Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-17 Thread Jason Ekstrand
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:14 AM Keith Packard wrote: > Jason Ekstrand writes: > > > Doing all of the CPU sampling on one side or the other of the GPU > sampling > > would probably reduce our window. > > True, although as I said, it's taking several µs to get through the > loop, and the gpu

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Keith Packard
Jason Ekstrand writes: > Doing all of the CPU sampling on one side or the other of the GPU sampling > would probably reduce our window. True, although as I said, it's taking several µs to get through the loop, and the gpu clock tick is far smaller than that, so even adding the two values

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Keith Packard
Jason Ekstrand writes: > The result is that we're looking at something like "end - start + > monotonic_raw_tick + max(gpu_tick, monotonic_tick)" Have I just come > full-circle? Yes. As monotonic_raw_tick and monotonic_tick are both 1... -- -keith signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Jason Ekstrand
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 5:56 PM Keith Packard wrote: > Bas Nieuwenhuizen writes: > > > You can make the monotonic case the same as the raw case if you make > > sure to always sample the CPU first by e.g. splitting the loops into > > two and doing CPU in the first and GPU in the second. That way

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Jason Ekstrand
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 5:06 PM Keith Packard wrote: > Bas Nieuwenhuizen writes: > > > Well the complication here is that in the MONOTONIC (not > > MONOTONIC_RAW) case the CPU measurement can happen at the end of the > > MONOTONIC_RAW interval (as the order of measurements is based on > >

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Keith Packard
Bas Nieuwenhuizen writes: > You can make the monotonic case the same as the raw case if you make > sure to always sample the CPU first by e.g. splitting the loops into > two and doing CPU in the first and GPU in the second. That way you > make the case above impossible. Right, I had thought of

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Bas Nieuwenhuizen
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:06 AM Keith Packard wrote: > > Bas Nieuwenhuizen writes: > > > Well the complication here is that in the MONOTONIC (not > > MONOTONIC_RAW) case the CPU measurement can happen at the end of the > > MONOTONIC_RAW interval (as the order of measurements is based on > >

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Keith Packard
Bas Nieuwenhuizen writes: > Well the complication here is that in the MONOTONIC (not > MONOTONIC_RAW) case the CPU measurement can happen at the end of the > MONOTONIC_RAW interval (as the order of measurements is based on > argument order), so you can get a tick that started `period` (5 in >

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Keith Packard
Jason Ekstrand writes: > You've got me almost convinced as well. Thanks for the diagrams! I think > instead of adding 1 perhaps what we want is > > max2(sample_interval_ns, gpu_tick_ns + monotonic_tick_ns) > > Where monotonic_tick_ns is maybe as low as 1. Am I following you correctly? Not

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Bas Nieuwenhuizen
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:07 PM Keith Packard wrote: > > Jason Ekstrand writes: > > > I think what Bas is getting at is that there are two problems: > > > > 1) We are not sampling at exactly the same time > > 2) The two clocks may not tick at exactly the same time. > > Thanks for the

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Jason Ekstrand
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:07 PM Keith Packard wrote: > Jason Ekstrand writes: > > > I think what Bas is getting at is that there are two problems: > > > > 1) We are not sampling at exactly the same time > > 2) The two clocks may not tick at exactly the same time. > > Thanks for the

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Keith Packard
Jason Ekstrand writes: > I think what Bas is getting at is that there are two problems: > > 1) We are not sampling at exactly the same time > 2) The two clocks may not tick at exactly the same time. Thanks for the clarification. > If we want to be conservative, I suspect Bas may be right

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Jason Ekstrand
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:35 PM Keith Packard wrote: > Bas Nieuwenhuizen writes: > > >> + end = radv_clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW); > >> + > >> + uint64_t clock_period = end - begin; > >> + uint64_t device_period = DIV_ROUND_UP(100, > clock_crystal_freq); > >> + > >>

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Keith Packard
Bas Nieuwenhuizen writes: >> + end = radv_clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW); >> + >> + uint64_t clock_period = end - begin; >> + uint64_t device_period = DIV_ROUND_UP(100, clock_crystal_freq); >> + >> + *pMaxDeviation = MAX2(clock_period, device_period); > > Should

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Bas Nieuwenhuizen
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:31 AM Keith Packard wrote: > > Offers three clocks, device, clock monotonic and clock monotonic > raw. Could use some kernel support to reduce the deviation between > clock values. > > v2: > Ensure deviation is at least as big as the GPU time interval. > > v3: >

Re: [PATCH] vulkan: Add VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps extension (radv and anv) [v4]

2018-10-16 Thread Samuel Pitoiset
The RADV bits are: Reviewed-by: Samuel Pitoiset Thanks! On 10/16/18 7:31 AM, Keith Packard wrote: Offers three clocks, device, clock monotonic and clock monotonic raw. Could use some kernel support to reduce the deviation between clock values. v2: Ensure deviation is at least as big