[2009-05-20 08:35] Uriel urie...@gmail.com
I suggested a while ago to merge wmii@ and dwm@ into hackers@, both
lists are rather low level, and there is much overlap, and such a
single list would be more fitting for new minor side projects and for
'offtopic' discussion.
+1
Right now when
[ pretty off topic ]
Three days off-line and now ... *eek* ... 75 new messages.
It was interesting to read all those opinions and comments. I think it
was even fun, because I'm not directly affected ... not anymore. I
already found what I was looking for, more than a year ago. dwm then
was
[2009-04-25 19:47] Matthias-Christian Ott o...@mirix.org
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 07:18:45PM +0200, pmarin wrote:
Low power computers...Why not a netbook?
Because netbooks and laptops aren't ergonomic.
Plug external input and output devices to them. ;-)
meillo
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[2009-04-20 16:29] Antoni Grzymala ant...@chopin.edu.pl
Lorenzo Bolla dixit (2009-04-20, 15:07):
ifconfig and dhclient?
Those two don't really deal with the wireless layer of 802.11 (though
ifconfig does in some OS'es to an extent).
He probably meant: iwconfig and dhclient
[2009-04-18 12:46] Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com
2009/4/18 Jan Blazek appoli...@gmail.com
Scytrin dai Kinthra wrote:
I use a combination of xss and xkeygrab to lock my screen but allow
the UI to update in the background so I can see incoming emails and
chats.
This is something I
[2009-03-10 22:57] Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com
He's probably talking about the front page, screenshot here:
http://bayimg.com/image/caombaabd.jpg
correct.
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[2009-03-11 12:47] Uriel urie...@gmail.com
Well, that should be corrected when the frontpage is converted to a
proper werc feed,
That might be right. I don't know about the internals ... I only made
a suggestion from the user's POV.
that looks like this: http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/
I
[2009-03-11 16:10] yy yiyu@gmail.com
2009/3/11 markus schnalke mei...@marmaro.de:
/mm/dd is not worst but still worse than -mm-dd.
The latter one is a standard, and it is usable in filenames.
Think about it.
I'm thinking about it, but really, if slashes
I suggest to change the date format (on the entry page) into
-mm-dd. The current format is confusing because you never know if
it is dd/mm/ or mm/dd/. To solve this problem and to provide a
sane date format that works well with ``computer logic'', the ISO 8601
was created.
Please
)) {
/* version information */
fprintf(stderr, redscr-%s, (c) 2006-2007 Anselm R. Garbe, 2007 markus schnalke\n, VERSION);
exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
}
if ((argc == 2)) {
/* set color */
/* printf(arg: %s, argv[1]); */
screencolor[0] = '#';
screencolor[1] = '\0';
strcat(screencolor, argv
[2009-02-18 22:31] Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com
2009/2/18 Matthias-Christian Ott o...@mirix.org:
I think the only way is dropping HTML and CSS altogether and going
with something new.
It's still good enough ... so it is likely to stay for many more
years. :-(
meillo
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[2009-02-19 08:51] Szabolcs Nagy nszabo...@gmail.com
don't try to fix the browser, you can't
it leads to a chaos where each website has different versions for each
browser, display media, resolution,..
there is no way to do nice in all browsers page (or pixel correct
presentation)
I
[2008-08-26 09:35] markus schnalke mei...@marmaro.de
two weeks ago I was at the CCC-Stuttgart LightningTalk event and did
a presentation about suckless.org and dwm.
You find the (English) slides on:
http://marmaro.de/docs
The deep link is:
http://marmaro.de/Documents
[2009-02-14 14:02] Yoshi Rokuko yoshi.rok...@yokuts.org
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 10:24:04AM +0100, markus schnalke wrote:
http://www.marmaro.de/docs/suckless-lightningtalk_64k.mp3 (6.5m)
hat mir gefallen - nice talk.
thanks
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[2009-02-10 06:51] Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com
Please mark mailing-list etiquette posts as off-topic, so my mail
client and filter them appropriately. Thanks.
Can you please tell me how to do so.
I know people who use offtopic ... /offtopic. Do you mean that?
meillo
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[2009-02-03 22:33] Marcin Cieslak sa...@system.pl
I don't like this approach. I have always preferred software that fails
fast. As soon as something is wrong - just abort with debugging information
what went wrong.
