Re: doveadm backup empties the remote host? SERIOUSLY???
On 4/27/24 16:30, Nils via dovecot wrote: I have a file backup and since that backup, new emails have been received. Also, not all of the emails were deleted - many folders weren't affected. Additionally I was able to restore a few of the deleted emails with ext4magic. So now I have three sources: 1. MAIN (new dovecot) contains the emails in the folders that weren't deleted and the emails received after the incident. 2. BACKUP (of mail directory) contains all emails from last backup date (including those still in the folders that weren't deleted). 3. RECOVER (directory) contains deleted email files that were recovered. How can I join these sources into MAIN, * without deleting any emails from MAIN (for example those that have been received today) and * with only reading and not writing into BACKUP and RECOVER? Is there any more or less convenient way to achieve that? If not, can I just dump all the files together and make dovecot recreate the indexes? ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org Will doveadm-import automatically detect if a message already exists or could I end up with duplicates? Or is it unnecessary to worry about that because of the unique filename each message has? ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
Re: doveadm backup empties the remote host? SERIOUSLY???
> On 29/04/2024 12:02 EEST Nils via dovecot wrote: > > > On 4/27/24 16:30, Nils via dovecot wrote: > > I have a file backup and since that backup, new emails have been > > received. Also, not all of the emails were deleted - many folders > > weren't affected. Additionally I was able to restore a few of the > > deleted emails with ext4magic. > > > > So now I have three sources: > > > > 1. MAIN (new dovecot) contains the emails in the folders that weren't > > deleted and the emails received after the incident. > > 2. BACKUP (of mail directory) contains all emails from last backup date > > (including those still in the folders that weren't deleted). > > 3. RECOVER (directory) contains deleted email files that were recovered. > > > > How can I join these sources into MAIN, > > > > * without deleting any emails from MAIN (for example those that have > > been received today) and > > * with only reading and not writing into BACKUP and RECOVER? > > > > Is there any more or less convenient way to achieve that? > > If not, can I just dump all the files together and make dovecot > > recreate the indexes? > > ___ > > dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org > > Will doveadm-import automatically detect if a message already exists or > could I end up with duplicates? Or is it unnecessary to worry about that > because of the unique filename each message has? doveadm import will happily import same emails over & over again. It has no such check. You should use doveadm sync -1 instead. (-1 = one way) Aki ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
Re: doveadm backup empties the remote host? SERIOUSLY???
On 4/27/24 16:30, Nils via dovecot wrote: I have a file backup and since that backup, new emails have been received. Also, not all of the emails were deleted - many folders weren't affected. Additionally I was able to restore a few of the deleted emails with ext4magic. So now I have three sources: 1. MAIN (new dovecot) contains the emails in the folders that weren't deleted and the emails received after the incident. 2. BACKUP (of mail directory) contains all emails from last backup date (including those still in the folders that weren't deleted). 3. RECOVER (directory) contains deleted email files that were recovered. How can I join these sources into MAIN, * without deleting any emails from MAIN (for example those that have been received today) and * with only reading and not writing into BACKUP and RECOVER? Is there any more or less convenient way to achieve that? If not, can I just dump all the files together and make dovecot recreate the indexes? ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org Will doveadm-import automatically detect if a message already exists or could I end up with duplicates? Or is it unnecessary to worry about that because of the unique filename each message has? ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
Re: doveadm backup empties the remote host? SERIOUSLY???
On 4/27/24 12:31, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: Yeah. Backup command, without -R backs to location, not from location. Mailman archive is athttps://www.dovecot.org/mailman3/mailman3/lists/ Aki ___ dovecot mailing list --dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email todovecot-le...@dovecot.org I have a file backup and since that backup, new emails have been received. Also, not all of the emails were deleted - many folders weren't affected. Additionally I was able to restore a few of the deleted emails with ext4magic. So now I have three sources: 1. MAIN (new dovecot) contains the emails in the folders that weren't deleted and the emails received after the incident. 2. BACKUP (of mail directory) contains all emails from last backup date (including those still in the folders that weren't deleted). 3. RECOVER (directory) contains deleted email files that were recovered. How can I join these sources into MAIN, * without deleting any emails from MAIN (for example those that have been received today) and * with only reading and not writing into BACKUP and RECOVER? Is there any more or less convenient way to achieve that? If not, can I just dump all the files together and make dovecot recreate the indexes? ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
Re: doveadm backup empties the remote host? SERIOUSLY???
On 27/04/2024 12:57 EEST Nils via dovecot wrote: On 4/26/24 14:04, Aki Tuomi wrote: We have migration guide, see https://doc.dovecot.org/admin_manual/migrating_mailboxes/ Aki regarding this guide: I am supposed to set up doveadm service on the old server and then call "doveadm backup -Ru username tcp:host:port" on the new server? So the reason that doveadm deleted everything yesterday was that I forgot the -R option? "The doveadm backup command forces the destination to look exactly like the source, deleting mails and mailboxes if necessary." Why did doveadm backup create (empty) mailboxes on the new server, when I mistakably used it in the wrong direction? - Had to switch of the email server for over 10 hours yesterday. any messages might not have reached me. is there a mailman archive? ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org Yeah. Backup command, without -R backs to location, not from location. Mailman archive is at https://www.dovecot.org/mailman3/mailman3/lists/ Aki ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
Re: doveadm backup empties the remote host? SERIOUSLY???
On 4/26/24 14:04, Aki Tuomi wrote: We have migration guide, see https://doc.dovecot.org/admin_manual/migrating_mailboxes/ Aki regarding this guide: I am supposed to set up doveadm service on the old server and then call "doveadm backup -Ru username tcp:host:port" on the new server? So the reason that doveadm deleted everything yesterday was that I forgot the -R option? "The doveadm backup command forces the destination to look exactly like the source, deleting mails and mailboxes if necessary." Why did doveadm backup create (empty) mailboxes on the new server, when I mistakably used it in the wrong direction? - Had to switch of the email server for over 10 hours yesterday. any messages might not have reached me. is there a mailman archive? ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
doveadm backup empties the remote host? SERIOUSLY???
This is the magic incantation I use: #> doveadm -o mail_fsync=never -R -u u...@foo.bar imapc: ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
RE: doveadm backup empties the remote host? SERIOUSLY???
> > Sure it's my own fault - no discussion about that, but seriously? How > dangerously unintuitive it that? > I don't really get what is going on with remote host. How is a host name even relevant other than setting up the initial connection. I don't even see it in my storage mail files. ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
Re: doveadm backup empties the remote host? SERIOUSLY???
On 26/04/2024 14:46 EEST Nils via dovecot wrote: Sure it's my own fault - no discussion about that, but seriously? How dangerously unintuitive it that? I found it when I was searching for a good practice to migrate a mail server with rsync and I mistakably assumed it works in the same direction as rsync. Luckily i have a backup from all mails except today's. Please, someone tell me what's the best procedure to migrate dovecot. ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org We have migration guide, see https://doc.dovecot.org/admin_manual/ migrating_mailboxes/ Aki ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
doveadm backup empties the remote host? SERIOUSLY???
Sure it's my own fault - no discussion about that, but seriously? How dangerously unintuitive it that? I found it when I was searching for a good practice to migrate a mail server with rsync and I mistakably assumed it works in the same direction as rsync. Luckily i have a backup from all mails except today's. Please, someone tell me what's the best procedure to migrate dovecot. ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
