Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-30 Thread Maxim Vuets
2008/8/29, Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I like simplicity. I like simple applications. But few LOCs don't mean that application is simple. It means only that it has few LOCs. I only argue that few LOCs is a good indicator of simplicty, not the only one, though. I see. To be simple

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-30 Thread yy
2008/8/30 Maxim Vuets [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/8/29, yy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just to show you (and all the people who come here asking for workspaces from time to time) I have attached a config.h with a workspaces implementation. It hasn't been tested very much, but I think it works. Now you

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-30 Thread Chris Monson
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Maxim Vuets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/29, Matthias-Christian Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Apache httpd with threads and mod_*.so, PAM... So every You are using Apache? Shame on you ;). Seriously Apache is definitively not suckless. (: propose something

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-30 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 8/30/08, Chris Monson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Maxim Vuets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/29, Matthias-Christian Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You are using Apache? Shame on you ;). Seriously Apache is definitively not suckless. (: propose something less

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-30 Thread Filippo Erik Negroni
If you are looking for a non-app-server http server, look for 'publicfile'. 2008/8/30 Antoni Grzymala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris Monson dixit (2008-08-30, 13:55): You are using Apache? Shame on you ;). Seriously Apache is definitively not suckless. (: propose something less sucker,

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-29 Thread Maxim Vuets
2008/8/28, Alexander Polakov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What you do? Press Alt-o which brings my IM-client to me. Then press alt-o to hide it back. That is not what I meant. Such title bars bring a possibility to manage windows w/o keyboard (; 2 paragraphs before you said mouse is not important.

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-29 Thread Maxim Vuets
2008/8/29, Donald Chai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that mouse is not really important for dwm status bar. So we can neglect of such feedback. I can not agree we you that shared libraries and some ABI is so bad. But agree that it is too heavy for such program as dwm. It is useless here. On the

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-29 Thread Maxim Vuets
2008/8/29, Matthias-Christian Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you want to seperate dwm and status bar you have to come up with a practical protocol. Definitely! (: Assumed that dwm still manages the tags and status bar is just responsible for displaying the data, I propose (not perfect, just to

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-29 Thread Maxim Vuets
2008/8/29, yy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You don't need any changes in dwm.c to achieve this functionality. You just have to define your keys your way. e.g. (not tested) : ... This way you could chose workspaces with q, w,... You could also write a little function to set this parameters and call

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-29 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
Maxim Vuets wrote: 2008/8/29, Donald Chai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that mouse is not really important for dwm status bar. So we can neglect of such feedback. I can not agree we you that shared libraries and some ABI is so bad. But agree that it is too heavy for such program as dwm. It

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-29 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2008/8/28 Maxim Vuets [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/8/28, Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The reason for the built-in status bar is simplicity. In theory it would be possible to externalize it, but then you would end up with adding some kind of command interface to dwm to aim the mouse interaction

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-29 Thread David Whittington
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that mouse is not really important for dwm status bar. So we can neglect of such feedback. I use the mouse quite often in dwm, so for me it is. It feels more natural to me to right click a tag, than performing

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-29 Thread yy
Just to show you (and all the people who come here asking for workspaces from time to time) I have attached a config.h with a workspaces implementation. It hasn't been tested very much, but I think it works. Now you can change workspace with Mod+Tab (and Mod+Shift+Tab) or with the mouse wheel on

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-28 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi there, 2008/8/27 Maxim Vuets [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So. What I want to know is that why dwm uses built-in status bar, when even such heavy WM as metacity does not has such one? The problems I see: dwm somehow needs to pass current tags status. Not a problem in fact. And not a requirement, is

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-28 Thread Alexander Polakov
The most time you spend on developing something. But from time to time you want to check irc and mail, maybe serf smth. And all the time you want to see your im client. What you do? Press Alt-o which brings my IM-client to me. Then press alt-o to hide it back. Such title bars bring a possibility

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-28 Thread Donald Chai
On Aug 28, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Maxim Vuets wrote: The reason for the built-in status bar is simplicity. In theory it would be possible to externalize it, but then you would end up with adding some kind of command interface to dwm to aim the mouse interaction from the bar. In the end

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-28 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
Maxim Vuets wrote: 2008/8/28, Matthias-Christian Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't propose to get rid of tags, no! I propose to introduce workspaces in addition to tags. It will be just sets which keep current layout and selected tags. That's all! +1 That makes sense to me, but where

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-28 Thread yy
2008/8/28 Maxim Vuets [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that mouse is not really important for dwm status bar. Well, I think it is. I use dwm exclusively with the mouse without any changes to dwm.c (have a look at the customisation/customfunctions section in the wiki to see my config.h) Why you

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-27 Thread Filippo Erik Negroni
2008/8/27 Maxim Vuets [EMAIL PROTECTED] Next, tags. Really cool idea for sure. But let's be honest: how much of us use them as tags, not as workspaces? I think not much. That was the one and only feature that set dwm apart from all other WMs. Desktops? You can write a patch, and if enough

Re: [dwm] dwm: request to discuss

2008-08-27 Thread Alexander Polakov
Yes, I think it would be nice if the status bar could be written as a plugin: whenever something changed, dwm communicates it as a message (text) on stdout. You can write a patch, and if enough people like it (or Anselm), then it will make into the main stream