I see some issues with the approach described in the paper. It assumes that
[2009-01-20 13:42] hiro 23h...@googlemail.com
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Yoshi Rokuko yoshi.rok...@yokuts.org
wrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:37:58AM +0100, hiro wrote:
Still, dwm somehow seems very much not unix alike for me.
what do you mean, or what would be a more nix'isch
Hoi,
have you ever heard of crash-only software?
Might this be a concept to improve dwm? Is it possible at all, to make
dwm a crash-only software?
This is just a thought, because I stumpled upon the concept and think
it's a quite interesting approach.
See:
[2009-01-14 13:36] Neale Pickett ne...@woozle.org
But if you're enamoured of the idea, here's something you can do from
your .xinitrc to get this behavior. This will work better with dwm 5.4
than with a prior version.
while ! dwm; do true; done
That was not what I intended with my
[2009-01-10 14:10] Matthias-Christian Ott o...@mirix.org
Christian Garbs wrote:
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 06:05:35PM -0500, voltaic wrote:
(this might conflict with
highlighting windows, don't know as I don't use it).
No, it doesn't conflict with highlighting, because you could highlight
[2009-01-08 18:05] voltaic volt...@gmail.com
I agree with Matthias. The purpose of a border is to separate one
client from another.
My view is: the (highlighted) border is to indicate the active client.
(Normal borders are only placeholders for the highlighted border.)
meillo
[2008-12-27 11:48] Ian Daniher it.dani...@gmail.com
What's wrong with midnight commander? It's an oldy but a goody. Two pane
file interface, has a boatload of features. Is it the bloat of these other
features that you're trying to avoid?
This too, but worst is its usability. The keystrokes
[2008-11-04 11:04] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lets say kopete_events.sh:
#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/wmu 1 `/usr/bin/xwininfo -int -name Kopete|egrep Window\ id:|cut
-d' ' -f4`
More general:
#!/bin/sh
if [ $# -ne 1 ] ; then
echo usage: $0 windowtitle;
exit 1;
fi
[2008-11-04 17:11] Premysl Hruby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, I've added you script (with markus schnalke's generalization) to the
wmu's repo. thx.
thanks.
btw: call me `meillo` :-)
meillo
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[2008-09-07 21:24] Filippo Erik Negroni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Code that sucks less is code that compiles for many years to come, and
strives for maximum portability, within reason.
... or is it code that's easy to understand and therefor easy to
maintain?
Pike and Kernighan call it:
Hoi community,
two weeks ago I was at the CCC-Stuttgart LightningTalk event and did
a presentation about suckless.org and dwm.
You find the (English) slides on:
http://marmaro.de/docs
The deep link is:
http://marmaro.de/Documents/suckless_print.pdf
We also had audio recording. (I talked in
[2008-08-26 12:57] Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You don't intend to upgrade your branch to a more recent dwm version?
I don't need all the new features ;-P
As I told you (some time ago), I stripped everything I don't need from
the source. That lead to a even more simple code base, which
[2008-08-26 14:31] Enno Gottox Boland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would be pleased if you could add dwm-gtx to dwms children.
I understand your wish, but I havent heard of someone (else than you)
using it.
There are lots of branches/forks/patchsets/children of dwm, but in my
eyes, only `xmonad' and
[2008-08-26 18:11] pancake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have been thinking these days on writing something suckless for
managing my mail. I don't know if any of you is happy with any mail
client, but I do not feel comfortable with any of them.
you're not the only one ;-)
This is why I am thinking
[2008-08-26 21:01] markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I currently read a (free available) book about `MH' and `nmh'. I will
post a link tomorrow.
I already found the bookmark on this computer:
http://rand-mh.sourceforge.net/book/
meillo
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[2008-08-19 16:31] pancake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I sent a mail few time ago about the gallery system I wrote in a boring
night for managing my pictures, and now I come back with some new ideas
and stuff...
In the current version i have just replaced the imagemagick dependency
in pro to use
Hoi,
just if you didn't already know:
The repo (public wiki) is not pushable with Mercurial version 0.9.1
which is in Debian etch.
I installed the backport (v1.0.1), and it worked fine then.
Finally I noted that as a bug in the page about the wiki.
meillo
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[2008-07-31 16:41] pancake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'll try to add some more precisse descriptions on the points :)
and please use more easy words and less irony
That makes the document clearer and so more useful.
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 14:14 +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
Mixed tab/spaces++
Hoi community,
the website ( http://www.suckless.org/dwm ) contains the following
words:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
Please discuss about removing, or altering that.
