Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-07 Thread Jim Shorney
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:34:15 -0700, Richard Knoppow wrote: > I am somewhat surprized that the frequency responce is >affected enough to be heard through the rather narrow and >sharp filters in modern SSB rigs. Depends on the rig and the D-104, to a degree. A non-amped D-104 on a rig with 50

Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-07 Thread Jim Shorney
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 06:51:00 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote: >The stock Astatic 2-stage preamp is an engineering disaster IMO. So, I'm not too far off the mark in calling it an"abomination"? :) Generally speaking, I'm against preamped mics except in the case of rigs that require them (i.e., radi

[Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-07 Thread Woody
*Thanks Guys for the help, I will install a 470K resistor in the Mic. I appreciated all the feedback but remember I said I was a pretty good Toolmaker/Machinist not a electronics man so a LOT of the reply's was WAY above this Old Country Boy's head. * *Thanks * Woody ___

Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-07 Thread Paul Christensen
Note: if the high level input pin is used, the load is 470K + the low level impedance. I use 470K for the series resitor, for a total of around a meg. Jim, Excellent point. If you were going to use the D104 with a modern DSP-based transceiver, I would have suggested gutting the Astatic preamp

Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Richard Knoppow
- Original Message - From: "Jim Shorney" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7 On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:26:44 -0500, Grant Youngman wrote: That's true. But if one has an amplified stand it will work fine, too. Better with

Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Jim Shorney
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:33:11 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote: >You can add a 100K resistor in the D104's + mic lead. That will help to >unload the crystal element from the TR-7's moderately low input Z. Note: if the high level input pin is used, the load is 470K + the low level impedance. I use

Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Jim Shorney
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:23:08 -0500, Grant Youngman wrote: >Why wouldn't you use the preamp? Because you don't need it, and it can cause more trouble than it's worth. >The preamp eliminates the need to be concerned about matching the input Z of >the radio and eliminates the effect of the input Z

Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Jim Shorney
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:26:44 -0500, Grant Youngman wrote: >That's true. But if one has an amplified stand it will work fine, too. Better without. It's extra gain that is not needed, and it adds another failure point and a point for feedback and distortion to enter. I've gotten excellent results b

Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Grant Youngman
That's true. But if one has an amplified stand it will work fine, too. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:13 PM, K9sqg wrote: > Grant, > > There is no real need for the pre-amp circuit when the D-104 is used with the > TR-7, more than enough gain exists. Don't have to replace the bat

Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Grant Youngman
---- > From: Woody > To: Drake List > Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 9:19 pm > Subject: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7 > > Does any one know the mod to make the 104 work well with the TR7, I was told > you added a resistor of some value but they didn't know the value or where to >

Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread K9sqg
al Message- From: Woody To: Drake List Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 9:19 pm Subject: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7 Does any one know the mod to make the 104 work well with the TR7, I was told you added a resistor of some value but they didn't know the value or where to put it. I need to know it a

Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Paul Christensen
to use the D104 with a modern DSP-based transceiver, I would have suggested gutting the Astatic preamp and replace it with one of the FET buffer circuits shown on my QRZ.com page. Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Woody To: Drake List Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:1

[Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Woody
*Does any one know the mod to make the 104 work well with the TR7, I was told you added a **resistor of some value but they didn't know the value or where to put it. I need to know it at the Mod's for Dummies level, I was a Toolmaker not a electronics man, well just enough to be dangerous and stay