
can't remember.

Has anyone got any other ideas?

Alternatively, has anyone got a spare graphics card that we could borrow.  
Unfortunately, 
this motherboard has no onboard graphics.

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