The reason is, that I met people who thought, that the
[2008-07-29 09:44] Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2008/7/29 markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
Well, I removed this statement, now. It was on purpose 2 years ago,
though. It wasn't intended
[2008-07-29 11:35] Szabolcs Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7/29/08, Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/7/29 markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking
stupid
questions.
Well, I removed this statement, now
[2008-07-29 14:21] Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe I need to make some releases very soon, to stop this thread ;)
I'm sorry it became a flamewar, that was not intended :-(
It's sad to read some of the things I read in this thread. It's sad,
but it's how it is.
Seems like the
[2008-07-29 10:22] Bill Puschmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh, and relax about the flamewar. Elitists love that sort of thing.
So, I'm not an elitist!
... but I'll continue using dwm though.
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Jason Thigpen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
while true
do
echo `date +%m/%d %H%M`
sleep 60
done | dwm
(you only need to pole date once a minute for as accurate as you are
getting)
but then you probably have to wait one minute when you want to
shutdown (Alt-q) dwm.
(At least it was like
Szabolcs Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
here is a time vs sloc plot (instead of revision vs sloc)
I like that one.
Maybe we should have x-axis descriptions for time, revision and
releases ... but maybe thats overkill then ;-)
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Hoi community,
I updated my dwm-sloccount-graph creating script.
First, it was not possible to run it on another machine with
mercurial-1.0, which has no 'strip' command :-?
However, I used `update -r rev -C' instead, which seems to be better
anyway.
Second, I added display of the dwm release
Charlie Kester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd also vote for the red one. It's a classic.
I ordered the red one now.
But there are more up-to-date books on compilers, and there might
be more easily digested introductions. It's hard to give good
advice without knowing more about your
Hoi Community,
I want to buy a book about compilers and heard of the Dragon Books
which should be the right choice.
Because I dont want to afford more than one, I have to choose:
- Principles of Compiler Design (1977, the Green Dragon Book), by
Alfred V. Aho and Jeffrey D. Ullman
- Compilers:
Szabolcs Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/14/08, markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
gd is _not_ a small lib
but even tough much smaller than ImageMagick.
also gd only does very simple resampling (!= image resize)
I'm not an expert, but gd provides image resize and image resample
Ross Mohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. What debugger do you use for C programming?
2. What debugger do you use for Curses C programming?
printf()
:-)
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Premysl Hruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is realization of Gottox's proposal discuted on IRC today.
It handles tags not as Bool [], but as bit-array saved in int.
I read, that bit-arrays are not very portable between different
architectures. (It was in The practice of programming, I think)
Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe that things will settle with 5.0, because I already
focus more on st.
was waiting for that to come true for quite a long time. :-)
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Daniel Bainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/5/12 Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I agree, but still the SLOC is a related indicator if the
functionality has been implemented in a decent way at its level.
If a file editor (vim) consists of 200.000 SLOC, something is
wrong
Antoni Grzymala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Martin Sander dixit (2008-04-24, 01:27):
Which, in my case, is mapped to the control-key
so you're probably an emacs user ;-9
vi friends would map escape to caps lock instead
... however, you'll increase your working speed
(if you dont work on foreign
Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Though,
I'm not totally sure if the sort -u breaks anything with wmii.
This needs to be tested first.
What is the problem with `sort | uniq'.
Okay, it may be a bit slower, but beside that ...?
If it is more portable than `sort -u', so why don't use it?
David Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:50 AM, markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sounds interesting!
Would you make the modified source (or a patch) available, please.
Here's a patch against aterm-1.0.0 obtainable from [...]
thx
meillo
Hoi dwm lovers,
long time I stayed on version 4.4.1 without having problems, but today
I updated dwm-meillo to the current tip (rev1163).
The patch is much smaller now, mainly because monocle is mainstream
and I managed toggleview in an easier way.
You find the patch and my config.h on:
Ralph E. Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When only one client is in a workspace (or tagset, or view),
it could be borderless.
In the default geom, or in bottomstack, the border is unnecessary.
In my favorite monocle, any border would remind that something is
below.
No.
The border says:
David Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing I did was modified aterm so that it changes the background
colour based upon using a very simple hash of the directory name as an
index into a colour table. After about a year I now know automatically
which colour various very common directories
Ritesh Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I too like the idea of abstracting the Xinerama code away from the main dwm
codebase.
Good decition in my eyes!
meillo
Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
monocle will be in mainstream dwm tonight.
Wee, yeah!
*SCNR*
meillo
I think the problem is not interesting anymore, but I want to share
some ideas though.
