[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-19 Thread vk4tux
> > Kinda. You can't set callsigns without going into programming mode. On RS-92 (I thought was the same format as RS-91) you can enter Your, RPT1 RPT2 & MYCALL callsigns in the ¨select callsign gui¨ fields, with the radio in use - connected, click ok and then use those entries on transmiss

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-18 Thread Nate Duehr
On Mar 18, 2010, at 9:15 PM, Tony Langdon wrote: > The IC91AD can also be remotely controlled, using the RS-91 software > and the appropriate serial cable. Kinda. You can't set callsigns without going into programming mode. I refuse to call it true "remote control" if you can't set the calls

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-18 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:53 PM 3/18/2010, you wrote: >The ID-1 has remote capabilities via USB, the buggy software is included >with it. BTW, anyone know if they ever updated it? Can't seem to find it on >Icom's site. The IC91AD can also be remotely controlled, using the RS-91 software and the appropriate serial c

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-18 Thread Gary Lindtner
"The Open Source "hamlib" library is available and covers tons of radios that have remote *operations* capabilities also, something Icom doesn't provide on any of the D-STAR rigs, even though it's a common standard on their HF rigs, and has been for many years. " The ID-1 has remote capabilities v

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-18 Thread Gary Lindtner
unspent. Gary KB2BSL From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of J. Moen Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:36 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment Yes, Kenwood has rebranded an

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-18 Thread Gary Pearce KN4AQ
At 07:43 PM 3/17/2010, Tony Langdon wrote: I think the way memories currently work is wrong. To me, you need to be able to specify the frequency independently of the callsigns That's pretty much what DR Mode lets you do in the ID-880 mobile (and I assume the IC-80 HT). It's confusing to learn,

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-18 Thread Nate Duehr
On Mar 17, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: > 1 In the interest of full disclosure. If you kerchunk and set the one-touch, > you will be able to talk, but the RPT2 gateway will not be set. If you hit > the one touch while someone else is talking, the RPT2 gateway will get set. > If the RP

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-18 Thread Nate Duehr
On Mar 17, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: > Kenwood’s and Icom’s commercial digital product is based upon D-STAR. > Not picking on you Ed, but they're not even close to the same thing. It's FDMA, capable of two different channel widths, and is using the AMBE+2 VOCODER, for starters.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-17 Thread J. Moen
: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:12 PM Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment Let's get some details correct. Icom is NOT the only manufacturer of D-STAR radios. Before the JARL would ratify the protocol, there had to be two manufacturers. Kenwood is the other manufacturer

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-17 Thread Woodrick, Ed
PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 12:30 -0700, J. Moen wrote: The one thing I hate is using memories to do everything. Go to a new area and you've got to program new memories. Ever see one of Mark'

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-17 Thread Woodrick, Ed
ood's and Icom's commercial digital product is based upon D-STAR. From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of J. Moen Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:31 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STA

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment (Was: Looking for DSTAR MAP)

2010-03-17 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:11 AM 3/18/2010, you wrote: > > It is a question of the G2 network at this point, there is a lot > of politics going on about who and what can connect, but the technology > exists. > >Maybe that's what I was trying to say. :) Politics is definitely a bigger barrier than technology at this

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-17 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:40 AM 3/18/2010, you wrote: >The one thing I hate is using memories to do everything. Go to a new >area and you've got to program new memories. Ever see one of Mark's , >KJ4VO, files? He has everything in there. I get confused just looking >at one. I think the way memories currently wor

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment (Was: Looking for DSTAR MAP)

2010-03-17 Thread john_ke5c
> It is a question of the G2 network at this point, there is a lot of politics > going on about who and what can connect, but the technology exists. Maybe that's what I was trying to say. :) Well, next up is a node adapter of some type. 73--John

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-17 Thread Chris Fowler
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 12:30 -0700, J. Moen wrote: > > Longer term, Kenwood's business model is to focus on products with a > reasonable margin, and they are not interested in entering a new > market and seeing a price war that would reduce traditional margins. > > So in the meantime, Kenwood

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-17 Thread J. Moen
t look to me like that's going to happen, and that ICOM is largely being successful in making DStar an important amateur radio technology. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: kn4aq To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: [DS

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-17 Thread John Hays
On Mar 17, 2010, at 11:45 AM, kn4aq wrote: For the record, P25 uses DVSI's "IMBE" vocoder. It's similar to the AMBE used in D-STAR, but not identical. See page 81-82 of this document: http://www.p25.com/resources/P25TrainingGuide.pdf (Phase 2 uses AMBE+2) John D. Hays Amateur Radi

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-17 Thread kn4aq
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "Ted Wrobel" wrote: > Hi Folks, > > The codec used is the one defined by the D-STAR spec. It is the DVSI AMBE > codec and is, I am told, the same as that used in P25 systems. For the record, P25 uses DVSI's "IMBE" vocoder. It's similar to the AMBE used

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment (Was: Looking for DSTAR MAP)

2010-03-17 Thread John Hays
John, But you can do all of those things today with non-Icom projects. It is a question of the G2 network at this point, there is a lot of politics going on about who and what can connect, but the technology exists. One example - http://k7ve.org/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=vie

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment (Was: Looking for DSTAR MAP)

2010-03-17 Thread Ted Wrobel
ll jump in. 73 Ted W1GRI _ From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john_ke5c Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 13:47 To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment (Was: Looking for DSTAR MA

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment (Was: Looking for DSTAR MAP)

2010-03-17 Thread john_ke5c
> Chris Fowler wrote: > > > Has ICOM extended the spec so that Yaesu can not make a compliant radio? > > Yes, the codec is locked down but I don't see what would prevent Alinco > > from making a HT that can talk to an ICOM repeater. > > > John D. Hays wrote: > Anyone can make a D-STAR air protoc