[Dovecot] Better flagging of errors on logs?

2007-10-09 Thread Francisco Reyes
Last night dovecot died because of time changed backward. I noticed that the line from dovecot read Oct 9 01:00:44 mailstore16 dovecot: Time just moved backwards by 132 seconds. This might cause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself now. Shouldn't such lines have the word "Error" or "Fa

Re: [Dovecot] Getting rid of the common newbie problems

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Timo Sirainen writes: But are you saying that Dovecot should log errors also with "info" level by default? No. Looks like Dovecot currently uses "info" for info/debug messages, "err" for errors and "crit" for fatals/panics. That is good. So I guess, just make syslog the default and write

Re: [Dovecot] Getting rid of the common newbie problems

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Timo Sirainen writes: Is there a need to have both? I was thinking about just splitting the current dovecot-example.conf to example/*.conf or something I think this may be somewhat a matter of preference, but I would find it easier to have a "simple" file.. and a complete file. I would find i

Re: [Dovecot] Replication plans

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Timo Sirainen writes: Why not go with a pure log replication scheme? this way you basically have 3 processes. 1- The normal, currently existing programs. Add logs to the process 2- A Master replication process which listens for clients requesting for info. 3- The slave processes that request i

Re: [Dovecot] Getting rid of the common newbie problems

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Timo Sirainen writes: # dovecot Error: POP3 enabled but pop3_uidl_format not set And don't let Dovecot come up?

Re: [Dovecot] Getting rid of the common newbie problems

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Charles Marcus writes: Maybe the answer is to have two .conf files - one, the example, that contains the comments as it is now, and the other, the basic config file, with bare minimum comments. I think one single file with basic defaults uncommented is best. As someone else mentioned, anyone

Re: [Dovecot] Getting rid of the common newbie problems

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Timo Sirainen writes: "Set pop3_uidl_format setting in config file" "pop3_uidl_format setting is missing from config file" "Set pop3_uidl_format in config file" How about: You have choosen to run POP3. The setting pop3_uidl_format needs to be set in the dovecot.conf file for the POP3 server t

Re: [Dovecot] Getting rid of the common newbie problems

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Joseba Torre writes: there's no easy way to get rid of newbie problems: right now dovecot is quite a complex software I tried Cyrus once, and have been working with Courier for nearly 2 years before I tried Dovecot. In my opinion Dovecot is much simpler than Cyrus, but perhaps more complex t

Re: [Dovecot] Replication plans

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Timo Sirainen writes: Master keeps all the changes in memory until slave has replied that it has committed the changes. If the memory buffer gets too large (1MB?) Does this mean that in case of a crash all that would be lost? I think the cache should be smaller. because the slave is handli

Re: [Dovecot] Getting rid of the common newbie problems

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Timo Sirainen writes: actually giving useful error messages. Often the admin is only looking at the log file where "info" messages go (eg mail.log) because Dovecot logs its startup message and login messages there, but not where the errors go (eg mail.err). This has happened even with people wh

Re: [Dovecot] Replication plans

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Timo Sirainen writes: Then there are also people who would want to run Dovecot on their laptop and have it synchronize with the main server whenever network connection is available. YES! I had not thought of that, but that would be killer.. although that would be multi-master which I think w

Re: [Dovecot] Getting rid of the common newbie problems

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Timo Sirainen writes: 1) Split the config files, so the less used settings are separate files I think that would be good. Specially if you could have a tool chain that would produce both files from one source. 2) Remove some of the settings completely from dovecot-example.conf, although th

Re: [Dovecot] Replication plans

2007-05-21 Thread Francisco Reyes
Troy Benjegerdes writes: But that's currently not *really* replicated. The real question I guess is why not use a cluster/distributed/san filesystem like AFS, GFS, Because those distribute filesystems may be more difficult to setup, more difficult to maintain and may be less portable than a d

Re: [Dovecot] Any plans for storing messages on a database?

2007-05-03 Thread Francisco Reyes
Troy Benjegerdes writes: I think you should at least try Coda, but don't spend too much time on it. It is mostly a research project. I don't know of anyone really using it in production use. Hmmm. Didn't know that. I knew it was a research project, but did not know it was not much in producti

Re: [Dovecot] Any plans for storing messages on a database?

2007-05-02 Thread Francisco Reyes
Troy Benjegerdes writes: http://www.openafs.org/pipermail/port-freebsd/2007-February/000199.html The freebsd port looks like it might be a bit hairy yet though. AFS and CODA are on my list to check. Another user in this list mentioned Gluster. I must say gluster looks very interesting.

Re: [Dovecot] Any plans for storing messages on a database?

2007-05-02 Thread Francisco Reyes
John Rowe writes: gluster is looking extremely interesting although it's rather new. Thanks. Saw it on a list of distributed FS but didn't click on it. I was planning to take a look at AFS and Coda to start. Will also take a look at gluster, although so far it seems a Linux only FS.

Re: [Dovecot] Any plans for storing messages on a database?

