Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 20:43:09 +0530 Sanjay Mysore wrote: > Dear Selk > Checked via live cd itself. Output the contents of /usr/pkg to a .txt > file and viewed the contents since it is huge and display on the > terminal does not cover everything. You can do: ls | more or ls | less or browse it with mc > I could not find a browser, ice cat or midori. Very much needed. Right, there are plans to add a desktop or a window manager, including a web browser. > Also, wvdial is a must for me to connect to internet, since there is > no network manager as in xfce I will try to add wvdial. > There are a lot of fonts. Are the sony fonts 'free'? Since sony is > not an advocate of free software. Daewoo fonts? Shumacher? > Interesting.. Interesting, do you have more information so I can check it?. Thanks. > On 31 Jan 2018 12:42 am, "Matias Fonzo" wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:19:03 +0530 > > Sanjay Mysore wrote: > > > > > Used the nano editor today. How to know what all are available on > > > the livecd? Command ls at bash prompt returns nothing, blank > > > > Do you mean inside of the system?. In that case, you can type: > > > > ls /usr/pkg > > > > From the outside, you need to mount the ISO (iso9660), then mount > > the squashfs image (.sfs) in a loop. > > > > > > > > On 24 Jan 2018 8:59 pm, "Matias Fonzo" wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:42:31 +0530 > > > > Sanjay Mysore wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much > > > > > I am not imposing upon you, since i am not such an expert I > > > > > ask these questions. May be I did not understand properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, no problem! -- your questions are welcome. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
Dear Selk Checked via live cd itself. Output the contents of /usr/pkg to a .txt file and viewed the contents since it is huge and display on the terminal does not cover everything. I could not find a browser, ice cat or midori. Very much needed. Also, wvdial is a must for me to connect to internet, since there is no network manager as in xfce There are a lot of fonts. Are the sony fonts 'free'? Since sony is not an advocate of free software. Daewoo fonts? Shumacher? Interesting.. On 31 Jan 2018 12:42 am, "Matias Fonzo" wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:19:03 +0530 > Sanjay Mysore wrote: > > > Used the nano editor today. How to know what all are available on the > > livecd? Command ls at bash prompt returns nothing, blank > > Do you mean inside of the system?. In that case, you can type: > > ls /usr/pkg > > From the outside, you need to mount the ISO (iso9660), then mount the > squashfs image (.sfs) in a loop. > > > > > On 24 Jan 2018 8:59 pm, "Matias Fonzo" wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:42:31 +0530 > > > Sanjay Mysore wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much > > > > I am not imposing upon you, since i am not such an expert I ask > > > > these questions. May be I did not understand properly > > > > > > > > > > Hey, no problem! -- your questions are welcome. :-) > > > > > > > >
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:19:03 +0530 Sanjay Mysore wrote: > Used the nano editor today. How to know what all are available on the > livecd? Command ls at bash prompt returns nothing, blank Do you mean inside of the system?. In that case, you can type: ls /usr/pkg From the outside, you need to mount the ISO (iso9660), then mount the squashfs image (.sfs) in a loop. > > On 24 Jan 2018 8:59 pm, "Matias Fonzo" wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:42:31 +0530 > > Sanjay Mysore wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you very much > > > I am not imposing upon you, since i am not such an expert I ask > > > these questions. May be I did not understand properly > > > > > > > Hey, no problem! -- your questions are welcome. :-) > > > >
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
Used the nano editor today. How to know what all are available on the livecd? Command ls at bash prompt returns nothing, blank On 24 Jan 2018 8:59 pm, "Matias Fonzo" wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:42:31 +0530 > Sanjay Mysore wrote: > > > > > Thank you very much > > I am not imposing upon you, since i am not such an expert I ask these > > questions. May be I did not understand properly > > > > Hey, no problem! -- your questions are welcome. :-) > >
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:42:31 +0530 Sanjay Mysore wrote: > > Thank you very much > I am not imposing upon you, since i am not such an expert I ask these > questions. May be I did not understand properly > Hey, no problem! -- your questions are welcome. :-)
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
