[DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Will Dean


Hi all,

You're all going to love me (not), as I've just checked in a whole load of 
stuff which (almost) requires a DLL update. (I know not everyone who takes 
CVS copies can actually build the DLL from the source.)

I'm on a mission to try and eliminate all script errors, particularly now 
I've realised that the error message always quotes search.htm as the file, 
regardless of the true location - this makes it fantastically difficult for 
people without script debuggers to offer useful feedback on the errors.

To this end, I've made the following changes:

Added various bits of exception handling around the place with messageboxes 
containing sensible (to me) sounding error messages if calls fail.   This 
includes code to catch errors in XML searches (as reported by MLL).  The 
error message in this case is rather techy (it contains the search code), 
but as this is really to help developers, I think that's OK.

Added a new method to ILauncher on DQSDTools.dll which can verify that the 
DLL is of a specified version.

Added a new JS module (version.js) which at startup checks in a controlled 
fashion that A. the DQSDTools DLL is available and A. that it's the correct 
version.

It's down to anyone creating a dependency between revisions to the DLL and 
the scripts to bump the version resource _and_ the values in version.js.

Cheers,

Will















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RE: [DQSD-Users] Javascript errors

2002-06-07 Thread MLL

Sorry, there was 2 so.xml files attached to my post. anyway, both of them produce the 
errors described.

MLL

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 Sensitivity: Personal
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Another hint for javascript error hunters : I modified so.xml 
 (attached), making an error (missing = in line 22). From 
 then on, when I typed ! in DQSB, I got a JS syntax error on 
 line 169 in *search.htm*. Later on, whenever I started a 
 search, I got 'undefined' is null or is not an object on 
 line 146, still in search.htm.
 
 So errors in search.htm may be caused by bad xml search files.
 
 Cheers,
 
 MLL
 


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RE: [DQSD-Users] Javascript errors

2002-06-07 Thread Will Dean

At 13:09 07/06/2002 +0200, you wrote:

Sorry, there was 2 so.xml files attached to my post. anyway, both of them 
produce the errors described.

The next release will contain code which traps these error better.

Thanks for providing this example.

Cheers,

Will



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RE: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Monty Scroggins



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
 Of Will Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:11 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

 I'm on a mission to try and eliminate all script errors,
 particularly now I've realised that the error message
 always quotes search.htm as the file, regardless of the
 true location - this makes it fantastically difficult for
 people without script debuggers to offer useful feedback
 on the errors.


Here here!  I can certainly testify to the horror of debugging the
javascript errors with the poke and hope method..   This problem
was even more magnified when you discover that the displayed error
didn't support copy/paste... Thats one lousy alert dialog MS has..

Good work Will...  I am anxious to give it a try..   Your message
indicates it *almost* requires a dll update..   This means I can I
pull it from CVS and plug it in right?

Monty



_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
Monty Scroggins
Broadband Data Systems Engineering (BDSE)
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RE: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Glenn Carr

Cool.  Thanks for diving into this.

One minor thing that I noticed that Dave was pretty insistent about using 2
spaces for indentation (no tabs) in the script files.

(I use textpad (www.textpad.com) for editing script files which makes it
very easy to change indentation to spaces.)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Will Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:11 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it



 Hi all,

 You're all going to love me (not), as I've just checked in a
 whole load of
 stuff which (almost) requires a DLL update. (I know not everyone
 who takes
 CVS copies can actually build the DLL from the source.)

 I'm on a mission to try and eliminate all script errors, particularly now
 I've realised that the error message always quotes search.htm as
 the file,
 regardless of the true location - this makes it fantastically
 difficult for
 people without script debuggers to offer useful feedback on the errors.

 To this end, I've made the following changes:

 Added various bits of exception handling around the place with
 messageboxes
 containing sensible (to me) sounding error messages if calls fail.   This
 includes code to catch errors in XML searches (as reported by MLL).  The
 error message in this case is rather techy (it contains the search code),
 but as this is really to help developers, I think that's OK.

 Added a new method to ILauncher on DQSDTools.dll which can verify
 that the
 DLL is of a specified version.

 Added a new JS module (version.js) which at startup checks in a
 controlled
 fashion that A. the DQSDTools DLL is available and A. that it's
 the correct
 version.

 It's down to anyone creating a dependency between revisions to
 the DLL and
 the scripts to bump the version resource _and_ the values in version.js.

 Cheers,

 Will















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RE: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Will Dean

At 07:46 07/06/2002 -0500, you wrote:

One minor thing that I noticed that Dave was pretty insistent about using 2
spaces for indentation (no tabs) in the script files.

Well, if he cares that much, he'd better process them all after I check 
them in

(I use textpad (www.textpad.com) for editing script files which makes it
very easy to change indentation to spaces.)

