Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2009-02-15 Thread agent59624285
I have this EXACT same problem after upgrading to SuSE 11.1, which uses this exact kernel version!! After reading this, I was excited to think that if I killed the nfsserver daemon (which I had running for no good reason), that it would sort my problem Sure enough, my computer - which up to

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2009-02-15 Thread Gene Steinberg
On Feb 14, 2009, at 9:57 AM, agent59624285 wrote: I have this EXACT same problem after upgrading to SuSE 11.1, which uses this exact kernel version!! After reading this, I was excited to think that if I killed the nfsserver daemon (which I had running for no good reason), that it would

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2009-02-15 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 12:10 -0700, Gene Steinberg wrote: This is sounding similar to the problem I have with my setup: 1. High CPU usage. 2. Can't kill IMAP. kill -9 doesn't work for imap processes? You didn't mention this before. I'm using CentOS 5.2 64-bit version with the latest

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2009-02-15 Thread Gene Steinberg
On Feb 15, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 12:10 -0700, Gene Steinberg wrote: This is sounding similar to the problem I have with my setup: 1. High CPU usage. 2. Can't kill IMAP. kill -9 doesn't work for imap processes? You didn't mention this before.

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2009-02-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
Timo Sirainen wrote: On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 12:10 -0700, Gene Steinberg wrote: This is sounding similar to the problem I have with my setup: 1. High CPU usage. 2. Can't kill IMAP. kill -9 doesn't work for imap processes? You didn't mention this before. I'm using CentOS 5.2 64-bit version

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2009-02-15 Thread Gene Steinberg
On Feb 15, 2009, at 12:53 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Or it's I/O locked on the filesystem i.e. NFS server went away or something else. What state ate the un-killable processes in? (Z, D, S, etc.) ~Seth I'd have to switch back to Dovecot in order to test for this, and arrange to have

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2009-02-15 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 12:48 -0700, Gene Steinberg wrote: Here's the kernel info on my box: Linux server.paracastworld.net 2.6.27.9rootserver-20081216a #1 SMP Tue Dec 16 02:29:13 EST 2008 x86_64 So that's a buggy kernel? Or is the 2.6.27.9 version better than 2.6.27 in this regard?

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2009-02-15 Thread Robert Schetterer
just again to the list wasnt in reply Robert Schetterer schrieb: Hi Gene , small tips depending suse Gene Steinberg schrieb: On Feb 14, 2009, at 9:57 AM, agent59624285 wrote: I have this EXACT same problem after upgrading to SuSE 11.1, which uses this exact kernel version!! After

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2009-02-15 Thread Gene Steinberg
On Feb 15, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: 2.6.27.9 is buggy. I'm pretty sure upgrading the kernel will fix your problem. Would this be a simple yum upgrade to deliver? I don't want to cause worse difficulties. Peace, Gene

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2009-02-15 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 13:42 -0700, Gene Steinberg wrote: On Feb 15, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: 2.6.27.9 is buggy. I'm pretty sure upgrading the kernel will fix your problem. The yum upgrade function doesn't produce any updates. Your kernel version looks like it's

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2009-02-15 Thread Gene Steinberg
It was likely compiled by the host/DC then, so it would not be a good idea to change it. Peace, Gene On Feb 15, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 13:42 -0700, Gene Steinberg wrote: On Feb 15, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: 2.6.27.9 is buggy.

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-20 Thread Arno Wald
I have running the older debian/sid dovecot 1:1.0.15-2.3 again, now with kernel 2.6.27-10.slh.1-sidux-686 and the issue seems to be fixed. So I recommend to use at least 2.6.27.10. Bye, Arno.

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-15 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Dec 15, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Arno Wald wrote: A new status report regarding this issue: Dovecot on my PC in the office is still running fine with kernel 2.6.26. Dovecot with the latest kernel 2.6.27-9.slh.1-sidux-686 on my PC at home did show the unkillable imap processes after a few

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-15 Thread Arno Wald
A new status report regarding this issue: Dovecot on my PC in the office is still running fine with kernel 2.6.26. Dovecot with the latest kernel 2.6.27-9.slh.1-sidux-686 on my PC at home did show the unkillable imap processes after a few minutes. Now I am running dovecot compiled without

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-15 Thread Arno Wald
Timo Sirainen wrote: One more thing you could try: Does the hang happen if you use configure --with-notify=dnotify ? I do not know if this is still interesting. But after notify=none did run for more than 3 hours without any problems, I am now testing dnotify since approximately 30 minutes

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-15 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 12:00 +0100, Arno Wald wrote: So where are kernel issues reported? I will try to find out. Linux kernel mailing list is probably the best place. I could also write a summary mail about this and Cc it to you all who have had the problem. signature.asc Description: This is

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-15 Thread Arno Wald
Timo Sirainen wrote: One more thing you could try: Does the hang happen if you use configure --with-notify=dnotify ? I first will keep the current version running for some hours to be more sure it really does not make problems. After this I can test it with dnotify. Thanks, Arno

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-15 Thread Arno Wald
Timo Sirainen wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 12:00 +0100, Arno Wald wrote: So where are kernel issues reported? I will try to find out. Linux kernel mailing list is probably the best place. I could also write a summary mail about this and Cc it to you all who have had the problem. I would

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-15 Thread nuitari-dovecot
So where are kernel issues reported? I will try to find out. Linux kernel mailing list is probably the best place. I could also write a summary mail about this and Cc it to you all who have had the problem. Please cc me on it, I'd rather not have to subscribe to the lkml again.