Dear Selk Thank you very much I am not imposing upon you, since i am not such an expert I ask these questions. May be I did not understand properly On 24 Jan 2018 8:30 pm, "Matias Fonzo" wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 19:53:37 +0530 > Sanjay Mysore wrote: > > > In that case, what can we see, test? Programs? > > I am assuming that your question is what you can do (currently) inside > of D3-alpha1. Well, it depends on how do you see it.. the most > important thing in this release is that the main design scheme was > consolidated. Testing the releases is very important in order to have > the most stable version possible. Not having a full desktop is not > *less* because the system has 1000+ utilities/commands, including the > documentation for it (manual pages, texinfo), plus the compiler to > expand the system.. but as I said -- it depends on how do you see > it, I know that the users are expecting something more complete, sure. > I will try to add a desktop/window manager soon. > >
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 19:53:37 +0530 Sanjay Mysore wrote: > In that case, what can we see, test? Programs? I am assuming that your question is what you can do (currently) inside of D3-alpha1. Well, it depends on how do you see it.. the most important thing in this release is that the main design scheme was consolidated. Testing the releases is very important in order to have the most stable version possible. Not having a full desktop is not *less* because the system has 1000+ utilities/commands, including the documentation for it (manual pages, texinfo), plus the compiler to expand the system.. but as I said -- it depends on how do you see it, I know that the users are expecting something more complete, sure. I will try to add a desktop/window manager soon.
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
Dear Selk In that case, what can we see, test? Programs? On 24 Jan 2018 7:51 pm, "Matias Fonzo" wrote: > Hi Sanjay, > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 19:39:15 +0530 > Sanjay Mysore wrote: > > > I booted into dragora 3. Gave the startx command in terminal. Two > > screens and one clock appeared. > > Is there no DE? > > The default is with TWM. > > Adding a more complete desktop is still pending, if you want to make a > suggestion... > >
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
Hi Sanjay, On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 19:39:15 +0530 Sanjay Mysore wrote: > I booted into dragora 3. Gave the startx command in terminal. Two > screens and one clock appeared. > Is there no DE? The default is with TWM. Adding a more complete desktop is still pending, if you want to make a suggestion...
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
I booted into dragora 3. Gave the startx command in terminal. Two screens and one clock appeared. Is there no DE? On 3 Jan 2018 1:50 am, "Matias Fonzo" wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 20:25:37 +0100 > Antonio Diaz Diaz wrote: > > > Matias Fonzo wrote: > > > Dragora 3.0-alpha1 has been recently published, and it is available > > > for anyone to download and test. > > > > I'll test it as soon as I can. > > > > I will be waiting your impression, results. :-) > > > Feliz año nuevo, > Matías > > >
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 20:25:37 +0100 Antonio Diaz Diaz wrote: > Matias Fonzo wrote: > > Dragora 3.0-alpha1 has been recently published, and it is available > > for anyone to download and test. > > I'll test it as soon as I can. > I will be waiting your impression, results. :-) Feliz año nuevo, Matías
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
Matias Fonzo wrote: Dragora 3.0-alpha1 has been recently published, and it is available for anyone to download and test. Congratulations Matias. :-) I'll test it as soon as I can. Best wishes, Antonio.
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
Sanjay, On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 16:50:24 +0530 Sanjay Mysore wrote: > Thank you. Had been waiting for this from 5 years. Better late than never, true?. :-) > Written to Mr. Tiberiu asking him how to change the boot sequence on > the TET 400 laptop. > Downloaded the iso and burnt on a CD. > I am unaware as to what needs to be done on libreboot for changing > the boot sequence. > Have you asked on #dragora?, I think some of the guys knows how to do this... About the devices of tehnoetic.com - what I can say is that, beginning with this one alpha1, Dragora includes the support for those at kernel/firmware level.
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
Hello Thiago, On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 12:03:14 -0200 Thiago wrote: > > I don't know how difficult would be to do that, but would be it > possible to add > the Speakup kernel module with the espeakup driver to the final > release of Dragora 3.0? Yes, the speakup module is there. I need to take a look to the eSpeakup project, we don't need to wait for the stable release, it would be better if we can test it (with you) before.. Software that REALLY helps people is part of the mission. I will try to add this soon as possible. Thank you!
