[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller->ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.kernel.org
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58521





--- Comment #10 from Guram Savinov   2013-05-20 
14:48:17 ---
>>@Guram: what about ACPI? Did you investigate why Linux doesn't export thermal
info from it?

Maybe Asus M50Sa laptop have no hardware ACPI thermal sensors.
If it exist I think Asus include any monitor software tool with laptop CD's.

99% that ATI internal sensor only one way to get GPU themperature.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller->ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.kernel.org
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58521


Rafa? Mi?ecki  changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Rafa? Mi?ecki   2013-05-20 14:05:32 ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> I'd prefer not to.  These sort of options tend to be abused.  Users and
> possibly some distros will start forcing the option on, and then we'll get
> swamped with bug reports about garbage temperatures where the reporter will
> fail to note that they forced the option on.

Sounds sane.

@Guram: what about ACPI? Did you investigate why Linux doesn't export thermal
info from it?

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller->ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.kernel.org
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58521





--- Comment #8 from Alex Deucher   2013-05-20 
13:59:06 ---
I'd prefer not to.  These sort of options tend to be abused.  Users and
possibly some distros will start forcing the option on, and then we'll get
swamped with bug reports about garbage temperatures where the reporter will
fail to note that they forced the option on.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller->ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.kernel.org
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58521





--- Comment #7 from Guram Savinov   2013-05-20 
13:52:21 ---
Ok, but how about comment#4, is it possible?

By default sensor will be initialized as it implemented now, but it will be
possible to override OEM configuration that disable internal sensor.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller->ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.kernel.org
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58521





--- Comment #6 from Alex Deucher   2013-05-20 
13:47:01 ---
The OEM designs the thermal solution for the laptop.  If they choose not to use
the internal thermal sensor, there is no guarantee that it's calibrated
correctly for their specific system.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller->ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.kernel.org
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58521





--- Comment #5 from Guram Savinov   2013-05-20 
13:38:48 ---
>>It might produce garbage results depending on the thermal solution from the
OEM.

OEM? I talk about ATI on-chip thermal sensor, it's not OEM, right?

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller->ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.kernel.org
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58521





--- Comment #4 from Guram Savinov   2013-05-20 
13:32:03 ---
Is it possible to implement force enabling internal sensor configuration by
conf file?
Because OEM's disable thermal sensor info in AtomBIOS we haven't sensor for
GPU.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller->ucType for RV635 chip

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--- Comment #3 from Alex Deucher   2013-05-20 
13:22:00 ---
It might produce garbage results depending on the thermal solution from the
OEM.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller->ucType for RV635 chip

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https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58521





--- Comment #2 from Guram Savinov   2013-05-20 
13:11:13 ---
In this case it will be better to setup internal thermal sensor without
checking AtomBIOS thermal sensor info value, isn't it?

It's no a lot chanses to have acpi sensors support in linux kernel.
I think if we know that chip have internal sensor, we should setup it.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller->ucType for RV635 chip

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https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58521


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--- Comment #1 from Alex Deucher   2013-05-20 
13:02:30 ---
A lot of laptop OEMs don't use the internal thermal sensor.  In most cases they
use a platform specific thermal sensor since they often cover multiple
components with the same thermal zone.  It's usually exposed via a platform
specific acpi thermal zone or acpi temperature sensor.  It's not a bios bug;
very few r6xx/r7xx laptops expose the internal thermal sensor.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller->ucType for RV635 chip

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https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58521


Guram Savinov  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong |Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong
   |value in controller->ucType |value in controller->ucType
   |for RV635   |for RV635 chip




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Guram Savinov  changed:

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller-ucType for RV635

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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   Platform|All |x86-64




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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller-ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58521


Guram Savinov guram.savi...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong |Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong
   |value in controller-ucType |value in controller-ucType
   |for RV635   |for RV635 chip




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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller-ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com  2013-05-20 13:02:30 
---
A lot of laptop OEMs don't use the internal thermal sensor.  In most cases they
use a platform specific thermal sensor since they often cover multiple
components with the same thermal zone.  It's usually exposed via a platform
specific acpi thermal zone or acpi temperature sensor.  It's not a bios bug;
very few r6xx/r7xx laptops expose the internal thermal sensor.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller-ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Guram Savinov guram.savi...@gmail.com  2013-05-20 
13:11:13 ---
In this case it will be better to setup internal thermal sensor without
checking AtomBIOS thermal sensor info value, isn't it?

It's no a lot chanses to have acpi sensors support in linux kernel.
I think if we know that chip have internal sensor, we should setup it.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller-ucType for RV635 chip

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--- Comment #3 from Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com  2013-05-20 13:22:00 
---
It might produce garbage results depending on the thermal solution from the
OEM.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller-ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Guram Savinov guram.savi...@gmail.com  2013-05-20 
13:32:03 ---
Is it possible to implement force enabling internal sensor configuration by
conf file?
Because OEM's disable thermal sensor info in AtomBIOS we haven't sensor for
GPU.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller-ucType for RV635 chip

2013-05-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Guram Savinov guram.savi...@gmail.com  2013-05-20 
13:38:48 ---
It might produce garbage results depending on the thermal solution from the
OEM.

OEM? I talk about ATI on-chip thermal sensor, it's not OEM, right?

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller-ucType for RV635 chip

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--- Comment #6 from Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com  2013-05-20 13:47:01 
---
The OEM designs the thermal solution for the laptop.  If they choose not to use
the internal thermal sensor, there is no guarantee that it's calibrated
correctly for their specific system.

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--- Comment #7 from Guram Savinov guram.savi...@gmail.com  2013-05-20 
13:52:21 ---
Ok, but how about comment#4, is it possible?

By default sensor will be initialized as it implemented now, but it will be
possible to override OEM configuration that disable internal sensor.

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--- Comment #8 from Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com  2013-05-20 13:59:06 
---
I'd prefer not to.  These sort of options tend to be abused.  Users and
possibly some distros will start forcing the option on, and then we'll get
swamped with bug reports about garbage temperatures where the reporter will
fail to note that they forced the option on.

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[Bug 58521] Radeon ATOM BIOS have wrong value in controller-ucType for RV635 chip

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--- Comment #9 from Rafał Miłecki zaj...@gmail.com  2013-05-20 14:05:32 ---
(In reply to comment #8)
 I'd prefer not to.  These sort of options tend to be abused.  Users and
 possibly some distros will start forcing the option on, and then we'll get
 swamped with bug reports about garbage temperatures where the reporter will
 fail to note that they forced the option on.

Sounds sane.

@Guram: what about ACPI? Did you investigate why Linux doesn't export thermal
info from it?

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--- Comment #10 from Guram Savinov guram.savi...@gmail.com  2013-05-20 
14:48:17 ---
@Guram: what about ACPI? Did you investigate why Linux doesn't export thermal
info from it?

Maybe Asus M50Sa laptop have no hardware ACPI thermal sensors.
If it exist I think Asus include any monitor software tool with laptop CD's.

99% that ATI internal sensor only one way to get GPU themperature.

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