I'll try and behave in future, but I won't be adding further to my 
excessively large collection of editors!

Will






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RE: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Glenn Carr

;)  I understand.

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 Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 8:29 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it
 
 
 At 07:46 07/06/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 
 One minor thing that I noticed that Dave was pretty insistent 
 about using 2
 spaces for indentation (no tabs) in the script files.
 
 Well, if he cares that much, he'd better process them all after I check 
 them in
 
 (I use textpad (www.textpad.com) for editing script files which makes it
 very easy to change indentation to spaces.)
 
 I'll try and behave in future, but I won't be adding further to my 
 excessively large collection of editors!
 
 Will
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Glenn Carr

 Maybe we should put the DQSDTools binary into CVS so that the developers
 who don't work on the DLL can get it without waiting for another
 build.   That's one for Glen/Dave to decide, really.

Yeah, thought about that.  That's one of the reasons for adding new beta
releases.  I've had some problems with binaries when trying to pull them
from the CVS browser front-end when I checked the googlespell add-on in as a
binary.

Are we ready for another snapshot (beta) release?


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RE: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Will Dean

At 08:38 07/06/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Yeah, thought about that.  That's one of the reasons for adding new beta
releases.  I've had some problems with binaries when trying to pull them
from the CVS browser front-end when I checked the googlespell add-on in as a
binary.

I did think CVS was supposed to do binaries OK, but who knows with these 
strange unix things?

Are we ready for another snapshot (beta) release?

I'm up for that.  I'd have thought we should be looking at a full release 
pretty soon and it's a fair while since even the last beta.

Will


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Re: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Glenn Carr

 I did think CVS was supposed to do binaries OK, but who knows with these
 strange unix things?

I think it's just a problem when trying to download it through the
SourceForge browser UI.  CVS probably does just fine.


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[DQSD-Users] ANN: DQSD 2.5.8 beta 9

2002-06-07 Thread Glenn Carr

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=42081release_id=90584

Change Log:
http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=90584


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Re: [DQSD-Users] ANN: DQSD 2.5.8 beta 9

2002-06-07 Thread Glenn Carr

You guys might take a look at the change log to see if I've omitted
anything.




http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=42081release_id=90584

 Change Log:
 http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=90584



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Re: [DQSD-Users] ANN: DQSD 2.5.8 beta 9

2002-06-07 Thread John W. Bairen, Jr.

I'm getting error about

Unable to load search from searches\googletrans.xml: Whitespace is not
allowed at this location.

JB


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http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=42081release_id=90584

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Re: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Glenn Carr

 One minor thing that I noticed that Dave was pretty insistent about using
2
 spaces for indentation (no tabs) in the script files.

I went ahead and changed these files and updated the beta 9 release.

 I'll try and behave in future, but I won't be adding further to my
 excessively large collection of editors!

Understood.  Here are the guidelines he laid down back when he was working
on it...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dqsdd/message/264

Although, I just realized I've been violating the parenthesis rule (no
space characters after a ( or before a ).) for a while now.  Oh well.

Later,
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RE: [DQSD-Users] ANN: DQSD 2.5.8 beta 9

2002-06-07 Thread MLL

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Carr
 Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] ANN: DQSD 2.5.8 beta 9
 
 
 You guys might take a look at the change log to see if I've omitted
 anything.
 

Err... What about so.xml updated ? (see [DQSD-Users] so.xml updated)

 
 
 
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=42081re
 lease_id=90584
 
  Change Log:
  http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=90584
 
 


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Re: [DQSD-Users] ANN: DQSD 2.5.8 beta 9

2002-06-07 Thread Glenn Carr

Oops!  My mistake.  googletrans.xml shouldn't be in there (yet?).  I've
updatded the package.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=42081release_id=90584

 I'm getting error about

 Unable to load search from searches\googletrans.xml: Whitespace is not
 allowed at this location.

 JB



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Re: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Will Dean

At 10:20 07/06/2002 -0500, you wrote:


Understood.  Here are the guidelines he laid down back when he was working
on it...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dqsdd/message/264

Although, I just realized I've been violating the parenthesis rule (no
space characters after a ( or before a ).) for a while now.  Oh well.

Oh well indeed.  I'm breaking about half of those rules.   Let's see if he 
backs my code out.

Will



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Re: [DQSD-Users] Some suggestions and a bunch of new searches (esp. for Canadians)

2002-06-07 Thread Glenn Carr

 - Is it possible to make all searches open in a maximized browser
 window? Someone else mentioned this earlier today, but I wanted to say
 that I am also highly in favour of this, if it is possible. (I did try
 to make some changes to search.htm to see if I could get this working on
 my own, but I believe my JavaScript skills were simply not robust enough
 to get the job done.)