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
Dear Selk Thank you. Had been waiting for this from 5 years. Written to Mr. Tiberiu asking him how to change the boot sequence on the TET 400 laptop. Downloaded the iso and burnt on a CD. I am unaware as to what needs to be done on libreboot for changing the boot sequence. On 1 Jan 2018 4:51 am, "Matias Fonzo" wrote: > Dragora 3.0-alpha1 has been recently published, and it is available for > anyone to download and test. > > Dragora is a reliable multi-purpose GNU/Linux distribution that is > founded on the concepts of simplicity and elegance. Dragora respects > the freedom of users via the values of free software, and it provides > the tools and environment to have full control over your system. > > The homepage is at: > > - http://www.dragora.org > > The current development pages are located at: > > - http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/dragora.git/ > - http://notabug.org/dragora/ > > Some highlights of this new Dragora 3.0 series are: > > Dragora now utilizes the Musl C library, which provides many > optimizations and benefits over other C libraries. > Libraries and binaries are now optimized for size, and most binaries > are statically linked to avoid problems during updates. > > The init system has been replaced by Sinit and Perp. Sinit is a > minimal init system that acts as PID number 1, and Perp is a persistent > process supervisor that complements Sinit. This system provides a > simple and reliable approach to init and process management. > > The 3.0 series also includes a new package manager, Qi. Qi provides > simple commands for building, installing, upgrading, inspecting, and > removing software packages. Qi utilizes another tool, Graft, to keep > packages within a single directory hierarchy (/usr/pkg by default). > > This alpha1 version of Dragora is available for x86 (32/64), and both > versions can be run as a live CD. The alpha1 ISO provides an ethernet > connection and a simple working TWM desktop environment. > > The ISO images may be fetched at: > > - http://mirror.fsf.org/dragora/ISO/ > - http://mirrors.peers.community/dragora/ISO/ > - http://csphy.blue/dragora/mirror/ISO/ > > The sha256sums are: > > - f3b0f1ef5d10e5d0b46ffaaa7f911e5206949ab7c9514e347187cb012445d178 > dragora-3.0-i586-alpha1.iso > > - a9553009144cd74d9dc5b8abb9d80976bd3a4ce791d2965a5671a01ec45b05c5 > dragora-3.0-x86_64-alpha1.iso > > We welcome feedback at our Freenode IRC channel, #dragora, and on our > mailing list. We are looking for help with documentation, website > migration, bug fixing, etc... > > Thank you to all of you who support Dragora, and thank you especially > for supporting the philosophy and spirit of software freedom that > Dragora aims to promote. > > > Happy New Year!, > Matías Fonzo, Dragora author and maintainer. > > >
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
Hello. Congratulations on the new release! I don't know how difficult would be to do that, but would be it possible to add the Speakup kernel module with the espeakup driver to the final release of Dragora 3.0? Speakup is a screen reader for blind people that reads the console output, enabling them to install and use the system. Espeakup is a driver that enables the computer to produce speech with the eSpeak synthesizer, so the computer can produce it with no external hardware. I ask that because the only way I could install Dragora 2 onto a computer was installing it onto a virtual machine with external tools, and with Speakup it would be possible to install Dragora natively. Update: after I wrote the message I have seen that the speakup kernel module is already included in the iso of dragora 3.0 (the difficult part). The easy part would be compiling espeakup and eSpeak as well. Thanks in advance and happy new year! Em 31/12/2017 21:16, Matias Fonzo escreveu: Dragora 3.0-alpha1 has been recently published, and it is available for anyone to download and test. Dragora is a reliable multi-purpose GNU/Linux distribution that is founded on the concepts of simplicity and elegance. Dragora respects the freedom of users via the values of free software, and it provides the tools and environment to have full control over your system. The homepage is at: - http://www.dragora.org The current development pages are located at: - http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/dragora.git/ - http://notabug.org/dragora/ Some highlights of this new Dragora 3.0 series are: Dragora now utilizes the Musl C library, which provides many optimizations and benefits over other C libraries. Libraries and binaries are now optimized for size, and most binaries