Re: [Dovecot] Shutting down my Dovecot server?
Am 28.11.2012 13:12, schrieb Bjørn T Johansen: I am planning to shut down my own Dovecot server and start using the other Dovecot server I am administering together with a friend.. And I was thinking that I don't want to copy the emails I have on my server so I want to start from scratch on the other server.. But I would like to be able to look at the old emails if I need to, so was wondering if there is a way to do this without using an imap server? Can I convert my mails stored in the maildir format to mbox or is there a better way to solve my problem? why not simply dragdrop them to thunderbird or whatever MUA you are using? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Dovecot] Shutting down my Dovecot server?
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:22:22 +0100 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 28.11.2012 13:12, schrieb Bjørn T Johansen: I am planning to shut down my own Dovecot server and start using the other Dovecot server I am administering together with a friend.. And I was thinking that I don't want to copy the emails I have on my server so I want to start from scratch on the other server.. But I would like to be able to look at the old emails if I need to, so was wondering if there is a way to do this without using an imap server? Can I convert my mails stored in the maildir format to mbox or is there a better way to solve my problem? why not simply dragdrop them to thunderbird or whatever MUA you are using? Well, I am using Claws Mail but you are thinking about make my emails available in offline modus? Guess that might be one way to go but I was just trying to figure out my options as I have never done this before... :) BTJ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [Dovecot] Shutting down my Dovecot server?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: Am 28.11.2012 13:12, schrieb Bjørn T Johansen: I am planning to shut down my own Dovecot server and start using the other Dovecot server I am administering together with a friend.. And I was thinking that I don't want to copy the emails I have on my server so I want to start from scratch on the other server.. But I would like to be able to look at the old emails if I need to, so was wondering if there is a way to do this without using an imap server? Can I convert my mails stored in the maildir format to mbox or is there a better way to solve my problem? why not simply dragdrop them to thunderbird or whatever MUA you are using? Well, I am using Claws Mail but you are thinking about make my emails available in offline modus? Guess that might be one way to go but I was just trying to figure out my options as I have never done this before... :) With Thunderbird you can drop a mbox file into the Local Folders directory in the profile. Next start this mbox is displayed as mail folder. - -- Steffen Kaiser -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBULYPumoxLS8a3A9mAQIP1AgAjNIFKP21/770mqG55CJnjG/IEFKIaywj Waa94H/eu+6eZQ14Yw4pTVWEdIJxhv+56Yu0qdQo7MXer1haASirGf6z9eZPGg3C WI84qp5ma++y5E35t9LimpdE0i8ox6zu/A+fcxusFat9UHp02BWqunykmim6uHKa yVSjb+mzwOr8IQyCAM5zRi8EXWwKZzG2uo2GbrrYGEWUsbphurapgvv3oato+lmU Msd1D/iOAjkiTKq+5UWHk+21EKa1gX9Ng9rQpftLLDEveBd/EsQJLMRtLNP0Agem +6UbkQDrfcL1md531wOpNjpMhxKLQfBsNe7r9SOLUHxDp2QtsFgGkw== =GRBQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Dovecot] Shutting down my Dovecot server?
Am 28.11.2012 13:12, schrieb Bjørn T Johansen: I am planning to shut down my own Dovecot server and start using the other Dovecot server I am administering together with a friend.. And I was thinking that I don't want to copy the emails I have on my server so I want to start from scratch on the other server.. But I would like to be able to look at the old emails if I need to, so was wondering if there is a way to do this without using an imap server? Can I convert my mails stored in the maildir format to mbox or is there a better way to solve my problem? Regards, BTJ thunderbird since vers 12 has maildir format as option there are also some import and export plugins look i.e here http://jaisejames.wordpress.com/tag/maildir-for-thunderbird/ ( sorry if pop ups ,couldnt get better site quick ) Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] Shutting down my Dovecot server?
