[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2015-02-06 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 Bug 73320 depends on bug 75276, which changed state. Bug 75276 Summary: Implement VGPR Register Spilling https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75276 What|Removed |Added ---

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-17 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 Tom Stellard changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|---

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-16 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #50 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- This patch on top of llvm git master makes Antichamber segfault with the following backtrace: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0xf5054dd3 in std::pair::operator=

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-16 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #49 from Tom Stellard --- Can you try this LLVM patch: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=99169 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. -- next part -- An HTML a

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-11 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #48 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- (In reply to comment #47) > Ok, thank you for clarification. I know, that such statements doesn't really > help to solve problems in any way, but my system doesn't crash or freeze and

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-11 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #47 from filipp.andjelo at gmail.com --- Ok, thank you for clarification. I know, that such statements doesn't really help to solve problems in any way, but my system doesn't crash or freeze and I also not see any messages, that the VG

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-11 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #46 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- (In reply to comment #45) > Thank you very much for your help farmboy0. I was able to build and run > everything as you mentioned. First of all, my systems doesn't hang as you > descr

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-10 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #45 from filipp.andjelo at gmail.com --- Thank you very much for your help farmboy0. I was able to build and run everything as you mentioned. First of all, my systems doesn't hang as you describe in Comment 21, all the games are (kind

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-09 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #44 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- Hres a short howto that I use to test this stuff: Build llvm from a repo: (change the prefix to where you want the have this installed, the configure is setup for a 32bit build to te

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-09 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #43 from filipp.andjelo at gmail.com --- Hi, I still would like to help. Can somebody post a short howto build everything to test the patched code? I'd like to know, what is required aside of LLVM and Mesa? Where can I see some logs ab

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-04 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #42 from filipp.andjelo at gmail.com --- I just can't get it running. LLVM + mesa is compiled, but as far as I install and restart it, my system falls back to swrast and that's all as I said, I'm not familiar with mesa/llvm develop

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-04 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #41 from filipp.andjelo at gmail.com --- Hi Damian, unfortunately, I didn't have enough time to build appropriate packages. I built patched LLVM manually and modified mesa package from Arch repository to use my LLVM. Nevertheless, it

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-05-03 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #40 from Damian Nowak --- I confirm this bug is a case for me on Radeon 7870 and Xonotic with highest details only. High details run fine. Using Arch Linux (mesa 10.1.1, llvm 3.4). @filipp.andjelo at gmail.com Since you are using Arc

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-30 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #39 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- I've double and triple checked to make sure I am making no mistake but the behaviour I see with Antichamber and the v2 and v3 branches is the same as reported in comment 21. -- You

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-30 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #38 from Tom Stellard --- (In reply to comment #37) > Hi, > > I'm new to this and doing something wrong. Do I need to compile the patched > LLVM and the latest Mesa from git? Or is it sufficient to recompile Mesa > 10.1 also not

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-30 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #37 from filipp.andjelo at gmail.com --- Hi, I'm new to this and doing something wrong. Do I need to compile the patched LLVM and the latest Mesa from git? Or is it sufficient to recompile Mesa 10.1 also not quite sure, how to for

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-29 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #36 from Tom Stellard --- Updated v3 branch here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~tstellar/llvm/log/?h=si-spill-fixes-v3 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. -- next part --

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-28 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #35 from Tom Stellard --- Can you test this branch: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~tstellar/llvm/log/?h=si-spill-fixes-v2 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. -- next part -

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-28 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #34 from filipp.andjelo at gmail.com --- Unfortunately, most of the games are affected by this bug. I'm running on HD7850 and get this error on Metro, Serious Sam 3, Xonotic (with Ultra settings), whole bunch of games on Wine (tested w

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #33 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0xf4ba33e1 in llvm::SIInstrInfo::copyPhysReg (this=0x43f6b140, MBB=..., MI=..., DL=..., DestReg=0, SrcReg=106, KillSrc=true) a

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #32 from Tom Stellard --- (In reply to comment #31) > LLVM triggered Diagnostic Handler: SIInstrInfo::storeRegToStackSlot - Can't > spill VGPR! > > ./Antichamber.sh: line 3: 3074 Segmentation fault ./UDKGame-Linux $@ > > Crash

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #31 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- LLVM triggered Diagnostic Handler: SIInstrInfo::storeRegToStackSlot - Can't spill VGPR! ./Antichamber.sh: line 3: 3074 Segmentation fault ./UDKGame-Linux $@ Crash is gone. --

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 Tom Stellard changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #97522|0 |1 is obsolete|

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #29 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- Patch doesnt compile: SIInstrInfo.cpp:198:41: error: invalid use of incomplete type ?const class llvm::Function? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 Tom Stellard changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #97521|0 |1 is obsolete|

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #27 from Tom Stellard --- Created attachment 97521 --> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=97521&action=edit Work around for crash Hi can you try this LLVM patch. You will need to apply it on top of the very latest LLVM

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-03 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #26 from Jakob Nixdorf --- Like I said in my last comment, with your branch the GPU locks up after a (very) short while. I don't have time at the moment (final exams), but I will try to debug it as soon as I get the time (maybe in 4 w

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-03 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #25 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- (In reply to comment #24) > DId yo(In reply to comment #21) > > I amanaged to build llvm and mesa. > > > > Here's my test results: > > As for both wine applications 3D Mark 2000 and