2007-05-02 Thread Francisco Reyes
Scott Silva writes: If you want to experiment with a inexpensive NAS with replication, look at Freenas. It can do nfs sharing and automatic replication with rsync. And it is free and based on Freebsd. Still immature, but it has a lot of promise. Our experience with FreeBSD+NFS has been less t

Re: [Dovecot] 200 pop3-login processes

2007-05-02 Thread Francisco Reyes
Zbigniew Szalbot writes: I am using dovecot 1.0.0 and have only 5 pop3 users. However, I have counted over 200 pop3-loging processes. I just wonder if it is normal for dovecot (has been running maybe for 2-3 weeks after installing the stable verion). What is your login_processes_count in dovec

Re: [Dovecot] v1.1 plans

2007-04-28 Thread Francisco Reyes
Justin McAleer writes: On top of the performance gains, gathering disk usage for billing changes from parsing hundreds of thousands of maildirsize files (and du -s or equivalent for those really large maildirs, ugh) to a single sql query, Not sure how difficult it would be, but that would be

Re: [Dovecot] Shared mailbox plans

2007-04-28 Thread Francisco Reyes
Steffen Kaiser writes: My statement is simply my point of view, that the API should be independed of the backend. LDAP, Postgresql, Mysql.. I think any of them is fine. I think anything BUT the initial setup that Timo mentioned. Files in the mailstore I think is the least scalable option.

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot and horde issues

2007-04-28 Thread Francisco Reyes
John H. Bennett III writes: I am having difficulties trying to get the current stable version of horde's imp webmail to work correctly using dovecot 1.0rc15. I am using a pre-release version of SME Server 8 which runs on top of CentOS 5. I have also tried using the 1.0 release of dovecot

[Dovecot] Any plans for storing messages on a database?

2007-04-28 Thread Francisco Reyes
Redudancy and recovering from a mailstore failure is one of the concerns I am trying to address where I work. Any plans to have Dovecot store emails in a database? NAS/SAN devices which do automatic replication to a second device are extremely expensive. I also don't see any distributed file

Re: [Dovecot] Shared mailbox plans

2007-04-22 Thread Francisco Reyes
Steffen Kaiser writes: Having ACLs in SQL allows companies to have a centralized place for all ACLs. Well, this statement is true for any backend, incl. LDAP. Correct. But many companies do not have a LDAP infrastructure. It is much easier to setup a Mysql DB and put a table for ACL than it

Re: [Dovecot] Moving Maildir files from multiple Dovecot installs

2007-04-15 Thread Francisco Reyes
Dean Manners writes: options right though. Personally I prefer to exempt the dovecot* files from the rsync, and let them be recreated fresh on the new installation. I recently asked if it was necessary to delete/not sync the dovecot files and Timo replied that they should work. If copying

Re: [Dovecot] Shared mailbox plans

2007-04-11 Thread Francisco Reyes
Timo Sirainen writes: Keeping ACLs in SQL is different from keeping the whole mailbox data in SQL. Currently the ACL plugin supports only vfile backend, but it wouldn't be too difficult to add support for SQL backend. Having ACLs in SQL allows companies to have a centralized place for all

[Dovecot] Moving maildir folders between different RC dovecot machines

2007-04-10 Thread Francisco Reyes
Is it ever necessary to delete any of the dovecot files when moving between machines from different RC versions? I read all the RC notes from RC15 to 31 and didn't see any notes about this, but wanted to be completely sure. Have some domains that I need to move from a RC15 machine to a RC29 m

Re: [Dovecot] The folder 'Inbox' cannot contain items. Namespace problems

2007-04-04 Thread Francisco Reyes
Francisco Reyes writes: I took off the Mac support and myself and two co-workers that were helping me test were about to call it a day. The co-worker testing the Mac support tried it.. and it worked. Reporting back. It has been two days since we upgraded to rc29 No reports of problems on Mac

Re: [Dovecot] logfile consistency

2007-04-03 Thread Francisco Reyes
David Jonas writes: Or perhaps similar to postfix, like dovecot/deliver[pid]: I think that one would be the best scenario.

Re: [Dovecot] The folder 'Inbox' cannot contain items. Namespace problems

2007-04-03 Thread Francisco Reyes
Timo Sirainen writes: On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 22:31 -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: Based on some TCP dumps we did we noticed that Outlook was doing LIST, but no select (except at account) creation. Could you show me the tcpdumps? Will report back today. After we upgraded to r29 and had both

Re: [Dovecot] The folder 'Inbox' cannot contain items. Namespace problems

2007-04-02 Thread Francisco Reyes
Francisco Reyes writes: Several attempts to support both Mac and PCs keep failing. In my latest attempt I used the following settings: #courier-imap compatibility/Thunderbird namespace private { separator = . prefix = INBOX. inbox = yes } For MAC OS Mail.app namespace private

[Dovecot] *****SPAM***** Upgrading from rc27 to rc29?

2007-04-02 Thread Francisco Reyes
After sending a messasge about a problem (The folder 'Inbox' cannot contain items. Namespace problems) I found what seems to be a fix in the release for rc29. Besides any potential configuration files, do I need to delete the old index files? Any of the dovecot files? Based on the release no

[Dovecot] *****SPAM***** Re: 1.0.rc29 released

2007-04-02 Thread Francisco Reyes
Kenneth Porter writes: In rc27: A few new small features and lots of index/mbox fixes. I've been heavily stress testing this release, so I think it should be about perfect. :) *Features*?! In an rc?! No wonder there's no convergence. If I were installing this for just me, I'd have no proble

[Dovecot] *****SPAM***** The folder 'Inbox' cannot contain items. Namespace problems

2007-04-02 Thread Francisco Reyes
Several attempts to support both Mac and PCs keep failing. In my latest attempt I used the following settings: #courier-imap compatibility/Thunderbird namespace private { separator = . prefix = INBOX. inbox = yes } For MAC OS Mail.app namespace private { separator = / prefix = INBOX/