Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Ruben Safir
On 12/1/18 10:13 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > Email should be intitive intuitive -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 03:58:53AM +0100, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > On 02/12/2018 03:05, Michael A. Peters wrote: > [...] > > But - I would wager that over 95% of the time when someone hits the > > reply button on a list post, their intent is to reply to the list. > > Even if it's 99%: What is

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On 02/12/2018 03:05, Michael A. Peters wrote: [...] > But - I would wager that over 95% of the time when someone hits the > reply button on a list post, their intent is to reply to the list. Even if it's 99%: What is the lesser risk if someone get's it wrong? Apart from the situation that people

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On 02/12/2018 01:09, Noel Butler wrote: [...] > all should go to list. Its also dumb when list admins dont set reply-to It's quite the opposite. > list, the entire point of relying to a list, is, well, to the list) Sorry, but that tells us more more about the audience of such lists than you

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Michael A. Peters: > I would wager that over 95% of the time when someone hits the reply > button on a list post, their intent is to reply to the list. You'd lose that wager. This list, like many others, has a "List-Post" header embedded in every single message posted. People need to use smart

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Michael A. Peters
On 12/01/2018 05:49 PM, Ralph Seichter wrote: * Michael A. Peters: Netiquette posts are just someone's opinion, and they often don't take into account the vastly different way different types of minds work. Mailing list netiquette has been around for decades, for good reasons. If Joe User's

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Michael A. Peters: > Netiquette posts are just someone's opinion, and they often don't take > into account the vastly different way different types of minds work. Mailing list netiquette has been around for decades, for good reasons. If Joe User's mind "works differently", Joe needs to make

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Michael A. Peters
On 12/01/2018 05:00 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: There's an extensive email etiquette post somewhere on the net explaining why setting 'reply-to' to the list is a bad idea. Reply-to is intended for the sender to explain that replies shouldn't be sent to the obvious sending address, but to another

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 10:09:02AM +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > On 02/12/2018 05:31, M. Balridge wrote: > > > Quoting dovecot-...@deemzed.uk: > > > >> Not to stir the pot, but I notice my email address has recently been > >> harvested from this list for spamming purposes. This email address is >

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Michael A. Peters
On 12/01/2018 04:22 PM, Noel Butler wrote: On 02/12/2018 10:16, Michael A. Peters wrote: On 12/01/2018 04:09 PM, Noel Butler wrote: Which is why it annoys me that some people on mailing lists feel the need to reply directly, rather than through mailing list. Sometimes it is the MUA that 

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Noel Butler
On 02/12/2018 10:16, Michael A. Peters wrote: > On 12/01/2018 04:09 PM, Noel Butler wrote: > >> Which is why it annoys me that some people on mailing lists feel the need to >> reply directly, rather than through mailing list. > > Sometimes it is the MUA that is poorly designed that causes

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Michael A. Peters
On 12/01/2018 04:09 PM, Noel Butler wrote: Which is why it annoys me that some people on mailing lists feel the need to reply directly, rather than through mailing list. Sometimes it is the MUA that is poorly designed that causes this. Also, some lists set the "reply to" with the sender

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Noel Butler
On 02/12/2018 05:31, M. Balridge wrote: > Quoting dovecot-...@deemzed.uk: > >> Not to stir the pot, but I notice my email address has recently been >> harvested from this list for spamming purposes. This email address is >> unique and not used for anything else. >> >> I'd distinguish this from

Re: I never touched nuthin'

2018-12-01 Thread mick crane
On 2018-12-01 14:35, Aki Tuomi wrote: On 01 December 2018 at 12:09 mick crane wrote: hello, do you mind if I ask before I start poking about ? suddenly I notice that gmail is ignoring or because there is an error getmail is not sending the delete request. Mails are sent and received but not

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread M. Balridge
Quoting dovecot-...@deemzed.uk: > Not to stir the pot, but I notice my email address has recently been > harvested from this list for spamming purposes. This email address is > unique and not used for anything else. > > I'd distinguish this from spam sent to the mailing list itself, which is >

Re: Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread Luke Lane
switch(concern_for) { case others_in_list: return "cool, no idea"; break; case yourself: return "filter from field to dovecot list address"; break; default: return "Wait for the reply of others..."; } On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 12:39 PM wrote: > >

Mailing list address harvested for spamming

2018-12-01 Thread dovecot-e51
Not to stir the pot, but I notice my email address has recently been harvested from this list for spamming purposes. This email address is unique and not used for anything else. I'd distinguish this from spam sent to the mailing list itself, which is obviously different. Is there anything

Re: I never touched nuthin'

2018-12-01 Thread Aki Tuomi
> On 01 December 2018 at 12:09 mick crane wrote: > > > hello, > do you mind if I ask before I start poking about ? > suddenly I notice that gmail is ignoring or because there is an error > getmail is not sending the delete request. > Mails are sent and received but not deleted gmail so I

Re: How to unsubscribe

2018-12-01 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 1 Dec 2018, at 12.37, Keith Edmunds wrote: > >> I am very sorry that I had to enable the delivery for people who had >> intentionally disabled delivery, but I didn't want to spend days >> figuring out the best possible way to fix the situation and in the end >> it's not a horrible bother to

Re: How to unsubscribe

2018-12-01 Thread Keith Edmunds
> I am very sorry that I had to enable the delivery for people who had > intentionally disabled delivery, but I didn't want to spend days > figuring out the best possible way to fix the situation and in the end > it's not a horrible bother to disable yourself again I have disabled mail delivery

I never touched nuthin'

2018-12-01 Thread mick crane
hello, do you mind if I ask before I start poking about ? suddenly I notice that gmail is ignoring or because there is an error getmail is not sending the delete request. Mails are sent and received but not deleted gmail so I keep getting them. mick@rapunzel:~/.getmail$ getmail --rcfile