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-03 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #24 from Tom Stellard --- DId yo(In reply to comment #21) > I amanaged to build llvm and mesa. > > Here's my test results: > As for both wine applications 3D Mark 2000 and Syberia, the error is gone > and both applications continue p

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-04-03 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #23 from Sean Rhone --- (In reply to comment #22) > I'm also getting this same error when trying to run Diablo III: Reaper of > Souls via Wine. My setup is identical to ubu's with the only differences > being that I'm using Netrunner

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-03-29 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #22 from rainyday26 at gmail.com --- I'm also getting this same error when trying to run Diablo III: Reaper of Souls via Wine. My setup is identical to ubu's with the only differences being that I'm using Netrunner (KDE) and that my gr

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-03-06 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #21 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- I amanaged to build llvm and mesa. Here's my test results: As for both wine applications 3D Mark 2000 and Syberia, the error is gone and both applications continue past normally. Bu

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-03-05 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #20 from Tom Stellard --- You don't need clang for graphics, so you can remove it from the tools directory. If you do want to build clang for some reason you need to make sure your checkout of clang is from roughly the same date and

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-03-05 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #19 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- (In reply to comment #17) > Can you try this branch: > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~tstellar/llvm/log/?h=si-spill-fixes I cannot compile your repo with current clang git repo chec

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-03-04 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #18 from Jakob Nixdorf --- On the first try the game didn't crash immediately but caused a GPU lockup before the title-screen appeared. I will try to debug it later today. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-03-03 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #17 from Tom Stellard --- Can you try this branch: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~tstellar/llvm/log/?h=si-spill-fixes -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. -- next part -- A

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-03-02 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #16 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- The patch doesnt apply cleanly to llvm 3.4 nor to the git master of llvm. I also had trouble rebuilding mesa git master when I switched to llvm git master to try without the patch fir

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-03-02 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #15 from Dan Ziemba --- (In reply to comment #11) > Can you try this patch: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=94675 I didn't try this patch, but I did build LLVM from svn (202114) and mesa from git (61630). Also upgrade

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-02-27 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #14 from Jakob Nixdorf --- This is the log for the patched LLVM (SVN) with R600_DEBUG=ps,vs enabled: http://shadowice.org/~flocke/linux/misc/ADVGame_R600_DEBUG_patched.log -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-02-26 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #13 from Tom Stellard --- (In reply to comment #12) > I tried your patch with the newest SVN version of LLVM but got a different > error (http://shadowice.org/~flocke/linux/misc/ADVGame_crash_backtrace.log). > > Can I safely apply yo

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-02-25 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #12 from Jakob Nixdorf --- I tried your patch with the newest SVN version of LLVM but got a different error (http://shadowice.org/~flocke/linux/misc/ADVGame_crash_backtrace.log). Can I safely apply your patch to LLVM 3.4 to find out

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-02-24 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #11 from Tom Stellard --- Can you try this patch: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=94675 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. -- next part -- An HTML attachm

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-02-22 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #10 from shadedarkken at gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #8) > Same "LLVM ERROR: ran out of registers during register allocation" here when > running Brutal Legend from Steam. The crash doesn't happen until part way > through the l

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-02-22 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #9 from Dan Ziemba --- Sorry, that was kernel 3.12.6, not 3.13.6 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-02-22 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #8 from Dan Ziemba --- Same "LLVM ERROR: ran out of registers during register allocation" here when running Brutal Legend from Steam. The crash doesn't happen until part way through the loading screen when loading a save. Works fine

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-02-20 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 Tom Stellard changed: What|Removed |Added Depends on||75276 -- You are receiving this mail bec

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #7 from farmboy0+freedesktop at googlemail.com --- I am getting the same error with LLVM 3.4, Mesa Git and using radeonsi when I try running 3D Mark 2000 under wine. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for th

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-01-31 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #6 from Leszek Godlewski --- I will gladly provide free Steam keys for both Painkiller Hell & Damnation and Deadfall Adventures for developers who step up and try to tackle this! Just shoot me an email at the address I'm posting this

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-01-23 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #5 from ubu --- sorry, i thought steam info would've listed my model gpu but i notice now it didn't. I have an XFX HD7770 Black Edition -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. -- next pa

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-01-23 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #4 from ubu --- I'm experiencing the same crash but with Deadfall Adventures. A Farm51 and Nordic games are the same people who made PKHD. I have the entire terminal output from launching the game here: http://pastebin.com/5GqDnYjQ I

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-01-13 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #3 from Jakob Nixdorf --- I'm using the release version of LLVM 3.4 and ran the game with your debug option: 'R600_DEBUG=ps,vs ./ADVGame.sh > ADVGame_R600_DEBUG.log 1>&2' Since I could not upload the file here (to big) I stored it o

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-01-13 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #2 from Tom Stellard --- Are you using the released version of LLVM 3.4 or an older git snapshot? If you are using the released version of LLVM 3.4, can you run the game with the environment variable: R600_DEBUG=ps,vs and post the ou

[Bug 73320] [radeonsi] LLVM runs out of registers during register allocation in Painkiller Hell & Damnation

2014-01-13 Thread bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73320 --- Comment #1 from Jakob Nixdorf --- I can confirm the same error with Deadfall Adventures on the current git version of Mesa with LLVM 3.4. The error is the same, I will try to provide a backtrace later today and maybe Leszek can also get his