I'm not sure, but why don't you add this to the feature request list:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=432069group_id=42081func=browse


 - When I change one of the aliases (e.g. having ; go to the Merriam
 Webster Thesaurus, instead of Thesaurus.com), the help file still lists
 that alias under its original search, as well as under the search I want
 it to point to. I guess it isn't a huge problem, but it can get a bit
 confusing.

Good point.  Would you mind adding a bug item for this?
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=42081atid=432066

 I would also like to contribute the searches I have created for my own
 use. First, let me say that my JavaScript skills are a bit rusty, so
 these are pretty much all adaptations of other searches, and so they
 might not be optimized (especially the phone number ones, because I am
 stumped so far by regular expressions) - again, any
 suggestions/corrections are very welcome.

Fantastic.  Anybody want to check these out and then check them in?

 - rt, rotten tomatoes - for looking up movie info and reviews
 
 - ar, all recipes - for looking up recipes
 
 - ul, snopes urban legends - for looking up (you guessed it) urban
 legends, as well as email hoaxes and rumours, etc
 
 And some searches with a Canadian flavour:
 
 - chap, chapters/indigo - shop for books, DVD's, etc
 
 - twn, the weather network - look up your weather forecast by city
 
 - is, isb, isc, isp, ispb, infospace phone number lookups - these 5
 should probably be consolidated into 2 searches, using switches
 
 I have attached these to the message.
 
 Thanks again for your help yesterday and today, and thanks in advance
 for any help in the future. Kudos to everyone who has contributed!!
 
 Sarah



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Re: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Glenn Carr

 Oh well indeed.  I'm breaking about half of those rules.   Let's see if he
 backs my code out.

 Will

Well, I assumed that was only for the script.  I'm using tabs set at 4 for
C++ code (which is the MS way).

(Jon,  Any chance we could get that note about the style guidelines in the
FAQ?)

Later,
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Re: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Will Dean

At 11:15 07/06/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Absolutely no hurry (right Will? ;) ... just a suggestion

No.  He must immediately stop what he's doing, and modify the FAQ.   When 
he's done that, he can check the widths of all the tabs in all the code.

After that, my lawn needs mowing.   I will provide a (blunt) pair of nail 
scissors for the purpose.

Doing a paid job or having a personal life is no route to successful open 
source zealotry.

Sheesh, some people.

Will


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Re: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread John W. Bairen, Jr.

hmm, monty.  i didn't get that new category and i ran Glenn's install.  did
the electronics category come from some one else's search file that you
manually copied in?

JB

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 There seems to be a new category Electronics which contains a single
 search.  I noticed the enabled/total stats for the category shows 0/1
even
 though the search is in fact enabled...

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[DQSD-Users] Flag to launch new browser window

2002-06-07 Thread Tim Lara



Is there already a 
way to force the deskbar to launch a search or URL in a new browser 
window? If not, then IMHO it would be useful to havesuch a 
feature. While most of the time it is desirable to have a search launch in 
the same window that it last used so that one does not end up with 50 browser 
windows open if doint a lotof searching, at other times it 
isslightly annoying when you want a browser to stay put and anything you 
type into the deskbar grabs that same window and points it somewhere 
else...


Re: [DQSD-Users] Flag to launch new browser window

2002-06-07 Thread John W. Bairen, Jr.



tim there is a preference...

/* Reuse browser window mode* NOTE: reuse 
browser mode is only valid when IE is the default browser.* If any 
other browser is the default and the launchmode=1, a new browser* 
window will be spawned for each search regardless of category.** 
0=new window always [default]* 1=single window for all* 
2=single window for each search type*/reuseBrowserWindowMode = 
0;


if you have this set in localprefs.js to 1 (single 
window for all) then 2.5.8 beta 9 has new feature that shift+enter will launch 
in new window (bypassing reuseBrowserWindowMode option)

JB


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  Tim 
  Lara 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:06 PM
  Subject: [DQSD-Users] Flag to launch new 
  browser window
  
  Is there already a 
  way to force the deskbar to launch a search or URL in a new browser 
  window? If not, then IMHO it would be useful to havesuch a 
  feature. While most of the time it is desirable to have a search launch 
  in the same window that it last used so that one does not end up with 50 
  browser windows open if doint a lotof searching, at other times it 
  isslightly annoying when you want a browser to stay put and anything you 
  type into the deskbar grabs that same window and points it somewhere 
  else...


Re: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it

2002-06-07 Thread Glenn Carr

Fixed and checked in (categoryExpander.htc)

 Ah..  I had pulled down a few searches from Peter Heath's page -
 http://www.metrocast.net/~peteh/toolbar.html..  sorry about that..
anyway...
 the intent of the posting was to point out what appears to be a bug in the
 enabled search counters when only one search exists in a category...



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