Re: [DRBD-user] DRBD over ZFS - or the other way around?

2017-08-18 Thread Gionatan Danti
Il 18-08-2017 17:22 Veit Wahlich ha scritto: Yes, I regard qemu -> DRBD -> volume management [-> RAID] -> disk the most recommendable solution for this scenario. I personally go with LVM thinp for volume management, but ZVOLs should do the trick, too. With named ressources (named after VMs)

Re: [DRBD-user] DRBD over ZFS - or the other way around?

2017-08-18 Thread Gionatan Danti
Il 18-08-2017 17:09 Yannis Milios ha scritto: Personally I'm using option (a) on a 3 node proxmox cluster and drbd9. Replica count per VM is 2 and all 3 nodes act as both drbd control volumes and satellite nodes.I can live migrate VM between all nodes and snapshot them by using drbdmanage

Re: [DRBD-user] DRBD over ZFS - or the other way around?

2017-08-18 Thread Veit Wahlich
Am Freitag, den 18.08.2017, 15:46 +0200 schrieb Gionatan Danti: > Il 18-08-2017 14:40 Veit Wahlich ha scritto: > > VM live migration requires primary/primary configuration of the DRBD > > ressource accessed by the VM, but only during migration. The ressource > > can be reconfigured for

Re: [DRBD-user] DRBD over ZFS - or the other way around?

2017-08-18 Thread Yannis Milios
Hello, Personally I'm using option (a) on a 3 node proxmox cluster and drbd9. Replica count per VM is 2 and all 3 nodes act as both drbd control volumes and satellite nodes.I can live migrate VM between all nodes and snapshot them by using drbdmanage utility (which is using zfs snapshot+clones).

Re: [DRBD-user] DRBD over ZFS - or the other way around?

2017-08-18 Thread Gionatan Danti
Il 18-08-2017 14:40 Veit Wahlich ha scritto: To clarify: Am Freitag, den 18.08.2017, 14:34 +0200 schrieb Veit Wahlich: hosts simultaniously, enables VM live migration and your hosts may even VM live migration requires primary/primary configuration of the DRBD ressource accessed by the VM,

Re: [DRBD-user] DRBD over ZFS - or the other way around?

2017-08-18 Thread Veit Wahlich
To clarify: Am Freitag, den 18.08.2017, 14:34 +0200 schrieb Veit Wahlich: > hosts simultaniously, enables VM live migration and your hosts may even VM live migration requires primary/primary configuration of the DRBD ressource accessed by the VM, but only during migration. The ressource can be

Re: [DRBD-user] DRBD over ZFS - or the other way around?

2017-08-18 Thread Veit Wahlich
Hi, Am Freitag, den 18.08.2017, 14:16 +0200 schrieb Gionatan Danti: > Hi, I plan to use a primary/secondary setup, with manual failover. > In other words, split brain should not be possible at all. > > Thanks. having one DRBD ressource per VM also allows you to run VMs on both hosts

Re: [DRBD-user] DRBD over ZFS - or the other way around?

2017-08-18 Thread Gionatan Danti
Il 18-08-2017 12:58 Julien Escario ha scritto: If you design with a signle big ressource, a simple split brain and you're screwed. Julien Hi, I plan to use a primary/secondary setup, with manual failover. In other words, split brain should not be possible at all. Thanks. -- Danti Gionatan

Re: [DRBD-user] DRBD over ZFS - or the other way around?

2017-08-18 Thread Julien Escario
Le 17/08/2017 à 16:48, Gionatan Danti a écrit : > Hi list, > I am discussing how to have a replicated ZFS setup on the ZoL mailing list, > and > DRBD is obviously on the radar ;) > > It seems that three possibilities exist: > > a) DRBD over ZVOLs (with one DRBD resource per ZVOL); > b) ZFS over