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-13 Thread Arno Wald
Timo Sirainen wrote: Or does it make more sense to try another kernel first? I guess that could also help. I started testing this with another kernel (2.6.26-6.slh.1-sidux-686). Until now (the last 15 hours) no such failing imap process did show up. So I guess it happens with 2.6.27

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-13 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 11:33 +0100, Arno Wald wrote: Timo Sirainen wrote: Or does it make more sense to try another kernel first? I guess that could also help. I started testing this with another kernel (2.6.26-6.slh.1-sidux-686). Until now (the last 15 hours) no such failing imap

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-13 Thread Cor Bosman
The other guy who also had a problem was using 2.6.27. If the 3rd guy also replies that he's using 2.6.27 then that's pretty clearly the problem. Might be worth asking about in Linux kernel mailing list. We've had something similar happen on 2.6.24. Over time processes would take more and more

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-13 Thread Arno Wald
Cor Bosman wrote: It seemed to be NFS related in our case. Is your Maildir directory mounted via NFS? I am using NFS-mounts, but not in connection with dovecot. Greetings, Arno

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-13 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On Sat, December 13, 2008 5:43 am, Timo Sirainen wrote: The other guy who also had a problem was using 2.6.27. If the 3rd guy also replies that he's using 2.6.27 then that's pretty clearly the problem. Might be worth asking about in Linux kernel mailing list. Has anyone reported this over on

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-13 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 09:23 -0500, David Rosenstrauch wrote: On Sat, December 13, 2008 5:43 am, Timo Sirainen wrote: The other guy who also had a problem was using 2.6.27. If the 3rd guy also replies that he's using 2.6.27 then that's pretty clearly the problem. Might be worth asking about

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-13 Thread Arno Wald
David Rosenstrauch wrote: Has anyone reported this over on LKML yet? Or filed a bug? I did not yet. First I would like to test my self compiled dovecot without inotify against 2.6.27. Second I do not know where and how to report kernel issues. (Also I am a little bit afraid of the whole

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-12 Thread Arno Wald
Timo Sirainen wrote: Anyway, Arno's ps output showed the process to be in R state, not in D It is definitely the R state. PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 6717 arno 20 0 2964 1608 1192 R 100 0.2 1158:05 imap btw: I have switched from imaps to

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-12 Thread Arno Wald
Timo Sirainen wrote: You could see if compiling Dovecot without inotify/dnotify support would help. I can't really think of anything else. I would like to try this and report the result. But there are so many configure-options that I do not know which options (and how) I should dis/enable.

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-12 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Dec 12, 2008, at 6:02 PM, Arno Wald wrote: Timo Sirainen wrote: You could see if compiling Dovecot without inotify/dnotify support would help. I can't really think of anything else. I would like to try this and report the result. But there are so many configure-options that I do not

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-11 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 11:36 +0100, Arno Wald wrote: I am having a problem with my dovecot-daemon. It is forking one or more (I saw up to perhaps 8 of them) imap processes under my user name. These processes are consuming a lot of CPU time and are not killable: PID USER PR NI VIRT

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-11 Thread Arno Wald
Timo Sirainen wrote: If you can't kill a process with -9, the bug is in the kernel and Do you have an idea, where and how I could report this to? (against the kernel package?). Perhaps I try an original debian kernel instead the sidux kernel first. there's nothing Dovecot can do about it. User

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-11 Thread Matthias Rieber
Hi, On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Arno Wald wrote: Timo Sirainen wrote: If you can't kill a process with -9, the bug is in the kernel and If there's is a blocked IO operation, like lost nfs mount point, processes appear unkillable. As soon as the share is back, the processes die. I've seen this

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-11 Thread Edgar Fuß
If you can't kill a process with -9, the bug is in the kernel and there's nothing Dovecot can do about it. User spaces processes can't create unkillable processes unless something's broken. It just means the process is doing an uninterruptable sleep (in BSD notation, a tsleep() without PCATCH

Re: [Dovecot] unkillable imap process(es) with high CPU-usage

2008-12-11 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 23:08 +0100, Edgar Fuß wrote: If you can't kill a process with -9, the bug is in the kernel and there's nothing Dovecot can do about it. User spaces processes can't create unkillable processes unless something's broken. It just means the process is doing an