Jeremy O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, a potential problem I see already is the desktop being covered by all
the tiled windows that they'd want to open. One window open, desktop is
gone.
You could
Sylvain Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And for dwm, I don't know what would be the cost to build directly the
X11 packets or to recode the XCB lib straight on Linux syscalls.
This will make dwm unportable and we should implement the different
ways to communicate with X11 (socket
Taras Ivashchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
apt-cache search osd | grep xosd-bin
why not use `apt-cache show xosd-bin' instead :-)
meillo
Enno Gottox Boland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use pre for displaying a block segment of code. Markdown.pl uses
precode. I really don't know if I should use that too.
I read, that it should be precode, because of the semantic behind
it. pre just stands for preformated text, code normally does
Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Both, type(1) and which(1) are not POSIX compliant and might be absent.
Though I'd use which(1) if you don't want to go the way used by
dmenu_path for instance.
Thanks to you and the others who answered.
I will use `which' now.
meillo
Hoi community,
I have a question that is a bit off topic, but I think you are the
right ones to ask.
I'm writing some shell scripts these days, and a common task is to
check if a particular program is installed (for example `convert').
How is this check done in a sane and portable way?
The
Rickard Gustafsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a pretty nasty solution if you ask me. I would have used:
if [ ! -f `which convert` ]
okay, thanks for that (and the '|| exit' in the other mail), but
that's just cosmetic.
The main question is:
Use `which' or `type' or what else?
Robert Figura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just put my current work in progress version online:
http://spuerwerk.dyndns.org/~rfigura/dwm/
Your comments are welcome.
Screenshots desired! :-)
meillo
Think it would be nice to see dwm handling some utf8 characters in the
status line.
A user-based screenshot gallery wouldn't be bad either. To show the
different looks dwm can have.
Maybe just another wiki page?
meillo
Enno Gottox Boland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/10/19, pancake [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Why not keep this list in the suckless wiki?
Done. http://www.suckless.org/wiki/dwm/patches/0_general
What is the difference between offsite patches and external repos
/ forks?
What distinguishes between
Is there a list of all the derived/customized dwm versions?
http://prog.marmaro.de/dwm-meillo/
meillo
http://www.suckless.org/shots/dwm-20070927.png
I just wanted to tell you to update the link to this new shot on the site
... but then I thought, that I can do it on my own ... so I did.
Is this okay? Is this wanted?
... only to be sure.
btw:
I find my screen-statusbar on the screenshot
Jeremy O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your terminal colors are amazing...
thanks
Would you mind sharing your .XResources or whatever file you are using
to set your colorscheme? I would like to imitate it if you wouldn't
mind :-D
I saw you found them.
For everyone else, here they are:
Hoi developers,
if I understood the code right, then you should change this comment to
say more clearly what these lines are for.
I needed some minutes to figure out what the comment meant ...
Okay, the new comment isn't perfect either ... maybe something in between
should be chosen.
markus
Hoi folks,
after a long time (since 3.5) I updated my patches to the current tip.
As you perhaps remember/know, I habe only 2 tags between I toggle. I use them
as workspaces. Clients are matched to only one tag.
So my Workflow is somehow different from normal dwm tagging style, but it is
Hi arg,
http://www.suckless.org/cgi-bin/man/man2html?query=dwm
shows version 3.5
would be a good idea to update it.
A better idea would be to automate it.
markus
Szabolcs Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ps: you don't have to tell us your life story when you have a problem
oh, I loved to read about his experiences ...
he even included this hint for you to skip this first paragraph -- very
polite, I think
markus
Julian Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm quite comfortable with my terminus choice but I'm curious...
Which fonts are you guys using?
I use Terminus too
David Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|strip could be run via an own target `debug' or so, that is not called
|by `all'
Ah, although I guess you mean the other way around: you don't want
to do the strip you'd normally do when doing a debugging build.
yes, of course ;-)
Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a) You want make dwm simplier ...
wasn't the old way to KISS?
customizing should be done by patching source code
right?
yes, a switch like suggested would surely be nice
... but perhaps simple would be better!?
just to think about
Meillo r e t
arg wrote:
I like untiled. The reason why I changed floating is that it
clashes with the datatype, however tile() and untile() seem
straight-forward. I go for it.
... and tile/untile really shows that dwm is about tiling :_)
Oliver Heins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
when clicking on a link to e.g. a pdf-file in konqueror, a temporary
window showing the status of the file transfer pops up. Unfortunately,
this window is not floating but is put in the main area whilst konqueror
is shifted to the stacking area, which is
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