Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread zbigniew szalbot
Hello, M. Fioretti pisze: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:14:31 AM -0800, Marc Perkel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Everyone has different opinions on the usefulness of SPF, but the > >reality of it is, DomainKeys solves the entire problem. SPF > >doesn't. > > I second that. I've wasted a lot of time

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:14:31 AM -0800, Marc Perkel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Everyone has different opinions on the usefulness of SPF, but the > >reality of it is, DomainKeys solves the entire problem. SPF > >doesn't. > > I second that. I've wasted a lot of time with SPF and it's useless.

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Udo Rader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt wrote: >> But as a matter of fact, I got corrected. The major problem with even >> scoring is that the only things spammers have to do (and they really do >> it!) is to register some new domain, enter valid SPF records for it and >> then their sco

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Scott Silva
on 11/28/2007 10:46 AM Matt spake the following: But as a matter of fact, I got corrected. The major problem with even scoring is that the only things spammers have to do (and they really do it!) is to register some new domain, enter valid SPF records for it and then their scoring might even impr

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Matt
> But as a matter of fact, I got corrected. The major problem with even > scoring is that the only things spammers have to do (and they really do > it!) is to register some new domain, enter valid SPF records for it and > then their scoring might even improve. DKIM and domainkeys are really no bet

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Scott Silva
on 11/28/2007 10:08 AM Udo Rader spake the following: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Romero wrote: On Nov 28, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Dean Brooks wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:06:40AM -0600, Matt wrote: Your spf record is broken: dovecot.org.39942 IN TX

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Rick Romero
On Nov 28, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Udo Rader wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Romero wrote: On Nov 28, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Dean Brooks wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:06:40AM -0600, Matt wrote: Your spf record is broken: dovecot.org.39942 IN TXT

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Marc Perkel
Dean Brooks wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:06:40AM -0600, Matt wrote: Your spf record is broken: dovecot.org.39942 IN TXT "v=spf1 a -all" Care to tell also why? dovecot.org's mails are sent from the same IP as its A record. Hmmm. I would have li

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Udo Rader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Romero wrote: > > On Nov 28, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Dean Brooks wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:06:40AM -0600, Matt wrote: > Your spf record is broken: > > dovecot.org.39942 IN TXT "v=spf1 a -all"

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Dean Brooks
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:45:29AM -0600, Rick Romero wrote: > >>One thing that bugs me is why we must now implement domainkeys on top > >>of SPF. SPF pretty much does everything domainkeys does but simpler. > > > >Because SPF is a broken hack that doesn't properly accomodate the > >forwarding of

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Rick Romero
On Nov 28, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Dean Brooks wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:06:40AM -0600, Matt wrote: Your spf record is broken: dovecot.org.39942 IN TXT "v=spf1 a -all" Care to tell also why? dovecot.org's mails are sent from the same IP as its A record. Hmmm.

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Matt
> > One thing that bugs me is why we must now implement domainkeys on top > > of SPF. SPF pretty much does everything domainkeys does but simpler. > > Because SPF is a broken hack that doesn't properly accomodate the > forwarding of email without the use of other complicating hacks > such as SRS w

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Robert Cooper
(Dean, sorry you'll see this twice...I forget that the Dovecot list, unlike every other list I'm subscribed to, does not "reply to list" by default...) Dean Brooks wrote: > Everyone has different opinions on the usefulness of SPF, but the > reality of it is, DomainKeys solves the entire problem.

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Dean Brooks
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:06:40AM -0600, Matt wrote: > > > Your spf record is broken: > > > > > > dovecot.org.39942 IN TXT "v=spf1 a -all" > > > > Care to tell also why? dovecot.org's mails are sent from the same IP as > > its A record. > > Hmmm. I would have listed mx as

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Rick Romero
On Nov 28, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Matt wrote: Your spf record is broken: dovecot.org.39942 IN TXT "v=spf1 a -all" Care to tell also why? dovecot.org's mails are sent from the same IP as its A record. Hmmm. I would have listed mx as well but thats just me. But just l

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Matt
> > Your spf record is broken: > > > > dovecot.org.39942 IN TXT "v=spf1 a -all" > > Care to tell also why? dovecot.org's mails are sent from the same IP as > its A record. Hmmm. I would have listed mx as well but thats just me. But just listing a is likely better in that t

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Scott Silva
11/28/2007 7:17 AM Jim Flowers spake the following: Your spf record is broken: dovecot.org.39942 IN TXT "v=spf1 a -all" -- Jim Flowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Checking to see if there is a valid SPF record. Found v=spf1 record for dovecot.org v=spf1 a -all evaluating...

Re: [Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 11:17 -0400, Jim Flowers wrote: > Your spf record is broken: > > dovecot.org.39942 IN TXT "v=spf1 a -all" Care to tell also why? dovecot.org's mails are sent from the same IP as its A record. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed mes

[Dovecot] spf record

2007-11-28 Thread Jim Flowers
Your spf record is broken: dovecot.org.39942 IN TXT "v=spf1 a -all" -- Jim Flowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.