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:12:15 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen said: I am planning to shut down my own Dovecot server and start using the other Dovecot server I am administering together with a friend.. And I was thinking that I don't want to copy the emails I have on my server so I want to start from scratch on the other server.. But I would like to be able to look at the old emails if I need to, so was wondering if there is a way to do this without using an imap server? Can I convert my mails stored in the maildir format to mbox or is there a better way to solve my problem? I'm not sure why you want to convert to mbox, especially when there are multiple mbox versions. I'm also not sure why you don't want to copy emails. How else would they appear on the new server. I suppose you could use rsync to copy the data itself. You use Claws-Mail. If I were in your shoes, I'd bring up the empty Dovecot server and make a new Claws-Mail account for that empty server. Then in Claws-Mail I'd use the copy feature to copy whole folder trees to the new server. Once that's done, I'd reconfigure your original Dovecot so it can serve only on its local machine, and bang, you have your new server, with old emails you can look at. This is similar to the procedure I used to move my Kmail folders (over 100K messages) to Dovecot. http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm HTH, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ * http://twitter.com/stevelitt Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
Re: [Dovecot] Shutting down my Dovecot server?
On 28.11.2012 18:10, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:12:15 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen said: I am planning to shut down my own Dovecot server and start using the other Dovecot server I am administering together with a friend.. And I was thinking that I don't want to copy the emails I have on my server so I want to start from scratch on the other server.. But I would like to be able to look at the old emails if I need to, so was wondering if there is a way to do this without using an imap server? Can I convert my mails stored in the maildir format to mbox or is there a better way to solve my problem? I'm not sure why you want to convert to mbox, especially when there are multiple mbox versions. I'm also not sure why you don't want to copy emails. How else would they appear on the new server. I suppose you could use rsync to copy the data itself. You use Claws-Mail. If I were in your shoes, I'd bring up the empty Dovecot server and make a new Claws-Mail account for that empty server. Then in Claws-Mail I'd use the copy feature to copy whole folder trees to the new server. Once that's done, I'd reconfigure your original Dovecot so it can serve only on its local machine, and bang, you have your new server, with old emails you can look at. This is similar to the procedure I used to move my Kmail folders (over 100K messages) to Dovecot. http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm HTH, SteveT Well, I could do that... But you see, there is not much of the emails I have at the moment that I really need, I might need one now and then... So that is why I don't want to copy almost 10GB of email to the new server... But I guess that might be the most practical solution perhaps... Doesn't seem to be a better solution BTJ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [Dovecot] Shutting down my Dovecot server?
Am 28.11.2012 21:52, schrieb Bjørn T Johansen: Well, I could do that... But you see, there is not much of the emails I have at the moment that I really need, I might need one now and then... So that is why I don't want to copy almost 10GB of email to the new server... again: if you do NOT want them on the new server drag them to your local MUA - what the hell do you imagine as third option * not on the server * not on the local MUA so where do you believe they are? well, you could delete them but you said you want them archied signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Dovecot] Shutting down my Dovecot server?
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:57:19 +0100 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 28.11.2012 21:52, schrieb Bjørn T Johansen: Well, I could do that... But you see, there is not much of the emails I have at the moment that I really need, I might need one now and then... So that is why I don't want to copy almost 10GB of email to the new server... again: if you do NOT want them on the new server drag them to your local MUA - what the hell do you imagine as third option * not on the server * not on the local MUA so where do you believe they are? well, you could delete them but you said you want them archied Yes, the other solution I was looking for has to be a away to open the mail in my local MUA, just wondering if there were more than one way to do that... But thx for your suggestions... BTJ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [Dovecot] Shutting down my Dovecot server?
