Re: [Drakelist] L4B oddity

2012-01-04 Thread Steve Wedge
, milliohms make a difference! Steve, W1ES/4 -Original Message- From: Jim Shorney jshor...@inebraska.com Sent: Jan 3, 2012 11:26 PM To: drakelist@zerobeat.net drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] L4B oddity Do you ever run with color on the plates? It's required that they get a little

Re: [Drakelist] L4B Oddity

2012-01-03 Thread Steve Wedge
d...@martineer.net Cc: richard radke rar...@excite.com, drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] L4B Oddity Don - There seems to be a lot of confusion over 'silver solder' and 'silver-bearing solder'. Silver solder melts at around 1300 degree F, and is typically applied with a small

[Drakelist] L4B oddity

2012-01-03 Thread richard radke
All, Thanks to everyone who made suggestions. Solder on the pins all look ok. .5Ω's on each filament. I'm guessing a grid to filament short/ leak when it gets hot. I did notice a slight bit of clouding near the top of the envelope that wasn't there before. Maybe from running the

Re: [Drakelist] L4B oddity

2012-01-03 Thread Jim Shorney
Do you ever run with color on the plates? It's required that they get a little bit red in operation for the gettering to work. Also, just a tiny bit of extra resistance in the filament pin is all it takes to dim a tube. An ordinary Ohmmeter won't register the difference. 73 -Jim On Tue, 3

Re: [Drakelist] L4B oddity

2012-01-03 Thread David
: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of Jim Shorney Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:26 PM To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] L4B oddity Do you ever run with color on the plates? It's required that they get a little bit red in operation

Re: [Drakelist] L4B oddity

2012-01-03 Thread K9sqg
: [Drakelist] L4B oddity Agree. Using an ohm meter would show little unless zero. For example, if the resistance caused by the pin adds 0.1 ohm, then for a 15 amp filament, that is a 1.5 volt drop; 30% less than normal. If you had a grid to filament short you were right on time for the new year's

[Drakelist] L4B Oddity

2012-01-02 Thread richard radke
I have an unusual situation underway in my L4B. Evan, you out there? Been working fine until yesterday (i know, well happy new year) one of the 3-400's filaments is half as bright as the other. I reversed the tubes and the same tube was dimmer in the opposite hole, and the amp and

Re: [Drakelist] L4B Oddity

2012-01-02 Thread Don Cunningham
On the first question, I have heard of the solder melting out of the pins on the filaments of both the 3-500Z and the 3-400's. If that has happened to your tube, you might be able to just re-solder it and be okay. Some have said to silver solder it, but it seems to me that silver solder

Re: [Drakelist] L4B Oddity

2012-01-02 Thread David
Assaf, III W5XU -Original Message- From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of richard radke Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:31 PM To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: [Drakelist] L4B Oddity I have an unusual situation underway in my L4B. Evan

Re: [Drakelist] L4B Oddity

2012-01-02 Thread Jim Shorney
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:41:59 -0600, David wrote: Do a very close and careful check of the filament pins on the tube. The tube sockets used were notorious for relaxing the friction connection on the pins; the higher resistance created heat and the solder of the pins flowed out. The fix is to

Re: [Drakelist] L4B Oddity

2012-01-02 Thread Garey Barrell
Don - There seems to be a lot of confusion over 'silver solder' and 'silver-bearing solder'. Silver solder melts at around 1300 degree F, and is typically applied with a small torch. It's primarily used for jewelry and other tasks needing a 'hard' solder. I doubt if the glass metal seals

Re: [Drakelist] L4B Oddity

2012-01-02 Thread Jim Shorney
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 22:26:58 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: There seems to be a lot of confusion over 'silver solder' and 'silver-bearing solder'. Indeed, someone edumacated me on the semantics some time back. I've been asked the question often enough that I still have the display card from the

Re: [Drakelist] L4B Oddity

2012-01-02 Thread Don Cunningham
Thanks for that clarification, Garey. I had never heard of silver-bearing solder. I've told you that I never was in electronics professionally, and only had the minimal USN training for radio ops, not the Electronics Techs that did get the full, good stuff, hi. The silver solder I was

Re: [Drakelist] L4B Oddity

2012-01-02 Thread Jim Shorney
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:07:05 -0600, Don Cunningham wrote: I use 63/37 here nearly all the time, only use the 60/40 outside on the antenna wires in a larger size and was afraid the 63/37 would melt too easily. 63/37 melts at almost the same temp as 60/40, but it has the advantage of going from