Re: [Dspam-user] Adding a feature
On 12/04/14 12:38, Stevan Bajić wrote: > you could try to delete their whitelist token in your storage backend or > bump their innocent counter. When I look at my instance and check for > your name then I have this: Zeroing the spam_hits for one of the two users APPEARS to have worked. Observing to make sure... :) -- Phil Stracchino Babylon Communications ph...@caerllewys.net p...@co.ordinate.org Landline: 603.293.8485 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Dspam-user mailing list Dspam-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspam-user
Re: [Dspam-user] Adding a feature
On 04.12.2014 18:04, Phil Stracchino wrote: > On 12/04/14 11:03, Stevan Bajić wrote: >> Hello Phil, >> >> DSPAM does not whitelist a sender but instead adds a special token with >> the whole FROM line. >> So "From: ste...@bajic.ch" will be translated to "From*ste...@bajic.ch". >> The problem with a whitelisting functionality in the WebUI is that the >> from line could be: >> From: "Stevan Bajić"-> Token: From*"Stevan Bajić" >> >> From: ste...@bajic.ch -> Token: From*ste...@bajic.ch >> From: -> Token: From* >> and and and >> >> To make the manual whitelisting work, you would need to weaken the >> current mechanism and normalize the sender address and add that >> normalized sender address as a whitelist token to the storage engine. >> Then you could add a whitelist functionality to the WebUI. But with the >> current whitelisting functionality adding a option to whitelist one >> email address is practically pointless. >> >> Usually the whitelist threshold is 10. If you want your DSPAM instance >> to whitelist faster, then try lowering the whitelistThreshold preference. > Stevan, > I considered just lowering the threshold. The problem I'm trying to > solve is that I have two specific senders whom Dspam *almost always* > misclassifies as spam, so the sender never gets the chance to reach the > whitelisting threshold before another misclassification resets the > counter. And retraining missed messages does not appear to count > towards satisfying the whitelist threshold. > > Hello Phi, you could try to delete their whitelist token in your storage backend or bump their innocent counter. When I look at my instance and check for your name then I have this: hermes ~ # dspam_dump ste...@bajic.ch "From*Phil Stracchino " 4102437411936826873 S: 0 I: 3 P: 0.4000 hermes ~ # So far I got 3 times a innocent hit and none spam hit. My whitelistThreshold is 10: hermes ~ # dspam_admin aggregate preference ste...@bajic.ch | grep whitelistThreshold whitelistThreshold=10 hermes ~ # So far you are not whitelisted but I could go and change in my storage backend the token to be over 10: mysql> select * from dspam_token_data where uid=4 and token=4102437411936826873; +-+-+---+---++ | uid | token | spam_hits | innocent_hits | last_hit | +-+-+---+---++ | 4 | 4102437411936826873 | 0 | 3 | 2014-12-04 | +-+-+---+---++ 1 row in set (0.00 sec) mysql> Let's change it to 30: mysql> update dspam_token_data set innocent_hits=30 where uid=4 and token=4102437411936826873; Query OK, 1 row affected (0.01 sec) Rows matched: 1 Changed: 1 Warnings: 0 mysql> Let's check on the command line with dspam_dump: hermes ~ # dspam_dump ste...@bajic.ch "From*Phil Stracchino " 4102437411936826873 S: 0 I: 00030 P: 0.0100 hermes ~ # Bingo :) -- Kind Regards from Switzerland, Stevan Bajić -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Dspam-user mailing list Dspam-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspam-user
Re: [Dspam-user] Adding a feature
On 12/04/14 11:03, Stevan Bajić wrote: > Hello Phil, > > DSPAM does not whitelist a sender but instead adds a special token with > the whole FROM line. > So "From: ste...@bajic.ch" will be translated to "From*ste...@bajic.ch". > The problem with a whitelisting functionality in the WebUI is that the > from line could be: > From: "Stevan Bajić"-> Token: From*"Stevan Bajić" > > From: ste...@bajic.ch -> Token: From*ste...@bajic.ch > From: -> Token: From* > and and and > > To make the manual whitelisting work, you would need to weaken the > current mechanism and normalize the sender address and add that > normalized sender address as a whitelist token to the storage engine. > Then you could add a whitelist functionality to the WebUI. But with the > current whitelisting functionality adding a option to whitelist one > email address is practically pointless. > > Usually the whitelist threshold is 10. If you want your DSPAM instance > to whitelist faster, then try lowering the whitelistThreshold preference. Stevan, I considered just lowering the threshold. The problem I'm trying to solve is that I have two specific senders whom Dspam *almost always* misclassifies as spam, so the sender never gets the chance to reach the whitelisting threshold before another misclassification resets the counter. And retraining missed messages does not appear to count towards satisfying the whitelist threshold. -- Phil Stracchino Babylon Communications ph...@caerllewys.net p...@co.ordinate.org Landline: 603.293.8485 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Dspam-user mailing list Dspam-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspam-user
Re: [Dspam-user] Adding a feature
Hello Phil, DSPAM does not whitelist a sender but instead adds a special token with the whole FROM line. So "From: ste...@bajic.ch" will be translated to "From*ste...@bajic.ch". The problem with a whitelisting functionality in the WebUI is that the from line could be: From: "Stevan Bajić"-> Token: From*"Stevan Bajić" From: ste...@bajic.ch -> Token: From*ste...@bajic.ch From: -> Token: From* and and and To make the manual whitelisting work, you would need to weaken the current mechanism and normalize the sender address and add that normalized sender address as a whitelist token to the storage engine. Then you could add a whitelist functionality to the WebUI. But with the current whitelisting functionality adding a option to whitelist one email address is practically pointless. Usually the whitelist threshold is 10. If you want your DSPAM instance to whitelist faster, then try lowering the whitelistThreshold preference. -- Kind Regards from Switzerland, Stevan Bajić On 04.12.2014 16:20, Phil Stracchino wrote: > On the subject of Dspam and its status ... I've wished for a long time > for a feature to manually whitelist a sender via the web interface. I'm > starting to look at the code to see if i can figure out how to implement > this, but I'd appreciate it if someone with a good level of familiarity > with the codebase and how DSpam works internally would contact me and > perhaps give some advice on a general approach of how it *should* best > be implemented. I'd like to implement a good and solid feature, not a > "this looks like it ought to work" hack. > > -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Dspam-user mailing list Dspam-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspam-user
Re: [Dspam-user] Adding a feature
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 10:20:45AM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: > On the subject of Dspam and its status ... I've wished for a long time > for a feature to manually whitelist a sender via the web interface. I'm > starting to look at the code to see if i can figure out how to implement > this, but I'd appreciate it if someone with a good level of familiarity > with the codebase and how DSpam works internally would contact me and > perhaps give some advice on a general approach of how it *should* best > be implemented. I'd like to implement a good and solid feature, not a > "this looks like it ought to work" hack. > > > -- > Phil Stracchino > Babylon Communications > ph...@caerllewys.net > p...@co.ordinate.org > Landline: 603.293.8485 > Hi Phil, The whitelist happens when the appropriate token based on the senders entire From: address line is found in the database. It should be relatively simple to do that using the information in the History or Qurantine tabs. Regards, Ken -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Dspam-user mailing list Dspam-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspam-user
