Re: [Dorset] android tablets
Hi Peter, > I have a kodak photoframe that is dying, but it has a USB socket for > USB memory sticks. Has anybody ever tried to connect to them and see > what is inside software-wise? Your best bet is to Google for something like "hack kodak photoframe" and include the model number if you can find one. It may be possible using just the USB port, depending on the bootloader, but it may need opening up. Sometimes there are UART pads on the circuit board that give boot messages or console access. It's a bit of a rabbit hole, normally, only if you've plenty of time to space and need a puzling hobby. :-) Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-01-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] android tablets
On 05/01/14 17:55, Neil Stone wrote: On 12/26/13 18:38, Nicky Scopes wrote: Hello, can anyone tell me why so many different tablets on sale are using android, an operating system that's essentially Linux underneath. why don't these companies create their own modified version of Linux and call it whatever they want, why does it have to be android. I'm not against android I have one myself. Q: Is it broken? A: No Then don't fix it... That's ok for the general public, but most of the people on here are the kind of people who want to delve into the guts of things and improve them, or at least understand how they work. I have a kodak photoframe that is dying, but it has a USB socket for USB memory sticks. Has anybody ever tried to connect to them and see what is inside software-wise? Peter -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-01-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] android tablets
On 12/26/13 18:38, Nicky Scopes wrote: > Hello, can anyone tell me why so many different tablets on sale are using > android, an operating system that's essentially Linux underneath. why don't > these companies create their own modified version of Linux and call it > whatever they want, why does it have to be android. > I'm not against android I have one myself. > Q: Is it broken? A: No Then don't fix it... -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-01-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] android tablets
On 02/01/14 20:31, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: http://jolla.com/ Nokia created Maemo, a Linux for phones based on Debian and shipped it on some devices. Intel were working on Moblin (Fedora based), for small computing appliances. The two were combined to create MeeGo, although Intel later quit the project. When Nokia dropped this after signing up with MS, they open sourced most of it. It was picked up by Jolla to create Sailfish OS, now shipping. http://www.jollausers.com/2014/01/jolla-outsells-iphone-5s-and-5c-in-finland/ A rather timely item from the front page of Hacker News. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-01-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] android tablets
On 26/12/13 19:02, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Well, more labour for them, mainly. And that takes time during which competitors are shipping multiple products as hardware continues to improve. And the end result of their own non-Android OS would be a reduced ecosystem for customers, e.g. no access to a big established pool of apps that could run. See http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/ for an example of what you're suggesting except it's not done by a hardware manufacturer. "Many men have tried.. ." "Did they try and fail?" "They tried and died..." In the Linux-based mobile OS arena there are also:- http://jolla.com/ Nokia created Maemo, a Linux for phones based on Debian and shipped it on some devices. Intel were working on Moblin (Fedora based), for small computing appliances. The two were combined to create MeeGo, although Intel later quit the project. When Nokia dropped this after signing up with MS, they open sourced most of it. It was picked up by Jolla to create Sailfish OS, now shipping. http://www.openwebosproject.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebOS Thismore likely to end up on smart TV's and the like, although it was originally created by Palm for phones. For a long time it was called Access Linux Project (ALP), and was finally released as WebOS. The few people who had the phones that I met loved the OS, but it was let down by slightly below par hardware and a lack of apps. Palm went bust and were bought by HP who had no real idea what to do with any of it. They sold the OS to LG. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page This was released on a few phones a few years back, but I believe it's now dead. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet Canonical's efforts. I don't think they've reached commercially produced hardware yet but I might be wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen LiMO (Linux Mobile) was created in 2007 to unite various efforts by manufacturers to develop Linux-based systems for phones. It was renamed to Tizen a couple of years back. It's mostly driven by Samsung, I believe. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-01-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] android tablets
Hi Nicky, > can anyone tell me why so many different tablets on sale are using > android, an operating system that's essentially Linux underneath. It's only the Linux kernel underneath. The userspace is all completely different AIUI. > why don't these companies create their own modified version of Linux > and call it whatever they want, why does it have to be android. Well, more labour for them, mainly. And that takes time during which competitors are shipping multiple products as hardware continues to improve. And the end result of their own non-Android OS would be a reduced ecosystem for customers, e.g. no access to a big established pool of apps that could run. See http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/ for an example of what you're suggesting except it's not done by a hardware manufacturer. It's now shipping on hardware, http://www.ebay.co.uk/ctg/ZTE-Open-Orange-Unlocked-Smartphone-/143747595 Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-01-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
[Dorset] android tablets
Hello, can anyone tell me why so many different tablets on sale are using android, an operating system that's essentially Linux underneath. why don't these companies create their own modified version of Linux and call it whatever they want, why does it have to be android. I'm not against android I have one myself. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-01-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
