Re: [Drakelist] R7 AGC issues

2013-05-12 Thread Dennis Monticelli
I have no experience with the R7 but some experience with AGC loops in general. It is VERY difficult to design a good AGC and many radios get it wrong. For example, designing it for the user's eyes (vs ears) means paying too much attention to the S-meter indication. Using the loop feedback

[Drakelist] R7 AGC issues

2013-05-11 Thread Paul
Have had issues with the R7 AGC in fast mode in that the AGC would go into a low frequency oscillation excited by noise. Looking at the AGC line showed a triangular waveform. This caused distortion on AM and SSB signals. This problem went away when the RF gain control was turned

Re: [Drakelist] R7 AGC issues

2013-05-11 Thread Jim Shorney
Wow, nice detective work Paul! I've had correspondence with John too, but it was mostly about the AGC alignment and the subject of the fast AGC never came up. I would agree with the assessment that it is useless, the poppy-ness on noise alone is just to annoying to put up with, and manual

Re: [Drakelist] R7 AGC issues

2013-05-11 Thread Dieter Horst
Thanks Paul for sharing this! I found the fast AGC on the R7 useless, too. I will try the proposed mod on my R7. @Jim, would you say that the service manual describes the right methode for aligning the AGC? I have had my doubts about it in the past, mostly because 'fast' would always create

Re: [Drakelist] R7 AGC issues

2013-05-11 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 11 May 2013 22:52:57 +0200, Dieter Horst wrote: @Jim, would you say that the service manual describes the right methode for aligning the AGC? I have had my doubts about it in the past, mostly because 'fast' would always create trouble. Yes. In my discussions with John, he told me that