Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-20 Thread Sami Ketola
> On 20 Nov 2017, at 12.54, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > If I had lets say 10 nodes handling incoming SMTP and delivery to local > maildirs in parallel and independantly on a network storage and imapping this > from another independant 4 nodes, then building a not

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-20 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 12:05:46 +0200 Sami Ketola wrote: > > On 20 Nov 2017, at 10.50, Stephan von Krawczynski > > wrote: > > > > AFAIK no complex director stuff would be needed then, right? > > The second sentence implies that using file locking

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-20 Thread Sami Ketola
> On 20 Nov 2017, at 10.50, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > AFAIK no complex director stuff would be needed then, right? > The second sentence implies that using file locking should also be enough, > which dovecot does. You are building such a complex system and then

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-20 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 21:40:55 +0200 Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 7 Nov 2017, at 21.33, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > > > > > Me again have to stress that our former implementation of the lda process > > did do exactly nothing to all the dovecot files, and

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-07 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 7 Nov 2017, at 21.33, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > > Me again have to stress that our former implementation of the lda process did > do exactly nothing to all the dovecot files, and everything worked pretty > well. We had no problems in years. So I really wonder if

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-07 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 19:19:23 +0200 Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 7 Nov 2017, at 9.15, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > > > On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 13:19:12 +1000 > > Noel Butler wrote: > > > >> mail_location Optionally disable indexes

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-07 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 7 Nov 2017, at 9.15, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 13:19:12 +1000 > Noel Butler wrote: > >> mail_location Optionally disable indexes using :INDEX=MEMORY >> >> don't use this on IMAP boxes, but is safe to use on

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/6/2017, 6:18:43 PM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:50:16 -0500 Tanstaafl wrote: >> Dovecot's indexing is one of its main features, and WHY it is so much >> faster than others. >> >> And you want to just turn it off?

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-06 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 13:19:12 +1000 Noel Butler wrote: > mail_location Optionally disable indexes using :INDEX=MEMORY > > don't use this on IMAP boxes, but is safe to use on SMTP and POP3's > boxes though > > eg: > > mail_location = >

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-06 Thread Angel L. Mateo
El 03/11/17 a las 12:50, Stephan von Krawczynski escribió: Hello, we have a setup where SMTP/LDA and POP3/IMAP are on different physical hosts. They share the mail data via an external storage. Now we would like to use dovecot-lda on the smtp host, so we wonder if the lda binary works without

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-06 Thread Noel Butler
On 07/11/2017 09:18, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:50:16 -0500 > Tanstaafl wrote: > > On 11/6/2017, 4:01:19 AM, Stephan von Krawczynski > wrote: Still we are not content with it touching/locking dovecot.index.log. If >

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-06 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:50:16 -0500 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 11/6/2017, 4:01:19 AM, Stephan von Krawczynski > wrote: > > Still we are not content with it touching/locking dovecot.index.log. If > > someone pointed at one location in the code where this

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/6/2017, 4:01:19 AM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > Still we are not content with it touching/locking dovecot.index.log. If > someone pointed at one location in the code where this could be disabled we > would implement a new param for switching that off.

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-06 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 08:37:11 +0200 Sami Ketola wrote: > > On 5 Nov 2017, at 12.55, Stephan von Krawczynski > > wrote: Sorry to say this setup works flawlessly for years. The only > > addition we will make now is to do the delivery with dovecot-lda. >

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-05 Thread Sami Ketola
> On 5 Nov 2017, at 12.55, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > Sorry to say this setup works flawlessly for years. The only addition we > will make now is to do the delivery with dovecot-lda. Everything else > (including multiple dovecot pop/imap servers) will stay as is. >

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-05 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 10:44:25 +0200 Sami Ketola wrote: > > On 4 Nov 2017, at 10.31, Stephan von Krawczynski > > wrote: > > > > On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 01:57:31 +0200 > > Sami Ketola wrote: > >> Again that does not answer my

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-05 Thread Sami Ketola
> On 4 Nov 2017, at 10.31, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 01:57:31 +0200 > Sami Ketola wrote: >> Again that does not answer my question why? Why do you want all the locking >> problems and multi-access problems that come with

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-04 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 01:57:31 +0200 Sami Ketola wrote: > >> > >> While it might be possible to disable all the other services except > >> master I must ask why? How would the users be accessing their mails then? > >> > >> Sami > > > > Hello Sami, > > > > you did not

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-03 Thread Stephan Herker
On 11/3/2017 4:57 PM, Sami Ketola wrote: While it might be possible to disable all the other services except master I must ask why? How would the users be accessing their mails then? Sami Hello Sami, you did not read my first post. We are talking about a multihost installation where one host

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-03 Thread Sami Ketola
>> >> While it might be possible to disable all the other services except master I >> must ask why? How would the users be accessing their mails then? >> >> Sami > > Hello Sami, > > you did not read my first post. We are talking about a multihost installation > where one host does SMTP and

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-03 Thread Aki Tuomi
you could try setting protocols = in config file to disable (most) listeners. ---Aki TuomiDovecot oy Original message From: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw...@ithnet.com> Date: 03/11/2017 19:39 (GMT+02:00) To: Dovecot Mailing List <dovecot@dovecot.org> Subject: Re:

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-03 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 19:30:22 +0200 Sami Ketola wrote: > > On 3 Nov 2017, at 18.23, Stephan von Krawczynski > > wrote: Hello Aki, > > > > let me explain this a bit more. We do not intend to use only some copied > > binary. Of course we would do a full

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-03 Thread Sami Ketola
> On 3 Nov 2017, at 18.23, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > Hello Aki, > > let me explain this a bit more. We do not intend to use only some copied > binary. Of course we would do a full installation of dovecot and pidgeonhole, > only we question if it is necessary to start

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-03 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 17:53:47 +0200 (EET) Aki Tuomi wrote: > > On November 3, 2017 at 1:50 PM Stephan von Krawczynski > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > we have a setup where SMTP/LDA and POP3/IMAP are on different physical > > hosts. They share

Re: dovecot-lda without starting dovecot?

2017-11-03 Thread Aki Tuomi
> On November 3, 2017 at 1:50 PM Stephan von Krawczynski > wrote: > > > Hello, > > we have a setup where SMTP/LDA and POP3/IMAP are on different physical hosts. > They share the mail data via an external storage. > Now we would like to use dovecot-lda on the smtp host,