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:52:37 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen said: On 28.11.2012 18:10, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:12:15 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen said: I am planning to shut down my own Dovecot server and start using the other Dovecot server I am administering together with a friend.. And I was thinking that I don't want to copy the emails I have on my server so I want to start from scratch on the other server.. But I would like to be able to look at the old emails if I need to, so was wondering if there is a way to do this without using an imap server? Can I convert my mails stored in the maildir format to mbox or is there a better way to solve my problem? I'm not sure why you want to convert to mbox, especially when there are multiple mbox versions. I'm also not sure why you don't want to copy emails. How else would they appear on the new server. I suppose you could use rsync to copy the data itself. You use Claws-Mail. If I were in your shoes, I'd bring up the empty Dovecot server and make a new Claws-Mail account for that empty server. Then in Claws-Mail I'd use the copy feature to copy whole folder trees to the new server. Once that's done, I'd reconfigure your original Dovecot so it can serve only on its local machine, and bang, you have your new server, with old emails you can look at. This is similar to the procedure I used to move my Kmail folders (over 100K messages) to Dovecot. http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm HTH, SteveT Well, I could do that... But you see, there is not much of the emails I have at the moment that I really need, I might need one now and then... So that is why I don't want to copy almost 10GB of email to the new server... But I guess that might be the most practical solution perhaps... Doesn't seem to be a better solution BTJ Hi Bjørn, Here's the thought process that led me to the suggestion. All email clients suck. Right now Claws-Mail sucks the least, but that could change in a heartbeat. In my experience, a Dovecot server is a much more reliable place to *keep* email than is any client, because you can access it from *any* IMAP aware email client. A localhost-only Dovecot isn't any harder to set up than an email client, but in my experience it's a much better steward of your email. Imagine if, two years ago, you had kept such emails in Kmail, and then upgraded your Linux and been forced into Kmail2. It would have been a disaster. The other thing is, I'm not really sure what your goal is. It sounds like you want your emails on yours and your friends IMAP server, and then a copy locally. Or perhaps you wanted your old email only locally. Either of those speaks to a local Dovecot server. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ * http://twitter.com/stevelitt Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
Re: [Dovecot] Shutting down my Dovecot server?
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 19:34:57 -0500 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:52:37 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen said: On 28.11.2012 18:10, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:12:15 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen said: I am planning to shut down my own Dovecot server and start using the other Dovecot server I am administering together with a friend.. And I was thinking that I don't want to copy the emails I have on my server so I want to start from scratch on the other server.. But I would like to be able to look at the old emails if I need to, so was wondering if there is a way to do this without using an imap server? Can I convert my mails stored in the maildir format to mbox or is there a better way to solve my problem? I'm not sure why you want to convert to mbox, especially when there are multiple mbox versions. I'm also not sure why you don't want to copy emails. How else would they appear on the new server. I suppose you could use rsync to copy the data itself. You use Claws-Mail. If I were in your shoes, I'd bring up the empty Dovecot server and make a new Claws-Mail account for that empty server. Then in Claws-Mail I'd use the copy feature to copy whole folder trees to the new server. Once that's done, I'd reconfigure your original Dovecot so it can serve only on its local machine, and bang, you have your new server, with old emails you can look at. This is similar to the procedure I used to move my Kmail folders (over 100K messages) to Dovecot. http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm HTH, SteveT Well, I could do that... But you see, there is not much of the emails I have at the moment that I really need, I might need one now and then... So that is why I don't want to copy almost 10GB of email to the new server... But I guess that might be the most practical solution perhaps... Doesn't seem to be a better solution BTJ Hi Bjørn, Here's the thought process that led me to the suggestion. All email clients suck. Right now Claws-Mail sucks the least, but that could change in a heartbeat. In my experience, a Dovecot server is a much more reliable place to *keep* email than is any client, because you can access it from *any* IMAP aware email client. A localhost-only Dovecot isn't any harder to set up than an email client, but in my experience it's a much better steward of your email. Imagine if, two years ago, you had kept such emails in Kmail, and then upgraded your Linux and been forced into Kmail2. It would have been a disaster. The other thing is, I'm not really sure what your goal is. It sounds like you want your emails on yours and your friends IMAP server, and then a copy locally. Or perhaps you wanted your old email only locally. Either of those speaks to a local Dovecot server. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ * http://twitter.com/stevelitt Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance I only want my old mails locally but I think I have to consider a local Dovecot installation; the more I think about it the more that seems to be the best solution... :) BTJ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
