Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-11-07 Thread Dick KF4NS
think too much. 73, Dick KF4NS St Petersburg, FL 33714 USA Keep The Glow! - Original Message - From: "Tom Holmes" To: "'Dick KF4NS'" ; Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod HI Dick... Well, having more voltag

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-28 Thread Tom Holmes
0 4:15 PM > To: Tom Holmes; drakelist@zerobeat.net > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod > > OH BUGGERS ! > > Tom, you are absolutely right. I know very little about fans and their > design. Never gave it a thought. It is a brushless. Oh well, I will > give the full wave m

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-27 Thread Dick KF4NS
the enlightening. 73, Dick KF4NS St Petersburg, FL 33714 USA Keep The Glow! - Original Message - From: "Tom Holmes" To: "'Dick KF4NS'" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:16 AM Subject: RE: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod Hi Dick... I am guessing that your

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-27 Thread Tom Holmes
kelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] > On Behalf Of Dick KF4NS > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:08 PM > To: drakelist@zerobeat.net > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod > > Paul and all, > I have had a 24vdc .06A fan on the back of my TR4C cage f

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-26 Thread Dick KF4NS
elist] T-4X fan mod Message-ID: <46ac0.5f81cd0b.39f78...@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I found two articles on adding a fan to a T-4X. The first one uses only a diode & capacitor and uses the size of the capacitor to control the amplitude of t

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-26 Thread K9sqg
Fellow Drake enthusiasts, I too have been using 220v fans for various cooling purposes of Drake equipment, especially the power supplies for the L4, L4B, and L7 linears. However, NOT all 220 v fans will start and run reliably on 110 vac. Through experimentation and multiple purchases, I fou

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-26 Thread Garey Barrell
Paul - That pretty well says it! Re receivers I've run R-4/A/B/C for years, 24/7, and never had a transformer failure. I really believe the only failures are caused by an oversize fuse, put in either because the correct one was not at hand or just too cheap to buy some, and a filter ca

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-26 Thread Curt Nixon
Remember, for the T4x series cages, that 80mm fan mounting holes match up perfectly with the cage perforations..so no holes needed. curt ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-26 Thread Eugene Balinski
Do not forget that 220VAC fans run very nicely at 120v and are very quiet. They move just enought air and are typically avaialbe cheap at ham fests because no one usually wants 220V fans... 73 Gene K1NR On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:53:34 EDT ph...@aol.com wrote: > OK, as I see it there are several

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-26 Thread Curt Nixon
PULL THE AIR OUT>> One my twins, I can lay my hand on top right over either the PA cage or the audio output/transformer area, and I cannot tell they are on. I also cannot hear the fans running...Nothing fancy just modern 80mm QUIET fans. The R4B fan is installed behind the gap between the B

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-25 Thread Jim Shorney
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:23:06 -0500, Don Cunningham wrote: > I put foam all around the bottom, forming a good seal and making it pull all > its air out of the cabinet. The foam also eliminates vibration noise from > the fans. Thin weather strip foam from the hardware store works well. >If yo

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-25 Thread Phbjr
OK, as I see it there are several choices: FAN DIRECTION: Draw air out of the unit. (No real choice there) FAN LOCATION: T-4X - Top *OR* back. Back may have a slight advantage of a "cleaner" air flow (less turbulence). Also, fan can be attached directly to rear cage and so is "always

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-25 Thread Don Cunningham
Paul, My personal preference is to put one fan over the T4X (T4XB, XC, etc) AND one over the R4 (whichever variation). Both tend to run hot, and the transformer on the R4 will get VERY hot without the assist. I put foam all around the bottom, forming a good seal and making it pull all its air

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-25 Thread Garey Barrell
Paul - Out the back is fine. You're NOT 'cooling the PA tubes' so much as just getting the heated air out of and away from the cage. UP is perhaps better, although unless you take the transmitter out of the cabinet you're dealing with TWO perforated pieces of metal that do NOT align, so any

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-25 Thread Eugene Balinski
Absolutely. Pulling the air out of the PA from the top is a good way to use the natural convection of the rising hot air in conjunction with the fan. It makes a world of difference. 73, Gene K1NR On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:11:33 -0400 Garey Barrell wrote: > Absolutely!! > > 73, Garey - K4OAH

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-25 Thread Phbjr
That was my thought, too, especially since a fan mounted on the back of the PA cage and blowing in would cool the two PA tubes unequally; e.g., one of the tubes "blocks" the direct air from the fan from reaching the other. And, I think unequal cooling of a 2-tube PA is a rather bad idea (fr

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-25 Thread Garey Barrell
Absolutely!! 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-B, C-Line& TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs Don Cunningham wrote: Suck the hot air out, Paul, don't force it into the PTO and other areas to make drift even worse. The rig was designed for convection to take the hot air out.

Re: [Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-25 Thread Don Cunningham
Suck the hot air out, Paul, don't force it into the PTO and other areas to make drift even worse. The rig was designed for convection to take the hot air out. It will run MUCH cooler pulling the hot air out and as you said, not get so dirty inside. 73, Don, WB5HAK__

[Drakelist] T-4X fan mod

2010-10-25 Thread Phbjr
I found two articles on adding a fan to a T-4X. The first one uses only a diode & capacitor and uses the size of the capacitor to control the amplitude of the half-wave rectified DC voltage. The fan is configured to draw air OUT of the PA enclosure. _http://www.wb4hfn.com/DRAKE/DrakeArti