Re: [Dorset] Scanning did work and half-hour later didn't? - resolved

2022-01-16 Thread JD

Thanks Terry, Peter, & Tim.

I really hadn't thought of a network device having a web page.  My 
printer certainly does have a few and that gave me a lot of confidence.  
It was much better than peering at the LED window on the printer armed 
with a torch and magnifying glass!


I confirmed that I had set up the printer with a fixed IP address, but 
then realised I had not done the same on the router.  But even after 
fixing that the router's web page(!) showed the printer as an attached 
device only sporadically.


I ran the .deb file again and this time removed the driver, and then 
re-installed it.  Now it ... was different - no device found. Actually, 
I felt better about that rather than "Invalid argument".


At that point I had THE obvious thought - is there a new driver?  Lo and 
behold, on the Brother website is a packaged set of drivers for printer, 
CUPS, and scanner - dated 21/8/2021!


After installing the new drivers for the 2nd time (this time following 
the instructions) it all worked.


I did like to read that other people come across the situation that it 
can't have ever worked, even though it did earlier.


My own thought on that is that there were some Ubuntu updates happening 
after the first successful scan that changed something in the 
libraries.  I authorise almost all suggested updates without really 
registering it.  I've looked in /var/log/apt/history.log and found 
libsystemd0, linux-libc-dev, and libgs9 listed at about the right time.


Having done some scanning now I can warn of a problem with xsane that 
seems to be well-known but unresolved.  At high resolutions (e.g. 4800 
dpi) you get "Out of memory" errors.  My best guess is that this refers 
to the scanner and just needs a better message.


Thanks,
John

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Today's Topics:

1. Scanning did work and half-hour later didn't? (JD)
2. Re: Scanning did work and half-hour later didn't? (Terry Coles)
3. Re: Scanning did work and half-hour later didn't? (PeterMerchant)
4. Re: Scanning did work and half-hour later didn't? (Tim)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 15:24:31 +
From: JD 
To: dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [Dorset] Scanning did work and half-hour later didn't?
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I have a Brother laser printer - DCP1612W.? Yesterday I scanned a couple
of photos and saved them as jpg's.? About a half-hour later I got only
an error message each time I ran xsane, and that is still the case.?
Printing continues to work as normal.

Details:
Ubuntu 20.04.3
The error message is: "Failed to open device 'brother4:net;dev0':
Invalid argument."

It's configured to connect via WLAN.? The IP address appears in the
router list occasionally but usually not.

After: scanimage -L
I get "device `brother4:net1;dev0' is a Brother *DCP1610W DCP1612W", so
the correct model is known about.

In /etc/sane.d/dll.conf I've put in "192.168.0.1/24" but I can't restart
saned: "saned.service is masked."

When I run the Brother file "brscan4-0.4.10-1.amd64.deb" I find it is
already installed, of course.

On the internet I found reference to the file:
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html;, this contains? 2
supported Brothers but not mine.

In desperation I pressed the SCAN button on the printer, but no
miracles, just "Check connection".

What did I do in the fateful 30 mins yesterday afternoon!?

Regards,
John





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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 15:38:29 +
From: Terry Coles 
To: dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Dorset] Scanning did work and half-hour later didn't?
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John,

One or two thoughts which may or may not be helpful.

On Friday, 14 January 2022 15:24:31 GMT JD wrote:

I have a Brother laser printer - DCP1612W.  Yesterday I scanned a couple
of photos and saved them as jpg's.  About a half-hour later I got only
an error message each time I ran xsane, and that is still the case.
Printing continues to work as normal.

Caveat:  I've never used any kind of Brother Device; I've always bought HP.


Details:
Ubuntu 20.04.3
The error message is: "Failed to open device 'brother4:net;dev0':
Inva

Re: [Dorset] Scanning did work and half-hour later didn't?

2022-01-14 Thread Tim
Most modern network capable printers have a web interface these days, 
just find the IP address, stick that into a browser and you should get a 
status page, you should also be able to get to a configuration pages for 
the device. Like Terry and Peter I always assign static IP 's I learnt 
long ago after a session of hunt the device across a lan.


Many years ago support company spent an entire day trying to connect a 
HP Inkjet printer to a Unix system including a multiplexer. Eventually 
the boss came and tried and realised that the inkjet would never work as 
it was a Winprinter (where half the firmware was delivered as windows 
software drivers). It will never work the boss shouted in frustration of 
the wasted day, he he had no answer as to why when it was first setup 
earlier in the day it printed a test page and two work related pages, 
then just stopped.


