Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] US D-STAR band planning and directories (Was: No DSTAR in South Carolina or Georgia?)

2010-05-05 Thread John Hays
bruce mallon wrote: 146.52 is what on the ARRL band plan back almost 40 years ? Your point? The national calling frequency could just as easily be 145.52 mhz. or 145.51 mhz. -- there's nothing magical about 146.52 -- its just a frequency, that happens to sit right in the middle of the

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] US D-STAR band planning and directories (Was: No DSTAR in South Carolina or Georgia?)

2010-05-05 Thread Jay Maynard
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 09:34:19PM -0700, bruce mallon wrote: 146.52 is what on the ARRL band plan back almost 40 years ? The ARRL's not the authority when it comes to band plans. Your local coordinating body is. Now lets get the repeater groups to clean up what is already being used for

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] US D-STAR band planning and directories (Was: No DSTAR in South Carolina or Georgia?)

2010-05-05 Thread Nate Duehr
On 5/4/2010 7:55 PM, John Hays wrote: I totally agree that coordinators need to get their act together and cleanup paper repeaters and even make highest and best use decisions for pairs (open and occupied is higher use than closed and quiet Coordinators are NOT allowed to make this decision,

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] US D-STAR band planning and directories (Was: No DSTAR in South Carolina or Georgia?)

2010-05-04 Thread John Hays
A few thoughts: 1. Print publishing is a dying proposition. No printed directory can keep current with changing information. 2. Some repeater coordinators have been resistant or slow to accept D- STAR and provide coordination, so many D-STAR repeaters are not coordinated and don't make it

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] US D-STAR band planning and directories (Was: No DSTAR in South Carolina or Georgia?)

2010-05-04 Thread bruce mallon
NO the problem is we don't need More repeater pairs and we don't need D-Star/echo-link on the 146.400 -146.600 or 147.400 - 147.600 pair already used by analog stations.   D-Star and echo-link will fit nicely into 145.500 - 145.700 with no movement of other stations.   Lets make use of THAT

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] US D-STAR band planning and directories (Was: No DSTAR in South Carolina or Georgia?)

2010-05-04 Thread John Hays
What logic says that when you have limited spectrum for repeaters that you are allocating some to simplex, when there is spectrum where repeaters are not allowed and is being under used? On May 4, 2010, at 4:58 PM, bruce mallon wrote: NO the problem is we don't need More repeater pairs

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] US D-STAR band planning and directories (Was: No DSTAR in South Carolina or Georgia?)

2010-05-04 Thread John Hays
Bruce, What 300 khz? 145.5-145.7 Mhz., per your earlier email, is 200 khz. They are in the simplex part of the band. If you are talking about Echolink simplex nodes or DVAR Hot Spot or DVAP simplex operation, you can make an argument that they can live in that spectrum. However, we are

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] US D-STAR band planning and directories (Was: No DSTAR in South Carolina or Georgia?)

2010-05-04 Thread Jay Maynard
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 04:58:00PM -0700, bruce mallon wrote: D-Star and echo-link will fit nicely into 145.500 - 145.700 with no movement of other stations. EchoLink? Sure. D-Star? Not repeaters. Repeaters can't operate there. Lets make use of THAT band before you want thousands of stations

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] US D-STAR band planning and directories (Was: No DSTAR in South Carolina or Georgia?)

2010-05-04 Thread Woodrick, Ed
Might want to check the FCC rules before you put repeaters into 145.5 -145.7. It's not legal. (b) A repeater may receive and retransmit only on the 10 m and shorter wavelength frequency bands except the 28.0-29.5 MHz, 50.0-51.0 MHz, 144.0-144.5 MHz, 145.5-146.0 MHz, 222.00-222.15 MHz,

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] US D-STAR band planning and directories (Was: No DSTAR in South Carolina or Georgia?)

2010-05-04 Thread bruce mallon
146.52 is what on the ARRL band plan back almost 40 years ?   Now lets get the repeater groups to clean up what is already being used for repeaters move D-star to a EXPERIMENTAL band and if Echo-like is really repeaters make they coordinate like all other repeaters .. there wise they go to