Re: [Drakelist] TR-4 Crystal Filter

2011-04-09 Thread Paul Gerhardt
Today (and yesterday) I opened the TR-4 filter and replaced all the crystals with unselected DigiKey 50cent crystals. Now the dead filter does pass a signal but is not useful. Good learning fun though and I documented it some on the blog at http://pgerhardt.blogspot.com Ck it out if you want to

Re: [Drakelist] TR-4 Crystal Filter

2011-04-07 Thread Paul Gerhardt
Thanks Garey and Gary for your inputs. I put my points from my rather crude measurements and actually got a somewhat meaningful curve. Next I am going to attempt to open the 'Bad Non X filter' that is marked 2100 L. OK the L IS for LSB but on 40 there IS inversion so the 2100 U(SB) filter is

Re: [Drakelist] TR-4 Crystal Filter

2011-04-06 Thread Paul Gerhardt
I tried a crude measurement on the working 'X' filter marked SSB 9M 2100 U Why does the 'U' filter peak on the low side of the Center Freq? The 'non X' filter will not pass a signal btw it is marked 2100 L If the 'U' and 'L' are for USB and LSB I am guessing that the USB and LSB are only

Re: [Drakelist] TR-4 Crystal Filter [[REVISED]]

2011-04-06 Thread Garey Barrell
Paul - I get myself confused every time I try to explain this... Please delete previous message before I get you confused too!!! ** REVISED Because of the mixing scheme used in the TR-4, the filters are NOT really USB and LSB,

Re: [Drakelist] TR-4 Crystal Filter

2011-04-06 Thread Gary Poland
Paul I have opened several of the filters using a very hot iron and lots of solder wick. I have about 5 or 6 of them. Inside you will find eight crystals and a few disk capacitors. I had planned on trying to take a few bad ones and make a good filter but have yet to try. I suppose a torch

Re: [Drakelist] TR-4 Crystal Filter [[Re-REVISED]]

2011-04-06 Thread Garey Barrell
Paul - I get myself confused every time I try to explain this... I obviously should NOT try this after lunch At least I got the first two sentences correct! :-) Because of the mixing scheme used in the TR-4, the filters are NOT really USB and LSB, but #1 and #2. I know this is

[Drakelist] TR-4 Crystal Filter

2011-01-24 Thread Paul Gerhardt
I have a TR-4 that only works on the X sideband. This unit has blue filters but they do not seem to be Tyco filters mine are made by TEDxxx (cant quite read) Crystal Lab in Ohio they are blue and are numbers 2100U and 2100L. Would a 'Tyco' filter work as a sub? Paul Gerhardt K3PG