Regards

Tim H

On 14/01/2022 16:58, PeterMerchant wrote:
Can't help with the scanning, but I have a brother wireless printer 
HL-1210W series  and like Terry have it programmed to a fixed IP 
address, and never have any trouble with it.


The manual refers to saving the scanned item to a folder, but is this 
folder in a storage medium in the scanner or on your computer? As 
Terry suggests, can you browse to the printers web page and find any 
'stored' scans?



Peter

On 14/01/2022 15:38, Terry Coles wrote:

John,

One or two thoughts which may or may not be helpful.

On Friday, 14 January 2022 15:24:31 GMT JD wrote:
I have a Brother laser printer - DCP1612W.  Yesterday I scanned a 
couple

of photos and saved them as jpg's.  About a half-hour later I got only
an error message each time I ran xsane, and that is still the case.
Printing continues to work as normal.
Caveat:  I've never used any kind of Brother Device; I've always 
bought HP.



Details:
Ubuntu 20.04.3
The error message is: "Failed to open device 'brother4:net;dev0':
Invalid argument."

No thoughts on this.

It's configured to connect via WLAN. The IP address appears in the
router list occasionally but usually not.
For various reasons, I've always configured utility devices on my 
home network
with a static IP Address.  On my HP, I can then browse to it's Home 
Page to

check its status.  Does you Brother have a web page?


After: scanimage -L
I get "device `brother4:net1;dev0' is a Brother *DCP1610W DCP1612W", so
the correct model is known about.

What did I do in the fateful 30 mins yesterday afternoon!?

I have no idea really, but since it is not always visible in your Router
settings, I would suspect that the WiFi connection isn't all it could 
be.







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Re: [Dorset] Scanning did work and half-hour later didn't?

2022-01-14 Thread PeterMerchant

Can't help with the scanning, but I have a brother wireless printer HL-1210W 
series  and like Terry have it programmed to a fixed IP address, and never have 
any trouble with it.

The manual refers to saving the scanned item to a folder, but is this folder in 
a storage medium in the scanner or on your computer? As Terry suggests, can you 
browse to the printers web page and find any 'stored' scans?


Peter

On 14/01/2022 15:38, Terry Coles wrote:

John,

One or two thoughts which may or may not be helpful.

On Friday, 14 January 2022 15:24:31 GMT JD wrote:

I have a Brother laser printer - DCP1612W.  Yesterday I scanned a couple
of photos and saved them as jpg's.  About a half-hour later I got only
an error message each time I ran xsane, and that is still the case.
Printing continues to work as normal.

Caveat:  I've never used any kind of Brother Device; I've always bought HP.


Details:
Ubuntu 20.04.3
The error message is: "Failed to open device 'brother4:net;dev0':
Invalid argument."

No thoughts on this.
  

It's configured to connect via WLAN.  The IP address appears in the
router list occasionally but usually not.

For various reasons, I've always configured utility devices on my home network
with a static IP Address.  On my HP, I can then browse to it's Home Page to
check its status.  Does you Brother have a web page?


After: scanimage -L
I get "device `brother4:net1;dev0' is a Brother *DCP1610W DCP1612W", so
the correct model is known about.

What did I do in the fateful 30 mins yesterday afternoon!?

I have no idea really, but since it is not always visible in your Router
settings, I would suspect that the WiFi connection isn't all it could be.




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Re: [Dorset] Scanning did work and half-hour later didn't?

2022-01-14 Thread Terry Coles
John,

One or two thoughts which may or may not be helpful.

On Friday, 14 January 2022 15:24:31 GMT JD wrote:
> I have a Brother laser printer - DCP1612W.  Yesterday I scanned a couple
> of photos and saved them as jpg's.  About a half-hour later I got only
> an error message each time I ran xsane, and that is still the case. 
> Printing continues to work as normal.

Caveat:  I've never used any kind of Brother Device; I've always bought HP.

> Details:
> Ubuntu 20.04.3
> The error message is: "Failed to open device 'brother4:net;dev0':
> Invalid argument."

No thoughts on this.
 
> It's configured to connect via WLAN.  The IP address appears in the
> router list occasionally but usually not.

For various reasons, I've always configured utility devices on my home network 
with a static IP Address.  On my HP, I can then browse to it's Home Page to 
check its status.  Does you Brother have a web page?

> After: scanimage -L
> I get "device `brother4:net1;dev0' is a Brother *DCP1610W DCP1612W", so
> the correct model is known about.

What did I do in the fateful 30 mins yesterday afternoon!?

I have no idea really, but since it is not always visible in your Router 
settings, I would suspect that the WiFi connection isn't all it could be.

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