are statically linked to avoid problems during updates. The init system has been replaced by Sinit and Perp. Sinit is a minimal init system that acts as PID number 1, and Perp is a persistent process supervisor that complements Sinit. This system provides a simple and reliable approach to init and process management. The 3.0 series also includes a new package manager, Qi. Qi provides simple commands for building, installing, upgrading, inspecting, and removing software packages. Qi utilizes another tool, Graft, to keep packages within a single directory hierarchy (/usr/pkg by default). This alpha1 version of Dragora is available for x86 (32/64), and both versions can be run as a live CD. The alpha1 ISO provides an ethernet connection and a simple working TWM desktop environment. The ISO images may be fetched at: - http://mirror.fsf.org/dragora/ISO/ - http://mirrors.peers.community/dragora/ISO/ - http://csphy.blue/dragora/mirror/ISO/ The sha256sums are: - f3b0f1ef5d10e5d0b46ffaaa7f911e5206949ab7c9514e347187cb012445d178 dragora-3.0-i586-alpha1.iso - a9553009144cd74d9dc5b8abb9d80976bd3a4ce791d2965a5671a01ec45b05c5 dragora-3.0-x86_64-alpha1.iso We welcome feedback at our Freenode IRC channel, #dragora, and on our mailing list. We are looking for help with documentation, website migration, bug fixing, etc... Thank you to all of you who support Dragora, and thank you especially for supporting the philosophy and spirit of software freedom that Dragora aims to promote. Happy New Year!, Matías Fonzo, Dragora author and maintainer.
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 00:44:42 + Russ wrote: > Thanks so much! ISO boots great, however it prompts for a login - is > there a default user? > Oops, the user is "root" pass is "d3live" -- Best Regards. Mateus Pinto Rodrigues (mprodrigues) [66679238] free software enthusiast and developer E462 69C4 73EF 91F9 25E2 8249 0F8B 6C54 6667 9238 pgpUiNvC2CMOZ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Dragora-users] Dragora 3.0-alpha1
Thanks so much! ISO boots great, however it prompts for a login - is there a default user? On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 11:16 PM, Matias Fonzo wrote: > Dragora 3.0-alpha1 has been recently published, and it is available for > anyone to download and test. > > Dragora is a reliable multi-purpose GNU/Linux distribution that is > founded on the concepts of simplicity and elegance. Dragora respects > the freedom of users via the values of free software, and it provides > the tools and environment to have full control over your system. > > The homepage is at: > > - http://www.dragora.org > > The current development pages are located at: > > - http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/dragora.git/ > - http://notabug.org/dragora/ > > Some highlights of this new Dragora 3.0 series are: > > Dragora now utilizes the Musl C library, which provides many > optimizations and benefits over other C libraries. > Libraries and binaries are now optimized for size, and most binaries > are statically linked to avoid problems during updates. > > The init system has been replaced by Sinit and Perp. Sinit is a > minimal init system that acts as PID number 1, and Perp is a persistent > process supervisor that complements Sinit. This system provides a > simple and reliable approach to init and process management. > > The 3.0 series also includes a new package manager, Qi. Qi provides > simple commands for building, installing, upgrading, inspecting, and > removing software packages. Qi utilizes another tool, Graft, to keep > packages within a single directory hierarchy (/usr/pkg by default). > > This alpha1 version of Dragora is available for x86 (32/64), and both > versions can be run as a live CD. The alpha1 ISO provides an ethernet > connection and a simple working TWM desktop environment. > > The ISO images may be fetched at: > > - http://mirror.fsf.org/dragora/ISO/ > - http://mirrors.peers.community/dragora/ISO/ > - http://csphy.blue/dragora/mirror/ISO/ > > The sha256sums are: > > - f3b0f1ef5d10e5d0b46ffaaa7f911e5206949ab7c9514e347187cb012445d178 > dragora-3.0-i586-alpha1.iso > > - a9553009144cd74d9dc5b8abb9d80976bd3a4ce791d2965a5671a01ec45b05c5 > dragora-3.0-x86_64-alpha1.iso > > We welcome feedback at our Freenode IRC channel, #dragora, and on our > mailing list. We are looking for help with documentation, website > migration, bug fixing, etc... > > Thank you to all of you who support Dragora, and thank you especially > for supporting the philosophy and spirit of software freedom that > Dragora aims to promote. > > > Happy New Year!, > Matías Fonzo, Dragora author and maintainer. > > >
